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I think..

..tis the very devil's work and should be banned
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19%
..it's delicious and ethical
61
22%
..it's a lot of fuss over nothing
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30%
..it's crucial to our development as human beings
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9%
..does Hasselhoff eat it? That's really the key to making my mind up.
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9%
..I want to click alternative polls
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..other
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Total votes : 278

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Brittany Normandy Aquitaine
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Postby Brittany Normandy Aquitaine » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:36 am

pretty sure a burger requires meat to indeed be a burger.

Any form of meat, steak, pork, chicken, bacon, etc

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Postby The South Falls » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:36 am

Galactic Nation of Elementia wrote:I saw the title of this, and, I decided, that this is something I want to dive into.

I haven't read anything, what's the fuss?

You should probably read OP's, that's a good NSG lesson for you.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:36 am

TURTLESHROOM II wrote:
Ifreann wrote:We've been altering DNA for longer than we've known what DNA is.


Yes. Through the natural evolutionary and breeding processes that God intended and used Himself. EVERY crop and EVERY livestock are genetically modified organisms. Breeding desirable traits in plants and animals is entirely different from actually restructuring DNA itself.

It's the difference between living in a cave and building a stone house.

Gene therapy- that is, repairing defective genes to normal human function -is the ONLY acceptable means to edit DNA. To create DNA or, God forbid, create life is evil.

No it isn't.

Meatless burgers are just a very "primitive" example of this. While not directly tied to genetic engineering, the idea of spawning... whatever it is that's in meatless burgers is the danger.

They're made of soy and stuff, man. You might be thinking about vat grown meat.
Remember, it's not like we're taking livestock muscle tissue and using it to synthesize real meat in a sleazy way.

I'm not sure what you're talking about.

This thing is entirely artificial. I don't even know if it uses natural ingrediants at all...

Unnatural ingredients such as water.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:40 am

Skarten wrote:
Ifreann wrote:No, of course not. Just stop saying it's all bad before you've had it.


That's stupid. I tasted it, it's bad.

Right, but these things aren't all the same. It's not like you've had a banana and decided you don't like bananas.
By going "uhhh, but you didn't try EVERY SINGLE ONE!!!!" you're just being pedantic.

Of course I'm being pedantic, this is NSG.
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Postby Skarten » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:48 am

Ifreann wrote:
Skarten wrote:
That's stupid. I tasted it, it's bad.

Right, but these things aren't all the same. It's not like you've had a banana and decided you don't like bananas.
By going "uhhh, but you didn't try EVERY SINGLE ONE!!!!" you're just being pedantic.

Of course I'm being pedantic, this is NSG.


Fake burgers are expensive. I'm not going to keep trying one brand after the other just because i might maybe have a chance of liking it.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:52 am

The South Falls wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Screw soy patties. If you ever feel adventurous, try the beet patties.

Those are sorcery.


I would say that about portobello's. They are pretty good as burgers.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:54 am

I don't eat meatless burgers, because I don't think I've found one that tastes as nice as a meat burger. If I found one that tasted nicer than a meat burger, I might eat it.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:00 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:I don't eat meatless burgers, because I don't think I've found one that tastes as nice as a meat burger. If I found one that tasted nicer than a meat burger, I might eat it.


Burger King used to do a spicy bean burger that I would order as a preference when I was in there because it was amazing. They have sadly discontinued it. :(

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:14 am

The South Falls wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Screw soy patties. If you ever feel adventurous, try the beet patties.

Those are sorcery.


They do stain your fingers like a mo’fo but they’re not bad. Taste-wise.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:28 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:I don't eat meatless burgers, because I don't think I've found one that tastes as nice as a meat burger. If I found one that tasted nicer than a meat burger, I might eat it.


Burger King used to do a spicy bean burger that I would order as a preference when I was in there because it was amazing. They have sadly discontinued it. :(

In fairness, some homemade meatless burgers are amazing, but the shop-bought ones on the whole are gross.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:31 am

The South Falls wrote:
Galactic Nation of Elementia wrote:I saw the title of this, and, I decided, that this is something I want to dive into.

I haven't read anything, what's the fuss?

You should probably read OP's, that's a good NSG lesson for you.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:35 am

Skarten wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Right, but these things aren't all the same. It's not like you've had a banana and decided you don't like bananas.

Of course I'm being pedantic, this is NSG.


Fake burgers are expensive. I'm not going to keep trying one brand after the other just because i might maybe have a chance of liking it.

Fine, don't do that.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:56 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Skarten wrote:
Fake burgers are expensive. I'm not going to keep trying one brand after the other just because i might maybe have a chance of liking it.

Fine, don't do that.

Expensive? Not if you buy them at the Lidl or another discount supermarket. I've had them, they're tasty.


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Postby Tarsonis » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:00 pm

Bombadil wrote:When you go to your favorite fast food restaurant, you are going to be eating a fake hamburger. You’re going to go to the grocery store and buy a pound of fake hamburger or a fake steak, and you won’t know that it was grown in some big corporation’s laboratory. This is the nightmare world that they are taking us into. They’re changing God’s creation. Why? Because they want to be God....

God is an environmentalist. He takes this very seriously. He created this planet, he created the universe and he’s watching these Luciferians destroy this planet, destroy the animal kingdom, destroy the plant kingdom, change human DNA. Why? They want to change human DNA so that you can’t be born again. That’s where they’re going with this, to change the DNA of humans so it will be impossible for a human to be born again. They want to create a race of soulless creatures on this planet.


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Well quite..

I recently tried my first meatless burger the other week. It was fine, I'm not sure why it causes such a fuss. Even as a stock there's a load of hype.

Beyond Meat's post-IPO rally surges to more than 680% as short sellers lose hundreds of millions

I don't eat meat but I don't particularly care for something that tastes like meat but isn't meat. One of the many reasons I gave up meat was being bored of near every meal being 'meat' with some irrelevant vegetable on the plate just to pretend we're not just eating a slab of meat. I'd rather a little more variety and imagination in our food than replicating a piece of meat.

What I don't understand is the fuss over it all.

Have you tried it, do you like it, would you give up meat given there's the alternative or do you fear it's all merely a plot to separate us from the good lord above?


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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:12 pm

TURTLESHROOM II wrote:
Ifreann wrote:We've been altering DNA for longer than we've known what DNA is.


Yes. Through the natural evolutionary and breeding processes that God intended and used Himself. EVERY crop and EVERY livestock are genetically modified organisms. Breeding desirable traits in plants and animals is entirely different from actually restructuring DNA itself.

Gene therapy- that is, repairing defective genes to normal human function -is the ONLY acceptable means to edit DNA. To create DNA or, God forbid, create life is evil.

:eyebrow: Not sure if serious.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:25 pm

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Fine, don't do that.

Expensive? Not if you buy them at the Lidl or another discount supermarket. I've had them, they're tasty.

I am seeing about $10 for a lb. Which little more than twice as expensive as cow. How is it priced over there?
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:24 am

Northwest Slobovia wrote:
TURTLESHROOM II wrote:Yes. Through the natural evolutionary and breeding processes that God intended and used Himself. EVERY crop and EVERY livestock are genetically modified organisms. Breeding desirable traits in plants and animals is entirely different from actually restructuring DNA itself.

Gene therapy- that is, repairing defective genes to normal human function -is the ONLY acceptable means to edit DNA. To create DNA or, God forbid, create life is evil.

:eyebrow: Not sure if serious.

One can only hope that the 'shroom was jesting, but something tells me this is unfortunately not the case. He might very well be one of those people who also want Netflix (ha!) to cancel Good Omens.


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Postby Galactic Nation of Elementia » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:51 pm

The South Falls wrote:You should probably read OP's, that's a good NSG lesson for you.

Probably. But am I not lazy enough to do so?

Maybe. Maybe not. No clue by this point.

Actually laziness has overcome.
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:28 pm

im gonna grab the popcorn, eagerly waiting for the agropecuary lobby to shut this down
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:10 am

Great Minarchistan wrote:im gonna grab the popcorn, eagerly waiting for the agropecuary lobby to shut this down

Oh no, not the Brazilians!


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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:25 am

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Postby Great Minarchistan » Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:52 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Great Minarchistan wrote:im gonna grab the popcorn, eagerly waiting for the agropecuary lobby to shut this down

Oh no, not the Brazilians!

this but unironically, wait and see ;^)
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:10 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Great Minarchistan wrote:im gonna grab the popcorn, eagerly waiting for the agropecuary lobby to shut this down

Oh no, not the Brazilians!


How many is a brazilian?

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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:42 am

Bombadil wrote:When you go to your favorite fast food restaurant, you are going to be eating a fake hamburger. You’re going to go to the grocery store and buy a pound of fake hamburger or a fake steak, and you won’t know that it was grown in some big corporation’s laboratory. This is the nightmare world that they are taking us into. They’re changing God’s creation. Why? Because they want to be God....

God is an environmentalist. He takes this very seriously. He created this planet, he created the universe and he’s watching these Luciferians destroy this planet, destroy the animal kingdom, destroy the plant kingdom, change human DNA. Why? They want to change human DNA so that you can’t be born again. That’s where they’re going with this, to change the DNA of humans so it will be impossible for a human to be born again. They want to create a race of soulless creatures on this planet.


Link

Well quite..

I recently tried my first meatless burger the other week. It was fine, I'm not sure why it causes such a fuss. Even as a stock there's a load of hype.

Beyond Meat's post-IPO rally surges to more than 680% as short sellers lose hundreds of millions

I don't eat meat but I don't particularly care for something that tastes like meat but isn't meat. One of the many reasons I gave up meat was being bored of near every meal being 'meat' with some irrelevant vegetable on the plate just to pretend we're not just eating a slab of meat. I'd rather a little more variety and imagination in our food than replicating a piece of meat.

What I don't understand is the fuss over it all.

Have you tried it, do you like it, would you give up meat given there's the alternative or do you fear it's all merely a plot to separate us from the good lord above?


Don't fucking blame us for this one. If it ain't bleeding, we ain't eating. :twisted:
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Postby Bear Stearns » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:02 am

Latin Islands wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:I've eaten artificial beef before. It's actually pretty hard to tell the difference.

Are they expensive? They don't seem to be available anytime soon in my place.


They're more expensive than McDonald's sure, but they're usually comparable to an In n Out/Five Guys/Whattaburger type of place.
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