How do we manage the incel epidemic?

[Costa Fierro]

I'm not sure misanthropy is an ideology. Posadism certainly isn't widely accepted as such.

Literally how is Posadism not an ideology lol

It's literally "nuke the world". Not sure how that works out as being an ideology.

[The Blaatschapen]

It's slightly different. Trees get girlfriends.

Source: https://www.elitedaily.com/news/world/w ... sex/977768

My god, I can't imagine how having sex with a tree would be comfortable. All the rough bark and spines... urggh.

At least the tree always has a woody

[Cekoviu]

I mean, feminism is nominally the logical conclusion of those things.

Most married right wing folks would disagree. my wife would define herself as a feminist, she would never define me as one.

Whether that actually is the case can be argued, but according to feminists, it is a respectful and caring ideology as opposed to the non-empathetic anti-feminism.

[Bear Stearns]

Literally how is Posadism not an ideology lol

It's literally "nuke the world". Not sure how that works out as being an ideology.

it's a very logical position

A hypothetical Bear Stearns presidency would involve nuclear war

[Libertarians]

Aren't black females the most likely people to be single? Seems like a large dating pool to dip into there for white males that struggle to find partners. I'm usually not a guy that is open to the "OMG racism" explanation, but it feels like having racial preferences probably plays a role in this too.

[Cekoviu]

Literally how is Posadism not an ideology lol

It's literally "nuke the world". Not sure how that works out as being an ideology.

It is an opinion. It is shared by multiple people. It has a name and an agreed-upon basis. Therefore, it is an ideology.
This is not difficult.

My god, I can't imagine how having sex with a tree would be comfortable. All the rough bark and spines... urggh.

At least the tree always has a woody

I'm actually feeling pain imagining that right now.

[Ostroeuropa]

Most married right wing folks would disagree. my wife would define herself as a feminist, she would never define me as one.

Whether that actually is the case can be argued, but according to feminists, it is a respectful and caring ideology as opposed to the non-empathetic anti-feminism.

Sure.
https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10984

[Atovia Major]

You could in theory destroy the internet completely, and as a result ensure they stop spreading easily.

Yeah, that’s feasible.

Umm... that’s what Russia is trying to do. Did you know that it is trying to isolate servers from the West, therefore isolating and filtering its content? Yeah, for those in the States, I think we don’t want to turn into them.

[Ethel mermania]

I have a choice, I have 100 euro, I can go to the prostitutes.
And get some kosher food on the way too.

Now, some incels might be very poor and unable to afford it(the prostitute, maybe also the kosher food), but I sincerely doubt all would. Especially the incels who undergo plastic surgery.

Supposedly this is not what they want to do. They do strieve for an authentic girlfriend experience.

The GFE is 200€

Edit: dammit nijaed by the sheep pages ago, and he gets a better rate than I do..

[Costa Fierro]

Ok? Well. Don't know what to tell you as those are ingredients of a relationship.

lmao

If you seriously believe that, there's something seriously wrong.

A partners validation is not about creating self-esteem.

Yes it is.

If you don't have it; then you are most likely not in a relationship. Somebody who is a miserable mess all the time is....draining.

Plenty of miserable people in relationships. They're called "happily married".

[Cekoviu]

It's literally "nuke the world". Not sure how that works out as being an ideology.

it's a very logical position

A hypothetical Bear Stearns presidency would involve nuclear war

Not least because Bear Stearns is defunct and there would be nobody in charge of the office of the president.

[Vetalia]

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what about jewish incels[/quote]

I'll defer this one to a competent Rabbi.

[Nakena]

Whether that actually is the case can be argued, but according to feminists, it is a respectful and caring ideology as opposed to the non-empathetic anti-feminism.

Sure.
https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10984

Question is, how relevant are those things even to the Incels? What brings those people into those communities in the first place?

[The Blaatschapen]

Supposedly this is not what they want to do. They do strieve for an authentic girlfriend experience.

The GFE is 200€

Great mind think alike:

viewtopic.php?p=35821925#p35821925

[Costa Fierro]

It is an opinion. It is shared by multiple people. It has a name and an agreed-upon basis. Therefore, it is an ideology.

By that metric then, climate change is an ideology.

[Cekoviu]

If you don't have it; then you are most likely not in a relationship. Somebody who is a miserable mess all the time is....draining.

Plenty of miserable people in relationships. They're called "happily married".

This is a stupid meme and it needs to die. If you're legitimately miserable because you're married, you are with the wrong person or should not be with someone.
Most people who are married are not actually miserable and they're just victimizing themselves.

[Cekoviu]

It is an opinion. It is shared by multiple people. It has a name and an agreed-upon basis. Therefore, it is an ideology.

By that metric then, climate change is an ideology.

Climate change is not an opinion.

[Balnik]

State mandated gf

Where do these state-provided girlfriends come from, pray tell? Because I'm definitely going to start an armed uprising if the state tries to take away mine and other women's bodily autonomy so that entitled men can have sex.

Idk. India or some shit. They got like 7 trillion people there they can spare some.

[Nakena]

The GFE is 200€

Great mind think alike:

viewtopic.php?p=35821925#p35821925

The Incel community attacked recently cam performers, ratting them out to the IRS. They're hostile towards prostitution. They do want an actual relationship.

[Ostroeuropa]

Sure.
https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10984

Question is, how relevant are those things even to the Incels? What brings those people into those communities in the first place?

My point is that it's nonsense to claim feminism is a respectful and caring ideology, it demonstrably isn't. It's the articulation of the perspective of people who have measurably lower empathy than others for men.

Gynocentrism is not the solution to people angry at gynocentrism.

A child who wants to strangle their narcissist parent for wrecking their psychology and making them ill isn't going to be made well again if they just accept the narcissist really is right about everything.

The solution is to recognize these social dysfunctions in all their forms and deal with them.

[Galloism]

A lack of social interaction is a human rights violation, we call it solitary confinement.

This is actually a bit of a diamond in the rough - a very good point.

When the government does violate the right to human interaction via solitary, we DO call it torture. When society does it, we don't.

But that's because largely we are opposed to governments causing human rights violations, not the wider society. After all, starving the death is clearly a human rights violation (right to life), but if you are poor and starve to death we don't accuse society of violating your human rights, because no individual person or entity caused your death. If the government kept you in prison and refused to feed you, we'd call that murder.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

And that’s the crux of the matter. The reinforcement among themselves of such flawed viewpoints. It’s a soapbox, it feels good to be right, and since all they hear is that they’re right in thinking the way they do by other individuals who drank the KoolAid just like they did, there’s no stopping the garbage. The only way they can get out is through a Herculean effort. If the want to.

The issue is that much of what they believe has good basis in fact, and most people attempting to dissuade them are telling them to reject the whole package. You're not going to convince people the moon landing is real by denying the US government exists at all so how could it plot a conspiracy?

To even begin you need to acknowledge a bunch of entry level things, and a lot of them involve acknowledging negative trends in most womens thoughts and behavior in how they treat and view men. Almost nobody is willing to do that.

You can accept that women do make mistakes and contribute to some of the issues some of them experience but Ostro, one can only put up with one’s depersonalization and toxicity by them long enough before one just says “fuck it”. Because you’re not viewed as a person interested in helping. You’re viewed as an invader who’s there to deny their feelings. So, no common ground to be had.

You end up, in the end, not giving a fuck. *shrug* They don’t want help. They just want many of their misconceptions validated. Relationships aren’t a right. Some of them, just like some women, won’t have a relationship. Simple.

[Galloism]

Great mind think alike:

viewtopic.php?p=35821925#p35821925

The Incel community attacked recently cam performers, ratting them out to the IRS. They're hostile towards prostitution. They do want an actual relationship.

[Civic Duty Intensifies]

[Cekoviu]

Where do these state-provided girlfriends come from, pray tell? Because I'm definitely going to start an armed uprising if the state tries to take away mine and other women's bodily autonomy so that entitled men can have sex.

Idk. India or some shit. They got like 7 trillion people there they can spare some.

For some reason, I don't think most incels would be too keen on dating an Indian woman.
Also, this is a horrifying thing to say.

[The Union of the West]

Ok? Well. Don't know what to tell you as those are ingredients of a relationship.

lmao

If you seriously believe that, there's something seriously wrong.

Good luck having a successful, happy relationship without respect, honesty, caring or love. It won’t work.