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I think..

..tis the very devil's work and should be banned
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19%
..it's delicious and ethical
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22%
..it's a lot of fuss over nothing
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..it's crucial to our development as human beings
26
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..does Hasselhoff eat it? That's really the key to making my mind up.
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..I want to click alternative polls
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..other
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Postby Christian Confederation » Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:02 am

Catsfern wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:Meat should be meat.

When I get a Berger I expect 100% beef, bacon I expect 100% beef or pork, Checken I expect 100% white meat, Turkey I expect 100% Turkey, for Deer i expect 100% white tail meat ETC, ETC!

Mixing things like onions or bread crumbs into a patty can actually add a lot of flavor

O that's fine, but soy Berger are evil and not a burger
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Postby Page » Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:05 am

Bombadil wrote:
God is an environmentalist. He takes this very seriously. He created this planet, he created the universe and he’s watching these Luciferians destroy this planet, destroy the animal kingdom, destroy the plant kingdom, change human DNA. Why? They want to change human DNA so that you can’t be born again. That’s where they’re going with this, to change the DNA of humans so it will be impossible for a human to be born again. They want to create a race of soulless creatures on this planet.


You know what I love about religious nuts? They believe in an omnipotent, omniscient God yet also think we're in such danger of the evildoers succeeding in their agenda. It's like, they're going to create a race of soulless creatures and God's just going to shake his fist and go 'Me dammit, the Luciferians outsmarted me, now my humans don't have souls anymore!'
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Postby Bombadil » Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:06 am

Christian Confederation wrote:
Catsfern wrote:Mixing things like onions or bread crumbs into a patty can actually add a lot of flavor

O that's fine, but soy Berger are evil and not a burger


It's 'berder', like hamberder.
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Postby Godular » Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:12 am

Bombadil wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:O that's fine, but soy Berger are evil and not a burger


It's 'berder', like hamberder.


I'd like one double bacon cheesehalberdier.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:32 am

Godular wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
It's 'berder', like hamberder.


I'd like one double bacon cheesehalberdier.

With or without Pikeles?
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Postby The Caleshan Valkyrie » Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:34 am

Neanderthaland wrote:
Godular wrote:
I'd like one double bacon cheesehalberdier.

With or without Pikeles?


Pilum on!
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Postby Bombadil » Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:40 am

The Caleshan Valkyrie wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:With or without Pikeles?


Pilum on!


Any mayomace on that?
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Postby Neanderthaland » Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:45 am

Bombadil wrote:
The Caleshan Valkyrie wrote:
Pilum on!


Any mayomace on that?

Just so you know: the Mus-petard has a bit of a kick.
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Postby The Free Joy State » Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:53 am

Neanderthaland wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
Any mayomace on that?

Just so you know: the Mus-petard has a bit of a kick.

What, no relash?

EDIT: And to answer the OP, I've previously been vegetarian. If there was a meat-free alternative that tasted good, I may eat it. But it wouldn't make an actual full-time alternative to me. But, as for being Satan's work... :blink:
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Postby Bombadil » Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:54 am

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Postby The Caleshan Valkyrie » Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:59 am

The Free Joy State wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Just so you know: the Mus-petard has a bit of a kick.

What, no relash?

EDIT: And to answer the OP, I've previously been vegetarian. If there was a meat-free alternative that tasted good, I may eat it. But it wouldn't make an actual full-time alternative to me. But, as for being Satan's work... :blink:


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Postby Cetacea » Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:00 am

I really dont see the point of bloody vegan meat. Really, if you want to have lentil and beetroot mash on a burger bun then all power to you, be proud of the earthy vegetable deliciousness. Why process to the point that it is unrecognisable, taste like something else and bleeds fake blood? As for vat grown meat - I fail to see how using animal cells to grow meat is any different than using animals to grow meat!

Nonetheless Lying is a sin, but I pray that the good Lord is not such a Meathead that He is going to condemn the soulless Luceferans to genetic damnation because of their dietary choices - its not like they're chowing down on rabbits or ostriches

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Postby The Caleshan Valkyrie » Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:04 am

Cetacea wrote:I really dont see the point of bloody vegan meat. Really, if you want to have lentil and beetroot mash on a burger bun then all power to you, be proud of the earthy vegetable deliciousness. Why process to the point that it is unrecognisable, taste like something else and bleeds fake blood? As for vat grown meat - I fail to see how using animal cells to grow meat is any different than using animals to grow meat!

Nonetheless Lying is a sin, but I pray that the good Lord is not such a Meathead that He is going to condemn the soulless Luceferans to genetic damnation because of their dietary choices - its not like they're chowing down on rabbits or ostriches


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Postby Europa Undivided » Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:12 am

Page wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
God is an environmentalist. He takes this very seriously. He created this planet, he created the universe and he’s watching these Luciferians destroy this planet, destroy the animal kingdom, destroy the plant kingdom, change human DNA. Why? They want to change human DNA so that you can’t be born again. That’s where they’re going with this, to change the DNA of humans so it will be impossible for a human to be born again. They want to create a race of soulless creatures on this planet.


You know what I love about religious nuts? They believe in an omnipotent, omniscient God yet also think we're in such danger of the evildoers succeeding in their agenda. It's like, they're going to create a race of soulless creatures and God's just going to shake his fist and go 'Me dammit, the Luciferians outsmarted me, now my humans don't have souls anymore!'

An omnipotent God can simply inject souls into clones and whatnot as well.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:30 am

While I want to claim it's the devil's work, it's not. Unless you think capitalism is evil, because this is capitalism in action. There is a market oppertunity and iz being taken.

Most of the reviews I have read mirror one of the OP's post. Vegetarians like it, meat eaters not so much. As the product develops I would think it would get better and appeal to more people.

As a card carrying Omnivore I doubt I would buy it, unless it had a picture of the Hoff on the label, then I would buy out the store. That said if I were served it at a dinner party I wouldnt throw up over it, though if I didnt like it, i would make fun of it.
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Postby Cetacea » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:32 am

Europa Undivided wrote:An omnipotent God can simply inject souls into clones and whatnot as well.


HAH! OP was right and now you'recaught you soulless Luceferian!!!

Gods assoul you wont be wontonly injecting with your malign meat clone!!!
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:36 am

Cetacea wrote:I really dont see the point of bloody vegan meat. Really, if you want to have lentil and beetroot mash on a burger bun then all power to you, be proud of the earthy vegetable deliciousness. Why process to the point that it is unrecognisable, taste like something else and bleeds fake blood? As for vat grown meat - I fail to see how using animal cells to grow meat is any different than using animals to grow meat!

Nonetheless Lying is a sin, but I pray that the good Lord is not such a Meathead that He is going to condemn the soulless Luceferans to genetic damnation because of their dietary choices - its not like they're chowing down on rabbits or ostriches

Ostrich burgers are pretty good. Nice gamey flavor add to a chicken like meat

I guess this makes me a satanist. Can you tell me where to get a red hooded robe with tassels?
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:51 am

I have eaten meatless burgers before. Not bad. It has even been better for me, actually. I don’t process meat, particularly red meat, very well. But I also don’t fuss over what other people decide to eat.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:35 am

Cetacea wrote:I really dont see the point of bloody vegan meat. Really, if you want to have lentil and beetroot mash on a burger bun then all power to you, be proud of the earthy vegetable deliciousness. Why process to the point that it is unrecognisable, taste like something else and bleeds fake blood? As for vat grown meat - I fail to see how using animal cells to grow meat is any different than using animals to grow meat!

Well one of those is an entire animal. An animal that has to be raised from birth. Fed, watered, given exercise, protected from disease. Possibly bred with other animals and helped through birthing the next generation. And finally slaughtered humanely. Whereas the other is just a vat of meat.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:37 am

Ethel mermania wrote:While I want to claim it's the devil's work, it's not. Unless you think capitalism is evil, because this is capitalism in action. There is a market oppertunity and iz being taken.

Most of the reviews I have read mirror one of the OP's post. Vegetarians like it, meat eaters not so much. As the product develops I would think it would get better and appeal to more people.

As a card carrying Omnivore I doubt I would buy it, unless it had a picture of the Hoff on the label, then I would buy out the store. That said if I were served it at a dinner party I wouldn't throw up over it, though if I didnt like it, i would make fun of it.


Eh, if this were the only thing that was served at a dinner party, as I have done at company dinners/luncheons where it's a vegan menu, I would just ask the wait staff for a menu or I would go and purchase my own food.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:38 am

Oh no I knew it was gonna come to this. Where's my shotgun?

The vegans are invading folks, it's day 1 of the year 0 and only the strong with survive the Veganing
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Postby The Holy Therns » Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:40 am

Ifreann wrote:
Cetacea wrote:I really dont see the point of bloody vegan meat. Really, if you want to have lentil and beetroot mash on a burger bun then all power to you, be proud of the earthy vegetable deliciousness. Why process to the point that it is unrecognisable, taste like something else and bleeds fake blood? As for vat grown meat - I fail to see how using animal cells to grow meat is any different than using animals to grow meat!

Well one of those is an entire animal. An animal that has to be raised from birth. Fed, watered, given exercise, protected from disease. Possibly bred with other animals and helped through birthing the next generation. And finally slaughtered humanely. Whereas the other is just a vat of meat.


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Postby Latin Islands » Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:46 am

Meatless burgers? Aren't veggie burgers enough? :roll:
Honestly I still prefer real meat in the meantime.

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The vegans are invading folks, it's day 1 of the year 0 and only the strong with survive the Veganing

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:47 am

Latin Islands wrote:Meatless burgers? Aren't veggie burgers enough? :roll:
Honestly I still prefer real meat in the meantime.

Rojava Free State wrote:Oh no I knew it was gonna come to this. Where's my shotgun?

The vegans are invading folks, it's day 1 of the year 0 and only the strong with survive the Veganing

Beware the VegangTM.


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Postby Bombadil » Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:50 am

Ifreann wrote:
Cetacea wrote:I really dont see the point of bloody vegan meat. Really, if you want to have lentil and beetroot mash on a burger bun then all power to you, be proud of the earthy vegetable deliciousness. Why process to the point that it is unrecognisable, taste like something else and bleeds fake blood? As for vat grown meat - I fail to see how using animal cells to grow meat is any different than using animals to grow meat!

Well one of those is an entire animal. An animal that has to be raised from birth. Fed, watered, given exercise, protected from disease. Possibly bred with other animals and helped through birthing the next generation. And finally slaughtered humanely. Whereas the other is just a vat of meat.


I had started writing a similar response but then I was like 'I just can't be bothered'.. I kind of assumed someone else would take on the mantle.

Still, food is such a weird thing, people will cry out at, say, eating puppies while chowing down on their hamburger, taste is honestly among the most acquired preference, or thinking there's no practical difference between livestock over vat grown meat while decrying genetics and abortion but happily buying food built on misery.

I've a friend on a diet I can't remember the name of but has a K in it that apparently means you just eat the fattiest meat available. I had to sit through a dinner listening to him talking to all these benefits and just..

The human relationship to food is bizarre.
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