Creationism in Public Schools

[Farnhamia]

Darwin would be crying that this conversation is still going on in 2019.

After we got him calmed down during the "While You Were Away" briefing.

[Free Arabian Nation]

Darwin would be crying that this conversation is still going on in 2019.

Yup.

Uh Huh

[Ecradia]

Yup.

Uh Huh

Yeah.

[Aclion]

Our common ancestor was an ape though...

I've actually heard some people advocate we are monkeys for the same reason (old world monkeys and new world monkeys make this the case)

I mean if you talk to users of cladistic classification they'll tell you we're reptiles,

[Country of CityTowne]

Schools should only teach fact, and nothing else. A student is there to learn, not abandon knowledge.

[Bombadil]

Darwin would be crying that this conversation is still going on in 2019.

After we got him calmed down during the "While You Were Away" briefing.

"And this is the Internet, it allows for the storage and access of any and all information humanity has ever known in multiple media formats"
"My god, the entire world must be vastly intelligent due to this.."
"Amm.. want to see a cat jumping into a wall?"

[Rojava Free State]

I'm really annoyed by the suggestion we teach evolution and creationism side by side. I'm sorry do we teach that water freezes at 0 Celsius and 14 Celsius side by side? No, we do not, because one is scientific fact and one is bullshit. Creationism is bullshit. Carbon dating has proven that earth is older than 6000 years old and that evolution happened whereas the only evidence creationists have is an old manuscript written by a tribe of primitives with no understanding of even the scientific knowledge of their own time period. You are allowed to believe in creationism if you desire to, but if you stand up in class and challenge the teacher by saying evolution is wrong and the bible proves it, prepare to not only be laughed at but to literally become a meme, a fate your God cannot save you from.

Evolution, Science. Creationism, fantasy. Nothing more to it

[Country of CityTowne]

I'm really annoyed by the suggestion we teach evolution and creationism side by side. I'm sorry do we teach that water freezes at 0 Celsius and 14 Celsius side by side? No, we do not, because one is scientific fact and one is bullshit. Creationism is bullshit. Carbon dating has proven that earth is older than 6000 years old and that evolution happened whereas the only evidence creationists have is an old manuscript written by a tribe of primitives with no understanding of even the scientific knowledge of their own time period. You are allowed to believe in creationism if you desire to, but if you stand up in class and challenge the teacher by saying evolution is wrong and the bible proves it, prepare to not only be laughed at but to literally become a meme, a fate your God cannot save you from.

Evolution, Science. Creationism, fantasy. Nothing more to it

This.

[Catsfern]

there are now 6 nations that have voted in favor of only teaching creationism science, I know its probably just for the meme, but if any of the 6 mean that in earnest please tell me your reasoning.

[Hexapus]

You are allowed to believe in creationism if you desire to, but if you stand up in class and challenge the teacher by saying evolution is wrong and the bible proves it, prepare to not only be laughed at but to literally become a meme, a fate your God cannot save you from.

Actually, in some highly devout communities, it's the other way around. In those places, one can get run out of town for daring to question the Scriptures.

[The Free Joy State]

Creationism should never be taught in a science lesson.

It could be mentioned in religious education classes, as being a thing that some religious people believe (to children old enough to have already heard the actual scientific theories, and alongside the other religious theories of creation such as the watchmaker argument), but science classes should never ever be allowed to peddle such pseudoscience as potentially true to the minds of youngsters.

[Northwest Slobovia]

an old manuscript written by a tribe of primitives with no understanding of even the scientific knowledge of their own time period.

What, the parts that are Mesopotamian didn't get it right that the "dragon" bones they had were actually ornithischian dinosaurs?

[Major-Tom]

Public schools are officially secular and should not promote nor extol any religious ideas, especially pseudoscientific ones. End of story.

[Neanderthaland]

No. That's dumb.

[Catsfern]

No. That's dumb.

if the Neanderthals think its a bad idea then yeah its stupid.

[United Muscovite Nations]

I'd rather not have it in schools. It isn't science. If there were philosophy class, I suppose it could be discussed in terms of philosophical arguments for the universe being created, but I really don't think the state should be teaching philosophy to teenagers.

[New Ciencia]

Ah yes, you have to love our southern neighbours.

[Major-Tom]

Ah yes, you have to love our southern neighbours.

We're like the misbehaved and often drunk uncle who is seriously trying to get his shit together. He never does, but he's endearing enough that he is loved anyways.

[Korhal IVV]

No, evolution should be the only thing taught in school, creationism has absolutely no place in public education. If people want their kids to be taught creationism then they can send them to their local church or religious school to learn it. Creationism also doesn’t pass the lemon test so there’s no constitutional basis for it to be allowed to be taught in public schools.

And yet it is taught as if is thr absolute truth when it is just a theory.

[Bluelight-R006]

No, evolution should be the only thing taught in school, creationism has absolutely no place in public education. If people want their kids to be taught creationism then they can send them to their local church or religious school to learn it. Creationism also doesn’t pass the lemon test so there’s no constitutional basis for it to be allowed to be taught in public schools.

And yet it is taught as if is thr absolute truth when it is just a theory.

Exactly. It’s not sensible. Evolution has gathered more proof than Creationism ever did. Shouldn’t the more widely accepted and scientifically approved theory/fact be taught?

[Necroghastia]

No, evolution should be the only thing taught in school, creationism has absolutely no place in public education. If people want their kids to be taught creationism then they can send them to their local church or religious school to learn it. Creationism also doesn’t pass the lemon test so there’s no constitutional basis for it to be allowed to be taught in public schools.

And yet it is taught as if is thr absolute truth when it is just a theory.

The always-popular response of someone who has no idea of what the word "theory" means in a scientific context.

[Korhal IVV]

And yet it is taught as if is thr absolute truth when it is just a theory.

Exactly. It’s not sensible. Evolution has gathered more proof than Creationism ever did. Shouldn’t the more widely accepted and scientifically approved theory/fact be taught?

It may be taught... as a theory. It is far too often that the atheist treats evolution like some kind of Gospel message that is the absolute truth.

My biology teacher was Catholic, and she taught it, but only as a theory. It is not an absolutely established super fact, it is just more well supported.

[Neanderthaland]

Exactly. It’s not sensible. Evolution has gathered more proof than Creationism ever did. Shouldn’t the more widely accepted and scientifically approved theory/fact be taught?

It may be taught... as a theory. It is far too often that the atheist treats evolution like some kind of Gospel message that is the absolute truth.

My biology teacher was Catholic, and she taught it, but only as a theory. It is not an absolutely established super fact, it is just more well supported.

I suppose we should also teach atomic theory as a theory. And encourage kids to consider the possibility that Hiroshima just blew up coincidentally.

[Korhal IVV]

And yet it is taught as if is thr absolute truth when it is just a theory.

The always-popular response of someone who has no idea of what the word "theory" means in a scientific context.

“A scientific theory is an explanation of an aspect of the natural world that can be repeatedly tested and verified in accordance with the scientific method, using accepted protocols of observation, measurement, and evaluation of results. Where possible, theories are tested under controlled conditions in an experiment.”

Did you go back in the Telephone Booth 75 millions years to the past and confirmed it?

[Catsfern]

Exactly. It’s not sensible. Evolution has gathered more proof than Creationism ever did. Shouldn’t the more widely accepted and scientifically approved theory/fact be taught?

It may be taught... as a theory. It is far too often that the atheist treats evolution like some kind of Gospel message that is the absolute truth.

My biology teacher was Catholic, and she taught it, but only as a theory. It is not an absolutely established super fact, it is just more well supported.

im just going to leave this here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcM23M-CCog&t=294s