Oregon Republicans facing arrest

[Ors Might]

Correct me it I’m wrong but only one Republican did that.

If you cooperate with someone does a thing as part of what you're doing, and don't criticise them, or disclaim your relationship with them, or rebuke them, or even state any kind of disagreement with them, you're tacitly approving of the thing.

You expect them to cease their protest because one guy was an idiot?

Do you hold the same standards for all protests?

[Gun Manufacturers]

The election result was honored.

Now tell us why you hate honoring referendums.

No it wasn’t. Republicans were giving the finger to the rest of the state. They could have just voted no

Never said that

How did they not honor the results of the election. Did they lose their elections, and take office anyways?

They were elected to represent their districts. If their districts didn't want the bill passed, the legislators should use any legal means to accomplish that.

[Vassenor]

No it wasn’t. Republicans were giving the finger to the rest of the state. They could have just voted no

Never said that

How did they not honor the results of the election. Did they lose their elections, and take office anyways?

They were elected to represent their districts. If their districts didn't want the bill passed, the legislators should use any legal means to accomplish that.

And as per the constitution this was not a legal means. Hence the provision to compel legislators to attend session.

[Washington Resistance Army]

They set no precedent. This is already a well established political maneuver.

No, threatening to murder police officers isn't.

Fighting the law is an American pastime.

[Gun Manufacturers]

I want everybody defending the Republicans that didn't show up to work to not show up to work. Then use whatever half baked arguments you've come up with for why that's totally an okay thing on your boss when they try firing you. It's a political stunt just to see how much We the People will let them get away with and still pay for their flights, mortgages and meals.

I work for the USPS. I have a co-worker that has refused to show up for work for 2 YEARS. She's only now getting fired. Meanwhile, I've missed out on 2 years worth of holiday pay, participating in the thrift savings plan, the better health insurance, etc.

[Gun Manufacturers]

How did they not honor the results of the election. Did they lose their elections, and take office anyways?

They were elected to represent their districts. If their districts didn't want the bill passed, the legislators should use any legal means to accomplish that.

And as per the constitution this was not a legal means. Hence the provision to compel legislators to attend session.

If it wasn't a legal means, why are these politicians not facing criminal charges?

[Proctopeo]

And as per the constitution this was not a legal means. Hence the provision to compel legislators to attend session.

If it wasn't a legal means, why are these politicians not facing criminal charges?

Tbh it's probably because the Democrats realized that digging themselves deeper won't benefit them in any conceivable way
you know
for once

[San Lumen]

No it wasn’t. Republicans were giving the finger to the rest of the state. They could have just voted no

Never said that

How did they not honor the results of the election. Did they lose their elections, and take office anyways?

They were elected to represent their districts. If their districts didn't want the bill passed, the legislators should use any legal means to accomplish that.

Or they could simply vote no and not impede the business of the legislature or give the finger to the rest of the state. By that logic why not simply refuse to show up at all and prevent the Governor from getting any nominations or the legislature from passing anything including the budget.

[Paddy O Fernature]

How did they not honor the results of the election. Did they lose their elections, and take office anyways?

They were elected to represent their districts. If their districts didn't want the bill passed, the legislators should use any legal means to accomplish that.

Or they could simply vote no and not impede the business of the legislature a give the finger to the rest of the state. By that logic why not simply refuse to show up at all and prevent the Governor from getting any nominations or the legislature from passing anything including the budget.

Remember folks, it's only bad when not Democrats do it!

[Tornado Queendom]

Or they could simply vote no and not impede the business of the legislature a give the finger to the rest of the state. By that logic why not simply refuse to show up at all and prevent the Governor from getting any nominations or the legislature from passing anything including the budget.

Remember folks, it's only bad when not Democrats do it!

OR you could just split from Oregon, as with Virginia and West Virginia.

[Salandriagado]

If you cooperate with someone does a thing as part of what you're doing, and don't criticise them, or disclaim your relationship with them, or rebuke them, or even state any kind of disagreement with them, you're tacitly approving of the thing.

You expect them to cease their protest because one guy was an idiot?

Do you hold the same standards for all protests?

No, I'd expect them to criticize him, call him out, dissassociate themselves from him, begin proceedings to have him kicked out of office, hand him over to the police, etc.

And, yes, I expect protestors who witness other protestors committing serious crimes to do the same.

[Paddy O Fernature]

Remember folks, it's only bad when not Democrats do it!

OR you could just split from Oregon, as with Virginia and West Virginia.

If anyone is going to split from the union, I would prefer it to be California and not anyone else.

[San Lumen]

Or they could simply vote no and not impede the business of the legislature a give the finger to the rest of the state. By that logic why not simply refuse to show up at all and prevent the Governor from getting any nominations or the legislature from passing anything including the budget.

Remember folks, it's only bad when not Democrats do it!

Neither side should do it

[Washington Resistance Army]

Remember folks, it's only bad when not Democrats do it!

OR you could just split from Oregon, as with Virginia and West Virginia.

Tbh that would be best for both Oregon and Washington.

[San Lumen]

OR you could just split from Oregon, as with Virginia and West Virginia.

Tbh that would be best for both Oregon and Washington.

Then get a referendum on the ballot to do that but dont be shocked when it fails as it would in Oregon

[Washington Resistance Army]

Tbh that would be best for both Oregon and Washington.

Then get a referendum on the ballot to do that but dont be shocked when it fails as it would in Oregon

Ideally it would be done without letting the masses have any say.

[San Lumen]

Then get a referendum on the ballot to do that but dont be shocked when it fails as it would in Oregon

Ideally it would be done without letting the masses have any say.

That;'s not how a referendum like that would work. Its a vote by the entire state

[Washington Resistance Army]

Ideally it would be done without letting the masses have any say.

That;'s not how a referendum like that would work. Its a vote by the entire state

Hence the word "ideally".

[Bear Stearns]

There are several state borders that are frankly illogical/impractical, and it would make sense to change some of them.

Any state with major, similarly-sized metros on opposite ends of the state should be split so that the new states can better serve the local area.

For instance:

Florida (split right above Tampa)
California (split midway between LA and SF)
Texas (split so that Dallas, Austin, and Houston are all in separate states)
Pennsylvania (Philly and Pittsburgh would be in separate states)
New York (Upstate vs NYC)
Ohio (Cleveland vs Cincy)

And so on.

[San Lumen]

That;'s not how a referendum like that would work. Its a vote by the entire state

Hence the word "ideally".

And it will will stay ideal as it would probably be unconstitutional for it not to be voted on by the entire state

[Scomagia]

How did they not honor the results of the election. Did they lose their elections, and take office anyways?

They were elected to represent their districts. If their districts didn't want the bill passed, the legislators should use any legal means to accomplish that.

And as per the constitution this was not a legal means. Hence the provision to compel legislators to attend session.

Incorrect. It is legal per the Oregon Constitution. The Oregon Constitution just also happens to make it legal for OSP to forcibly return quorum breakers.

[Scomagia]

How did they not honor the results of the election. Did they lose their elections, and take office anyways?

They were elected to represent their districts. If their districts didn't want the bill passed, the legislators should use any legal means to accomplish that.

Or they could simply vote no and not impede the business of the legislature or give the finger to the rest of the state. By that logic why not simply refuse to show up at all and prevent the Governor from getting any nominations or the legislature from passing anything including the budget.

This has already been explained to you. Work on your reading comprehension so you can stop repeating things to which answers have been given.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

What’s the latest on this story? I haven’t heard much.

[San Lumen]

There are several state borders that are frankly illogical/impractical, and it would make sense to change some of them.

Any state with major, similarly-sized metros on opposite ends of the state should be split so that the new states can better serve the local area.

For instance:

Florida (split right above Tampa)
California (split midway between LA and SF)
Texas (split so that Dallas, Austin, and Houston are all in separate states)
Pennsylvania (Philly and Pittsburgh would be in separate states)
New York (Upstate vs NYC)
Ohio (Cleveland vs Cincy)

And so on.

if people want it they can petition the state legislature for a referendum. The New York one will never happen as New York is not a state where residents can initiate a referendum. Only the legislature can do it and it must be voted on in two consecutive sessions.

[Scomagia]

What’s the latest on this story? I haven’t heard much.

The quorum was restored after the fleeing senators were promised it wouldn't be voted on. So, pretty much exactly what I said would happen. Once again the handwringers worrying about impending civil conflict have been shown to be chicken littles.