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I vote for Tom
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I vote for the Opposition
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I'm not voting
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Total votes : 147
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Heloin
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Postby Heloin » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:01 pm

Purpelia wrote:So not only is he perfect politically but he is honest to a fault AND believes in following the rules? What exactly is his flaw here?

He was kind of a dick about one thing when he was like 19.
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Arcadian Union
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Postby Arcadian Union » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:01 pm

Tom still gets my vote.
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Postby North German Realm » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:02 pm

Purpelia wrote:So not only is he perfect politically but he is honest to a fault AND believes in following the rules? What exactly is his flaw here?

It's probably just that IM met someone who didn't let them in their study group in College and got mad about it.
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Postby Kannap » Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:12 pm

I feel like you've just asked me if I support Tom, told me stole a Hershey's bar at 5 years old, and then asked if I still support him.

The answer, of course, is Hell yeah I still vote for him.
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Postby Kannap » Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:13 pm

Heloin wrote:
Purpelia wrote:So not only is he perfect politically but he is honest to a fault AND believes in following the rules? What exactly is his flaw here?

He was kind of a dick about one thing when he was like 19.


Did you mean: every 19-year-old?
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Postby Purpelia » Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:51 pm

Heloin wrote:
Purpelia wrote:So not only is he perfect politically but he is honest to a fault AND believes in following the rules? What exactly is his flaw here?

He was kind of a dick about one thing when he was like 19.

No he wasn't. He obeyed the rules of the organization he belonged to and did his best to root out those that didn't. He exposed lairs and cheats and rule breakers. That is a good trait. Blind enforcement of rules is what you want in a person who holds positions of power.
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Heloin
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Postby Heloin » Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:59 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Heloin wrote:He was kind of a dick about one thing when he was like 19.

No he wasn't. He obeyed the rules of the organization he belonged to and did his best to root out those that didn't. He exposed lairs and cheats and rule breakers. That is a good trait. Blind enforcement of rules is what you want in a person who holds positions of power.

Why the hell am I on the defence? I think Tom is a stand up guy.
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Great Celestial China
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Postby Great Celestial China » Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:09 pm

Tom's still better than a racist bigot.

Being an ass who kicks people out of groups because they're not as good as him is not event the worst thing politicians can do, or have done.
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Postby Geneviev » Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:39 pm

I'd still vote for Tom. If he shares my political views, that would mean he changed since then, and there wouldn't be any problem.
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Infected Mushroom
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:13 pm

NSG is uncharacteristically kind towards Tom

Interesting

Not what I expected...
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:15 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:NSG is uncharacteristically kind towards Tom

Interesting

Not what I expected...

All he did was be a slight dick in college. Compared to watergate or anything Trump has done/been accused of its practically nothing
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Postby Geneviev » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:16 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:NSG is uncharacteristically kind towards Tom

Interesting

Not what I expected...

A lot of real politicians are worse than Tom.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:16 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:NSG is uncharacteristically kind towards Tom

Interesting

Not what I expected...

Lol how was it not what you expected?
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New Cabo Azul
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Postby New Cabo Azul » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:21 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:NSG is uncharacteristically kind towards Tom

Interesting

Not what I expected...

A lot of real politicians are worse than Tom.


Got to agree with you there.
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Geneviev
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Postby Geneviev » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:30 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:NSG is uncharacteristically kind towards Tom

Interesting

Not what I expected...

Lol how was it not what you expected?

That's what really surprises me here.
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Postby New Cabo Azul » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:33 pm

I mean, if Tom had assaulted someone or something, there would be less reason to vote for him. Like Geneviev said,

Geneviev wrote:I'd still vote for Tom. If he shares my political views, that would mean he changed since then, and there wouldn't be any problem.
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Postby Andsed » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:42 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:NSG is uncharacteristically kind towards Tom

Interesting

Not what I expected...

All you had Tom do basically amounted to being a bit of a douche when he was in college. That is not uncommon for college students. Seriously this "scandal" is not even that big of a scandal and if that is the biggest scandal in his past then that makes me want to vote for him more.
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Drongonia
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Postby Drongonia » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:45 pm

Tom was a dick back in College, much like I would say every other establishment politician. Of course he gets my vote.
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Arlenton
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Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby Arlenton » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:50 pm

I'd vote for Tom. That's not even bad lmao.
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Postby A Cornstar » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:55 pm

Yes but it's irrelevant, majority of my state votes the opposite of me.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:35 pm

Drongonia wrote:Tom was a dick back in College, much like I would say every other establishment politician. Of course he gets my vote.


Why can’t someone be nice in college and still be a politician?
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Postby Galloism » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:36 pm

I live in a safe state. It honestly doesn’t matter whether I vote for Tom or not.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:40 pm

Galloism wrote:I live in a safe state. It honestly doesn’t matter whether I vote for Tom or not.


What’s a safe state?
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Postby Galloism » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:42 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Galloism wrote:I live in a safe state. It honestly doesn’t matter whether I vote for Tom or not.


What’s a safe state?

Basically, all my state’s electors go to the winner of the popular vote in the state, which will vote for the republican candidate even if he was literally reanimated zombie Stalin.

If Tom is republican, he carries my state regardless of my vote. If he’s a democrat, he loses regardless of my vote.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:42 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Drongonia wrote:Tom was a dick back in College, much like I would say every other establishment politician. Of course he gets my vote.


Why can’t someone be nice in college and still be a politician?

What do you mean?
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