Oregon Republicans facing arrest

[Ors Might]

You can disagree with a person respectfully. When you actively silence them in the Senate, literally just to shut them up, when the governor actively insults the opposition party wholesale, when punitive laws with no purpose other than to penalize the opposition for wrongthink are proposed and sometimes even passed.

This is treating your opposition like shit.

And your party doesn’t insult the other side and try to penalize the opposition? You have any proof of your claim?

Why are you okay with the idea of the Democrats being on a similar level as the Republican Party?

[Galloism]

And your party doesn’t insult the other side and try to penalize the opposition? You have any proof of your claim?

Why are you okay with the idea of the Democrats being on a similar level as the Republican Party?

Not enough damn liquor in this whole damn state.........

[Telconi]

You can disagree with a person respectfully. When you actively silence them in the Senate, literally just to shut them up, when the governor actively insults the opposition party wholesale, when punitive laws with no purpose other than to penalize the opposition for wrongthink are proposed and sometimes even passed.

This is treating your opposition like shit.

And your party doesn’t insult the other side and try to penalize the opposition? You have any proof of your claim?

Nope, never.

[Kowani]

Online, very little. You can show them the repercussions of their positions, but that’s about it.

You could argue that showing them that could lead to debate or at the very least is unlikely to take place outside of debate.

Very true.

[San Lumen]

And your party doesn’t insult the other side and try to penalize the opposition? You have any proof of your claim?

Nope, never.

If you can’t prove it don’t make claims like that

[Telconi]

Nope, never.

If you can’t prove it don’t make claims like that

Or else what?

[Proctopeo]

If you can’t prove it don’t make claims like that

Or else what?

San Lumen will pretend rural people don't exist again

[Telconi]

Or else what?

San Lumen will pretend rural people don't exist again

Oh no, better spot out my wad of chewing tobacco before I choke on it, I'm shaking in my cowboy boots so hard.

[Ors Might]

Or else what?

San Lumen will pretend rural people don't exist again

Let’s be fair here. He knows perfectly well that rural people exist.

He just doesn’t care.

[San Lumen]

Or else what?

San Lumen will pretend rural people don't exist again

Never said that

[Telconi]

San Lumen will pretend rural people don't exist again

Never said that

Nobody said you did.

[Tobleste]

He may have made a typo but tbh, it sure looks like Democrats v Republicans is a case of asylum staff v patients from the outside.

Demeaning tens of millions of people has never convinced them of your politics.

Doesn't mean it's wrong. It's not my full time job to pander to people I disagree with. The political actions of the Republican party seems crazy to me (and milions of other people) so I'll say as much. I'm not going to censor myself in case I hurt their feelings. Especially given the way they don't return the favour.

Besides, I've seen how discussions with certain segments of Americas political spectrum go. No one is going to convince them of anything.

[Tobleste]

San Lumen will pretend rural people don't exist again

Never said that

Nonsense. You disagree with their random notion that rural people get a veto on politics so you obviously hate them. Though by the same token, the posters you're talking to can either agree to a legislature that represents gender, race and class divides or they hate people of other genders, races and/or classes.

[San Lumen]

Never said that

Nonsense. You disagree with their random notion that rural people get a veto on politics so you obviously hate them. Though by the same token, the posters you're talking to can either agree to a legislature that represents gender, race and class divides or they hate people of other genders, races and/or classes.

Yes but i don't hate rural people or think or pretend they dont exist

[Neutraligon]

Nonsense. You disagree with their random notion that rural people get a veto on politics so you obviously hate them. Though by the same token, the posters you're talking to can either agree to a legislature that represents gender, race and class divides or they hate people of other genders, races and/or classes.

Yes but i don't hate rural people or think or pretend they dont exist

No, instead you insist that since they are the minority, and almost so much of a minority that their representatives are functionally useless, their needs should be ignored.

[Rojava Free State]

How is this thread still alive?

[Neutraligon]

How is this thread still alive?

Mostly by talking about a topic related to the Oregon Republicans, mainly why they walked out rather then show up and vote and the voting and political issues related to that.

[Rojava Free State]

How is this thread still alive?

Mostly by talking about a topic related to the Oregon Republicans, mainly why they walked out rather then show up and vote and the voting and political issues related to that.

But that happened weeks ago. They're still discussing it?

[Tobleste]

Yes but i don't hate rural people or think or pretend they dont exist

No, instead you insist that since they are the minority, and almost so much of a minority that their representatives are functionally useless, their needs should be ignored.

There's a difference between saying the approval of a particular minority of voters is needed for anything to be done in government and saying their needs should be ignored.

[Ors Might]

No, instead you insist that since they are the minority, and almost so much of a minority that their representatives are functionally useless, their needs should be ignored.

There's a difference between saying the approval of a particular minority of voters is needed for anything to be done in government and saying their needs should be ignored.

When nothing is being suggested to make sure their needs aren’t ignored, there functionally isn’t a difference.

Since democracy clearly isn’t working to make sure their needs are met, what would you suggest?

[Neutraligon]

No, instead you insist that since they are the minority, and almost so much of a minority that their representatives are functionally useless, their needs should be ignored.

There's a difference between saying the approval of a particular minority of voters is needed for anything to be done in government and saying their needs should be ignored.

And Sn Lumen has repeatedly brought up the point that Republicans only need to lose 2 seats in Oregon to make it so that they will not even have enough people to prevent a quorum, at which point...they can and will be completely ignored as they functionally have no political power.

[Northern Davincia]

Demeaning tens of millions of people has never convinced them of your politics.

Doesn't mean it's wrong. It's not my full time job to pander to people I disagree with. The political actions of the Republican party seems crazy to me (and milions of other people) so I'll say as much. I'm not going to censor myself in case I hurt their feelings. Especially given the way they don't return the favour.

Besides, I've seen how discussions with certain segments of Americas political spectrum go. No one is going to convince them of anything.

It's wrong because you wholly misunderstand a person's reasoning for voting Republican. I do so because one-party rule in New York has proven utterly disastrous. Still, you entrench your opposition and shut down any room for cooperation when insults are your first resort.

[Kowani]

Doesn't mean it's wrong. It's not my full time job to pander to people I disagree with. The political actions of the Republican party seems crazy to me (and milions of other people) so I'll say as much. I'm not going to censor myself in case I hurt their feelings. Especially given the way they don't return the favour.

Besides, I've seen how discussions with certain segments of Americas political spectrum go. No one is going to convince them of anything.

It's wrong because you wholly misunderstand a person's reasoning for voting Republican. I do so because one-party rule in New York has proven utterly disastrous. Still, you entrench your opposition and shut down any room for cooperation when insults are your first resort.

And yet it’s still better than 1 party Republican rule since…Nixon, really.

[Neutraligon]

It's wrong because you wholly misunderstand a person's reasoning for voting Republican. I do so because one-party rule in New York has proven utterly disastrous. Still, you entrench your opposition and shut down any room for cooperation when insults are your first resort.

And yet it’s still better than 1 party Republican rule since…Nixon, really.

One party rule sucks.

[San Lumen]

And yet it’s still better than 1 party Republican rule since…Nixon, really.

One party rule sucks.

And people cast ballots for that in Oregon and Wyoming