Oregon Republicans facing arrest

[Rojava Free State]

There has to be a way to deescalate the situation. I can't believe there is literally no compromise or even postponement of this law being passed that could bring republicans back

[Ors Might]

If the militias were to begin waging war against the capital, it would be a long and bloody conflict. They have the means to do some serious damage to the government of Oregon and its infrastructure, and the national guard would likely take heavy losses. San Lumen shouldn't be like "by all means do it." Trust me, it wouldn't be a five minute or three hour or four day or two week or seven month conflict. It would probably be years, like bleeding Kansas

I take back my statement then. That's the last thing we need is a repeat of bleeding Kansas

You ever heard of the Oklahoma city incident?

Yes im fairly certain I know what you referring too.

Have you ever heard of guerrilla warfare?


Hence why Oregeon Dems should try to deescalate this tomfoolery, ideally by making concessions and agreeing to let the public have its say. Could’ve avoided all of this.

Yes I have.

Republicans dont seem to want to engage and seem intent on letting the session expire and the state goes without a budget.

Then you should know that conflicts like this can be fucking devastating.

Wouldn’t be in this mess if the Dems didn’t declare it an emergency bill. I don’t like the Republican party as a whole but I do have a certain respect for the Republicans here. They’re representing their constituents to the best of their ability and doing what they can to protect them. That’s admirable.

[San Lumen]

I take back my statement then. That's the last thing we need is a repeat of bleeding Kansas
Yes im fairly certain I know what you referring too.

Yes I have.

Republicans dont seem to want to engage and seem intent on letting the session expire and the state goes without a budget.

Then you should know that conflicts like this can be fucking devastating.

Wouldn’t be in this mess if the Dems didn’t declare it an emergency bill. I don’t like the Republican party as a whole but I do have a certain respect for the Republicans here. They’re representing their constituents to the best of their ability and doing what they can to protect them. That’s admirable.

No their actions are not admirable. They are awol from their jobs. That's not representing. Its very possible the state goes without a budget at the end of the month and that will hurt the entire state.

[Hammer Britannia]

Personally, as an ex-Washingtoner, I like seeing the state burn. So, IDK what happens long-term.

[Ors Might]

Then you should know that conflicts like this can be fucking devastating.

Wouldn’t be in this mess if the Dems didn’t declare it an emergency bill. I don’t like the Republican party as a whole but I do have a certain respect for the Republicans here. They’re representing their constituents to the best of their ability and doing what they can to protect them. That’s admirable.

No their actions are not admirable. They are awol from their jobs. That's not representing. Its very possible the state goes without a budget at the end of the month and that will hurt the entire state.

They are representing though. They’re representing the interests of the ones that elected them. Taking on a considerable amount of risk upon themselves to do so, might I add. And if this is such a big deal, then I suppose the Oregon Dems should start representing their voters and make concessions.

[Tornado Queendom]

There has to be a way to deescalate the situation. I can't believe there is literally no compromise or even postponement of this law being passed that could bring republicans back

Here's my idea

Get rid of the Climate Change crap law, then watch as the republicans return.

[San Lumen]

No their actions are not admirable. They are awol from their jobs. That's not representing. Its very possible the state goes without a budget at the end of the month and that will hurt the entire state.

They are representing though. They’re representing the interests of the ones that elected them. Taking on a considerable amount of risk upon themselves to do so, might I add. And if this is such a big deal, then I suppose the Oregon Dems should start representing their voters and make concessions.

the proposed bill is what their constituents voted for. It takes full effect after 30 years. Is it really for hard the industry to adapt given three decades to do so?

[Ors Might]

There has to be a way to deescalate the situation. I can't believe there is literally no compromise or even postponement of this law being passed that could bring republicans back

Here's my idea

Get rid of the Climate Change crap law, then watch as the republicans return.

Honestly, just removing the bits that would harm Oregon’s logging industries would possibly do the trick. That’s what the Republicans used to justify their actions.

[Ors Might]

They are representing though. They’re representing the interests of the ones that elected them. Taking on a considerable amount of risk upon themselves to do so, might I add. And if this is such a big deal, then I suppose the Oregon Dems should start representing their voters and make concessions.

the proposed bill is what their constituents voted for. It takes full effect after 30 years. Is it really for hard the industry to adapt given three decades to do so?

Is it what they voted for? I was under the impression that the Dems weren’t letting it come to a public vote.

[San Lumen]

the proposed bill is what their constituents voted for. It takes full effect after 30 years. Is it really for hard the industry to adapt given three decades to do so?

Is it what they voted for? I was under the impression that the Dems weren’t letting it come to a public vote.

Is there a requirement that they have too?

[Ors Might]

Is it what they voted for? I was under the impression that the Dems weren’t letting it come to a public vote.

Is there a requirement that they have too?

It’d be cooler if they did. It would also give us an answer if the public did vote for this or not.

[Rojava Free State]

There has to be a way to deescalate the situation. I can't believe there is literally no compromise or even postponement of this law being passed that could bring republicans back

Here's my idea

Get rid of the Climate Change crap law, then watch as the republicans return.

That's not compromising

[Hakons]

Republicans don’t believe in free and fair elections and it’s sad they are willing to shutdown the government because the people had the audacity to not give them the majority.

I hope they do arrest them and the legislator who threatened state troopers is arrested and charged with inciting violence

This... doesn't have anything to do with elections, so you might want to stop copying and pasting the "Republicans don't believe in free and fair elections" line. They're also not shutting down the government, not even... close... at all... to doing that. Denying quorum in the senate chamber isn't shutting down the government lol. If we're going to talk about danger to democracy, let's talk about how you want your political opponents arrested.

[Hakons]

Anyway, denying quorum is a tactic used in state politics from time to time. Democrats did it a several years ago here in Indiana, when Republicans were pushing for "right to work" legislation that would make union dues voluntary. Running away from the Capitol instead of doing your job usually doesn't float well with voters, and state Republicans gained a supermajority the next election, thus preventing Democrats from even having the ability to deny quorum. Denying quorum can work temporarily, but it can make you lose even more in the future.

[San Lumen]

Anyway, denying quorum is a tactic used in state politics from time to time. Democrats did it a several years ago here in Indiana, when Republicans were pushing for "right to work" legislation that would make union dues voluntary. Running away from the Capitol instead of doing your job usually doesn't float well with voters, and state Republicans gained a supermajority the next election, thus preventing Democrats from even having the ability to deny quorum. Denying quorum can work temporarily, but it can make you lose even more in the future.

Hopefully republicans suffer that fate in the next election. Losing two more seats in the state senate would render them irrelevant.

[Telconi]

Anyway, denying quorum is a tactic used in state politics from time to time. Democrats did it a several years ago here in Indiana, when Republicans were pushing for "right to work" legislation that would make union dues voluntary. Running away from the Capitol instead of doing your job usually doesn't float well with voters, and state Republicans gained a supermajority the next election, thus preventing Democrats from even having the ability to deny quorum. Denying quorum can work temporarily, but it can make you lose even more in the future.

Hopefully republicans suffer that fate in the next election. Losing two more seats in the state senate would render them irrelevant.

I doubt it, there has been very little negative expression on this from Republicans.

[Proctopeo]

Anyway, denying quorum is a tactic used in state politics from time to time. Democrats did it a several years ago here in Indiana, when Republicans were pushing for "right to work" legislation that would make union dues voluntary. Running away from the Capitol instead of doing your job usually doesn't float well with voters, and state Republicans gained a supermajority the next election, thus preventing Democrats from even having the ability to deny quorum. Denying quorum can work temporarily, but it can make you lose even more in the future.

Hopefully republicans suffer that fate in the next election. Losing two more seats in the state senate would render them irrelevant.

Eh, it could happen, but there's no certainty.
Hell the Republicans might gain seats.

[Paddy O Fernature]

Hopefully republicans suffer that fate in the next election. Losing two more seats in the state senate would render them irrelevant.

I doubt it, there has been very little negative expression on this from Republicans.

Honestly, I've even seen mention of a fair bit of support for them doing this across several outlets already.

[Telconi]

I doubt it, there has been very little negative expression on this from Republicans.

Honestly, I've even seen mention of a fair bit of support for them doing this across several outlets already.

Indeed.

[San Lumen]

Hopefully republicans suffer that fate in the next election. Losing two more seats in the state senate would render them irrelevant.

Eh, it could happen, but there's no certainty.
Hell the Republicans might gain seats.

They could. Half the senate is up next year. Who knows what could happen.?

There will be a special election next year for one of the Salem districts though due to the incumbents passing earlier this year from cancer. The seat won’t be vacant until then though as the law requires a replacement of the same party to be appointed to the seat by the county commission

[Proctopeo]

They are representing though. They’re representing the interests of the ones that elected them. Taking on a considerable amount of risk upon themselves to do so, might I add. And if this is such a big deal, then I suppose the Oregon Dems should start representing their voters and make concessions.

Please. Republicans only care about money.

It would be nice if you'd actually contribute.

[Paddy O Fernature]

Honestly, I've even seen mention of a fair bit of support for them doing this across several outlets already.

Right Wing outlets.

"It's Right Wing if it doesn't agree with me!"

[San Carlos Islands]

Honestly, I've even seen mention of a fair bit of support for them doing this across several outlets already.

Right Wing outlets.

You haven't seen the pictures of Oregonians protesting outside the state capitol in FAVOR to the Senators?

[San Lumen]

Right Wing outlets.

You haven't seen the pictures of Oregonians protesting outside the state capitol in FAVOR to the Senators?

The authenticity is questionable

[The South Falls]

Support is definitely mixed. Though I feel there are more people who support this than don't.