How do we manage the incel epidemic?

[Ethel mermania]

The GFE is 200€

Great mind think alike:

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I saw and corrected crediting you, my only bitch is you get it for 50€ less?

[The Blaatschapen]

True.

It's also worth note there's a low hanging fruit there - there's a cash reward for turning in tax evaders.

I did not know this.

I should check if this also applies over here. If I can get enough per day I can make a living by watching erotic displays on my computer.

[Vetalia]

*shrugs* At least they are having sex.

"You sir inserted your organ into this femoid and fathered a larva. If that stupid bitch went out with me at Prom in 2006 this would all be different."

[Ethel mermania]

Great mind think alike:

viewtopic.php?p=35821925#p35821925

The Incel community attacked recently cam performers, ratting them out to the IRS. They're hostile towards prostitution. They do want an actual relationship.

The girls are just trying to make a living, Some people are assholes. That said the girls should pay their taxes on their income

[Costa Fierro]

The OP is literally an incel himself who 100% believes every piece of the incel dogma. Not exactly a reliable person to assess that.

Ah, we've moved on from the "everyone that disagrees with me is a Nazi" to "everyone that disagrees with me is an incel".

Maybe you should actually read the OP?

[The Black Forrest]

Good luck having a successful, happy relationship without respect, honesty, caring or love. It won’t work.

lmao if you think that's how you have a successful relationship.

*shrugs* I am not an incel.

Neither am I.

*shrugs* At least they are having sex.

lmao

I am getting so much amusement out of this. The amount of naivety here is shocking.

Am I supposed to be offended?

If shaking your fist at the wind will make you happy, have it at.

At least you have Ostro supporting you.

[Galloism]

It's also worth note there's a low hanging fruit there - there's a cash reward for turning in tax evaders.

I did not know this.

I should check if this also applies over here. If I can get enough per day I can make a living by watching erotic displays on my computer.

If you were in the US, I would say that if you engage in that activity with continuity, regularity, and with the intent to make a profit, it's a business, and you could deduct your expenses.

[The Blaatschapen]

Great mind think alike:

viewtopic.php?p=35821925#p35821925

I saw and corrected crediting you, my only bitch is you get it for 50€ less?

I am cuter.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

*shrugs* At least they are having sex.

"You sir inserted your organ into this femoid and fathered a larva. If that stupid bitch went out with me at Prom in 2006 this would all be different."

Remind me not to read your posts while I’m trying to hydrate. The mess.

[Cekoviu]

The OP is literally an incel himself who 100% believes every piece of the incel dogma. Not exactly a reliable person to assess that.

Ah, we've moved on from the "everyone that disagrees with me is a Nazi" to "everyone that disagrees with me is an incel".

Maybe you should actually read the OP?

No, the OP is an actual unironic incel. Maybe you should read the posts that the OP made before acting all high-and-mighty.

[Costa Fierro]

Seeing as you’re some kind of relationship expert, why don’t you enlighten us all?

On?

[Cekoviu]

Seeing as you’re some kind of relationship expert, why don’t you enlighten us all?

On?

How to have a relationship correctly, I assume.

[The Black Forrest]

"You sir inserted your organ into this femoid and fathered a larva. If that stupid bitch went out with me at Prom in 2006 this would all be different."

Remind me not to read your posts while I’m trying to hydrate. The mess.

Got me with tea

[Liriena]

Asides from the biotruth thing, the problem with incels is that their dogma is a downwards spiral of increasingly vitriolic misconceptions about sex, sexuality and gender. The problem is that many of them think that lack of sex is a human rights violation and that they're entitled to sexually enslave women (and little girls) or genocide them, depending on what they're mad about that day. The problem is that they constantly dehumanize women and openly encourage each other to be sexually predatory, abusive, violent, even towards their own family. The problem is that they've taught each other all manner of self-serving, grade-A bullshit that exists solely to justify them either wallowing in misery, committing suicide or going out and committing mass murder.

And your solution is telling them "actually, demonizing women is good so long as its not for biological reasons".


I'm not giving you brownie points for making your misogyny sociological instead of biological. Acknowledging that incels are absolutely fucking idiots when it comes to women's biology is the bare minimum you can do if you're not actively trying to cover for their misogyny to turn this into yet another "women are to blame" screed.


You just spent the entirety of this thread desperately trying to argue that women are the real source of the incel problem, and bashing anyone who dared to focus on the dangers of incels' misogyny and who proposed ideas aimed at curtailing that misogyny.

1. A lack of sex probably is a human rights violation in sociological terms. A lack of social interaction is a human rights violation, we call it solitary confinement. While you're not entitled to have any specific person socialize with you, a general right to socialization is absolutely a human right. So it goes for sex. If a large number of people aren't having their needs met by a social system, that is evidence that system is oppressing them and needs to be reformed.

2. They think slavery and genocide because of the biotruth thing. Changing women is off the table because they don't believe women can change.

3. Criticism isn't demonization.

4. I've proposed solutions while dismissing feminist inspired gaslighting of them. It's not a solution to just gaslight incels and tell them their thoughts are wrong and everything they've noticed isn't real, or they're evil for noticing it. Explain what they've seen in more realistic terms.

1. Remember when you said incels were not "one of us"? It's beginning to look to me like you were a bit full of it, since you seem to kinda agree that their lack of sex makes them "oppressed".

2. And your response is literally "you are right to despise women and changing women is off the table". The only difference is that you want them to exclude women from socialization instead of killing or enslaving them... which is pretty curious coming from the person who just acknowledged that lack of socialization can be seen as a human rights violation. So what happens when men stop socializing with women? Do women get to start "whining" again? Or are you going to argue that it's their "just desserts"?

3. When you describe an entire gender as inherently having one pretty negative character trait (selfishness) and engaging in negative behavior related to it, and go out of your way to argue that they're "beyond help" and we must stop empathizing with them because of their gender, that's demonization.

4. "It's not a solution to just gaslight incels and tell them their thoughts are wrong and everything they've noticed isn't real"
Because you happen to agree with their thoughts and observations, save for a couple details.

Do you think their observations are irrefutable? Unfalsifiable? Are incels paragons of objectivity or something?

[The Union of the West]

Seeing as you’re some kind of relationship expert, why don’t you enlighten us all?

On?

How you have a successful relationship? You seem to be completely convinced that love and respect and caring and honesty don’t make a relationship successful, so what does?

[Costa Fierro]

Look kid, I understand why you can never have a happy relationship, to project that on 100's of millions of people is beyond asinine.

Oh I'm not projecting Ethel. Just stating the uncomfortable truth.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Remind me not to read your posts while I’m trying to hydrate. The mess.

Got me with tea

Worst part is that this is the second time in the thread that his posts have made sparkling water come out my nose.

[Liriena]

Ah, we've moved on from the "everyone that disagrees with me is a Nazi" to "everyone that disagrees with me is an incel".

Maybe you should actually read the OP?

No, the OP is an actual unironic incel. Maybe you should read the posts that the OP made before acting all high-and-mighty.

Well, say what you will about the OP, but he sure created a thread that made a bunch of users from the manosphere post their worst hot takes for posterity.

[Ethel mermania]

I saw and corrected crediting you, my only bitch is you get it for 50€ less?

I am cuter.

Itz true. Chicks dig sheepskin.

[Costa Fierro]

On?

How you have a successful relationship? You seem to be completely convinced that love and respect and caring and honesty don’t make a relationship successful, so what does?

Nothing can make it successful. That's the thing. People spend so much time and effort making trying to make something that cannot work, work, and wonder why it falls apart. Humans aren't compatible with long term monogamy.

[Aclion]

No agency is denied when you provide food to the starving. Somebody's agency is denied when you make somebody bang somebody else. If women chose to reproduce with an increasingly small group, that's their choice, just like it would be men's choice to reproduce with an increasingly small group. The individuals exercising their agency is the more important factor. The alternative, denying that agency, is tenuously close to sex slavery. At best, it's oppressive.

I'm not sure women are choosing to all bang that small group, or at least it's not a free and informed decision. There are plenty of guys that are deceiving women about what they're looking for in a relationship in order to use them for sex and the replacement of old social networks with dating apps makes it even easier to do this. I think that this widespread deceit, and the distortion of the "romantic market" for lack of a better word is making a lot of people feel unfulfilled in their relationship prospects, both with women feeling guys are all just using them for sex, and men feeling that they'll never be able find a romantic partner.

[Cekoviu]

I am cuter.

Itz true. Chicks dig sheepskin.

Can confirm, I get turned on when guys use classic condoms.

How you have a successful relationship? You seem to be completely convinced that love and respect and caring and honesty don’t make a relationship successful, so what does?

Nothing can make it successful. That's the thing. People spend so much time and effort making trying to make something that cannot work, work, and wonder why it falls apart. Humans aren't compatible with long term monogamy.

lol

[The Black Forrest]

Look kid, I understand why you can never have a happy relationship, to project that on 100's of millions of people is beyond asinine.

Oh I'm not projecting Ethel. Just stating the uncomfortable truth.

Ok Don Quixote. The wind mills are over there.

[Costa Fierro]

Ah, we've moved on from the "everyone that disagrees with me is a Nazi" to "everyone that disagrees with me is an incel".

Maybe you should actually read the OP?

No, the OP is an actual unironic incel. Maybe you should read the posts that the OP made before acting all high-and-mighty.

OP isn't an actual urionic incel. They wouldn't refer to incels as an "epidemic" if they were.

Just because they point out a few uncomfortable truths that completely dismantle your entire worldview doesn't make them an incel. It means you need to reexamine what exactly is wrong about your way of thinking.

[Galloism]

How you have a successful relationship? You seem to be completely convinced that love and respect and caring and honesty don’t make a relationship successful, so what does?

Nothing can make it successful. That's the thing. People spend so much time and effort making trying to make something that cannot work, work, and wonder why it falls apart. Humans aren't compatible with long term monogamy.