Oregon Republicans facing arrest

[Scomagia]

Or perhaps Ifreann is simply posting ignorant stupidity, hrmmm...

There was no reason to personally insult. This was borderline, but given your history, *** 3-day ban for Flaming ***. This applies to you, the player, and not just this nation.




As a note to all, let's get back to the actual topic of the thread. If threadjacks continue, it will be locked.

That's obviously not a personal attack on Telconi's part but ok.

Anyway, on topic, the bill is still bad, the Dems are still shifty for trying to bypass referendum, and the Republicans are still right for quorum busting.

[Gormwood]

How much would you like to bet the same people praising the Republicans as heroes right now denounced and jeered at Wisconsin Democrats when they took off to avoid voting on the Republican Union Buster bill?

[Scomagia]

How much would you like to bet the same people praising the Republicans as heroes right now denounced and jeered at Wisconsin Democrats when they took off to avoid voting on the Republican Union Buster bill?

I didn't. I support unions.

[The Two Jerseys]

The elections with a ballot question where the people voted overwhelmingly against giving illegals drivers licenses?

Why should the referendum be respected but not the result of the statewide and state legislature election

The election result was honored.

Now tell us why you hate honoring referendums.

[Fartsniffage]

How much would you like to bet the same people praising the Republicans as heroes right now denounced and jeered at Wisconsin Democrats when they took off to avoid voting on the Republican Union Buster bill?

I didn't. I support unions.

You dirty commie.....

[San Lumen]

Why should the referendum be respected but not the result of the statewide and state legislature election

The election result was honored.

Now tell us why you hate honoring referendums.

No it wasn’t. Republicans were giving the finger to the rest of the state. They could have just voted no

Never said that

[NeoOasis]

Why should the referendum be respected but not the result of the statewide and state legislature election

The election result was honored.

Now tell us why you hate honoring referendums.

And would the Republicans honor a referendum if the state voted to implement the new enviromental standards? Fact remains the Republicans ran away from their jobs, and have set a precident for other parties to pull an identical feat in the future.

[Scomagia]

The election result was honored.

Now tell us why you hate honoring referendums.

And would the Republicans honor a referendum if the state voted to implement the new enviromental standards? Fact remains the Republicans ran away from their jobs, and have set a precident for other parties to pull an identical feat in the future.

They set no precedent. This is already a well established political maneuver.

[San Lumen]

And would the Republicans honor a referendum if the state voted to implement the new enviromental standards? Fact remains the Republicans ran away from their jobs, and have set a precident for other parties to pull an identical feat in the future.

They set no precedent. This is already a well established political maneuver.

and it shouldn't be done by either party. We have elections for a reason

[Scomagia]

They set no precedent. This is already a well established political maneuver.

and it shouldn't be done by either party. We have elections for a reason

It should be done by all parties when the need arises.

[San Lumen]

and it shouldn't be done by either party. We have elections for a reason

It should be done by all parties when the need arises.

No it should not. Simply vote no and respect the outcome of an election

[The Two Jerseys]

The election result was honored.

Now tell us why you hate honoring referendums.

No it wasn’t. Republicans were giving the finger to the rest of the state. They could have just voted no

Never said that

Did the Republicans attempt to invalidate the election results, or prevent the new legislators from taking their seats, or overthrow the government?

No, they didn't. The election results were honored. You calling a legitimate parliamentary tactic "not honoring the election results" doesn't actually make it so.

[The Two Jerseys]

The election result was honored.

Now tell us why you hate honoring referendums.

And would the Republicans honor a referendum if the state voted to implement the new enviromental standards? Fact remains the Republicans ran away from their jobs, and have set a precident for other parties to pull an identical feat in the future.

We'll never know, the Democrats are hell-bent on making sure that said environmental regulations never face a referendum.

[San Lumen]

No it wasn’t. Republicans were giving the finger to the rest of the state. They could have just voted no

Never said that

Did the Republicans attempt to invalidate the election results, or prevent the new legislators from taking their seats, or overthrow the government?

No, they didn't. The election results were honored. You calling a legitimate parliamentary tactic "not honoring the election results" doesn't actually make it so.

No they did not but they did side with armed militia groups who do and did not condemn them.

No they were not honored they effectively gave the middle finger to the rest of the state. Its not a legitimate tactic. They should simply vote no on the bill and then work to get more people elected to repeal it but why do that? How about not showing up at all next session and then the party that won control can get nothing done including no appointments from the governor

[Scomagia]

It should be done by all parties when the need arises.

No it should not. Simply vote no and respect the outcome of an election

It isn't "not respecting an election". It's not respecting the bill itself and taking lawful means to kill it.

All parties should break quorum when necessary.

[The Two Jerseys]

Did the Republicans attempt to invalidate the election results, or prevent the new legislators from taking their seats, or overthrow the government?

No, they didn't. The election results were honored. You calling a legitimate parliamentary tactic "not honoring the election results" doesn't actually make it so.

No they did not but they did side with armed militia groups who do and did not condemn them.

No they were not honored they effectively gave the middle finger to the rest of the state. Its not a legitimate tactic. They should simply vote no on the bill and then work to get more people elected to repeal it but why do that? How about not showing up at all next session and then the party that won control can get nothing done including no appointments from the governor

And the Democrats ignoring the previous referendum result isn't giving the finger to the rest of the state?

[San Lumen]

No it should not. Simply vote no and respect the outcome of an election

It isn't "not respecting an election". It's not respecting the bill itself and taking lawful means to kill it.

All parties should break quorum when necessary.

How about next session they simply dont show up at all and the majority party can't get anything at all done?

[San Lumen]

No they did not but they did side with armed militia groups who do and did not condemn them.

No they were not honored they effectively gave the middle finger to the rest of the state. Its not a legitimate tactic. They should simply vote no on the bill and then work to get more people elected to repeal it but why do that? How about not showing up at all next session and then the party that won control can get nothing done including no appointments from the governor

And the Democrats ignoring the previous referendum result isn't giving the finger to the rest of the state?

what referendum are they ignoring?

[The Two Jerseys]

And the Democrats ignoring the previous referendum result isn't giving the finger to the rest of the state?

what referendum are they ignoring?

The one from 2014 where an overwhelming majority of Oregonians decided that they don't want illegal immigrants to get drivers licenses.

[San Lumen]

what referendum are they ignoring?

The one from 2014 where an overwhelming majority of Oregonians decided that they don't want illegal immigrants to get drivers licenses.

And did they pass a law to do that?

[The Two Jerseys]

The one from 2014 where an overwhelming majority of Oregonians decided that they don't want illegal immigrants to get drivers licenses.

And did they pass a law to do that?

They passed the bill. It was referred to referendum. Voters shot it down.

Now Democrats call everything they want to ram down the people's throats an "emergency bill" so they can't hold a referendum, because the Democrats honor election results.

[San Lumen]

And did they pass a law to do that?

They passed the bill. It was referred to referendum. Voters shot it down.

Now Democrats call everything they want to ram down the people's throats an "emergency bill" so they can't hold a referendum, because the Democrats honor election results.

And Republicans did? Again I ask why not simply refuse to show up at all next session that way the Governor and State legislature can get nothing done at all.

[The Two Jerseys]

They passed the bill. It was referred to referendum. Voters shot it down.

Now Democrats call everything they want to ram down the people's throats an "emergency bill" so they can't hold a referendum, because the Democrats honor election results.

And Republicans did?

And we've arrived at the crux of the problem: you're a partisan hack who thinks the Democrats can do no wrong, even when it was their dirty attempts to ram the bill through the Senate that caused the Republicans to walk out in the first place.

Again I ask why not simply refuse to show up at all next session that way the Governor and State legislature can get nothing done at all.

At this point I would 100% support the GOP legislators not showing up for the next term. If the Democrats won't play fair, then the GOP absolutely should throw a monkey wrench in the works and bring the whole thing grinding to a halt.

[San Lumen]

And Republicans did?

And we've arrived at the crux of the problem: you're a partisan hack who thinks the Democrats can do no wrong, even when it was their dirty attempts to ram the bill through the Senate that caused the Republicans to walk out in the first place.

Again I ask why not simply refuse to show up at all next session that way the Governor and State legislature can get nothing done at all.

At this point I would 100% support the GOP legislators not showing up for the next term. If the Democrats won't play fair, then the GOP absolutely should throw a monkey wrench in the works and bring the whole thing grinding to a halt.

And then the entire state is hurt by not having a budget, and state agencies can't function but those roads will get paved by magic and other government agencies will run just fine. They can just have acting heads.

Email your legislator if they are a Republican and tell them to emulate this and kindly share their response

[The Two Jerseys]

And we've arrived at the crux of the problem: you're a partisan hack who thinks the Democrats can do no wrong, even when it was their dirty attempts to ram the bill through the Senate that caused the Republicans to walk out in the first place.

At this point I would 100% support the GOP legislators not showing up for the next term. If the Democrats won't play fair, then the GOP absolutely should throw a monkey wrench in the works and bring the whole thing grinding to a halt.

And then the entire state is hurt by not having a budget, and state agencies can't function but those roads will get paved by magic and other government agencies will run just fine. They can just have acting heads.

Email your legislator if they are a Republican and tell them to emulate this and kindly share their response

Well that's just too fucking bad. Maybe the Oregon Democrats should try not being shitty human beings and respect the democratic process.