How do we manage the incel epidemic?

[Mojave Confederation]

gays apply male standards to men and it results in a fuckfest, I've heard about what you people get up to on grindr.

Yeah not all gay people do that.

wait does this mean Incel both demonize female and gay male

[Ostroeuropa]

Such is an assumption that can't be made unless you somehow hold the key to Cek's mind. Asking for water? How would that make anyone uncomfortable.

because women are attracted to a much smaller array of guys than men are to women, women feel a disgust response around ugly men. they act like they have leprosy. idk if you have dealt with these women man it's legit

Wtf.

elab lmao

The reason women are attracted to less men than men are attracted to women is women are given status by virtue of being women which men are not. Mens status only comes through topping a hierarchy.

If men had more status, more women would be attracted to more men. If women had less, men would be less attracted to them.

[Des-Bal]

How is it terrible given the results of the study?

The fucked up head games, you were here for our earlier conversation right?

[Grapasia]

gays apply male standards to men and it results in a fuckfest, I've heard about what you people get up to on grindr.

Yeah not all gay people do that.

Yeah of course but grindr is still a fuckfest, if that's their thing they have a much easier time going about it than heterosexuals

[Liriena]

Are you "subtly" trying to take advantage of connotations of privilege and oppression again? Because you know how that's gonna turn out, given your posting history.

And if you don't think it's bigotry, that speaks to your lack of self-awareness. Which, I guess, means that we've finally come full circle. Everything you ever accused "SJWs", feminists and progressives of? You're not just doing it, you're also thinking it. You've internalized the same logic you so ardently criticized.

"It's not bigotry to feel contempt for all women because I think they're all hopelessly predisposed to selfishness. Nevermind all the times I complained that talk of 'toxic masculinity' was misandrist hate speech even when not presented in a biotruther format."

See the above study.

With or without Gallo's conclusion?

[Des-Bal]

My phone's about to die, it's really cruel of you to link to TV Tropes.

See you in a week.

[ImperialRussia]

We need enforce race mixing and not genetically related panthers for a view for a better tomorrow of intelligent people.

[Cekoviu]

Such is an assumption that can't be made unless you somehow hold the key to Cek's mind. Asking for water? How would that make anyone uncomfortable.

because women are attracted to a much smaller array of guys than men are to women, women feel a disgust response around ugly men. they act like they have leprosy. idk if you have dealt with these women man it's legit

There are very few men that I actually interpret as ugly, and I don't have a different response to them than I do towards ugly women... (OTOH, that may just be because I'm bisexual.)

Wtf.

elab lmao

What?

[Mojave Confederation]

Yeah not all gay people do that.

Yeah of course but grindr is still a fuckfest, if that's their thing they have a much easier time going about it than heterosexuals

Tinder is also a fuckfest, isn't the point of dating app is to facilitate the "fucking"?

[Ostroeuropa]

See the above study.

With or without Gallo's conclusion?

Gallos conclusion in light of the study supports my position, because the same study notes that people have serious problems with a perpetrator-victim dichotomy, and if they view women as victims they view men as perpetrators. That is reinforced by and reinforces higher levels of empathy, absolvement of blame, and so on.

Caring less about women frees up that cognitive ability to care about men.

If you care so overwhelmingly about white people that you default to blaming the evil black person for hurting their poor fist when the white person punched them, you need to care about white people less.

Then maybe you'd notice what an asshole they were being. The reason you can't is you care about white people so much, it fucks with your brains ability and you designate the black person as the perpetrator of harm. You care so much about white people it overrides your sense of proportionality.

That's the point.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Widespread sexual liberalism and the idea of sleeping around out of relationships, porn becoming mainstream etc etc.

Man, I miss when your politics weren’t so reactionary.

I don't. Modern mainstream western liberal culture is awful and has led to a great many damaging things becoming normalized for no reason but some nebulous idea of "progress" and a desire to "be on the right side of history", as if such a thing even exists.

[Kowani]

Are you "subtly" trying to take advantage of connotations of privilege and oppression again? Because you know how that's gonna turn out, given your posting history.

And if you don't think it's bigotry, that speaks to your lack of self-awareness. Which, I guess, means that we've finally come full circle. Everything you ever accused "SJWs", feminists and progressives of? You're not just doing it, you're also thinking it. You've internalized the same logic you so ardently criticized.

"It's not bigotry to feel contempt for all women because I think they're all hopelessly predisposed to selfishness. Nevermind all the times I complained that talk of 'toxic masculinity' was misandrist hate speech even when not presented in a biotruther format."

See the above study.

When my wife and I fell in love, she had a high paying job with great benefits while I was working for just above minimum wage at a call center and still lived with my parents. We've been together 7 years now and have a great relationship and her status is still higher than mine by any metric. And I don't have the body of a Greek god either, I'm a skinny guy with a receding hairline in my 20's.

Your wife views traits you have in high esteem and values them as high status traits she desires to emulate. This involves knowing a person more intimately than a one night stand requires, but fundamentally the same dynamic is in play.

A deep relationship involves both partners admiring eachother and being somewhat in awe of their partners traits and the status they project on to those traits.

Tv Tropes.



You keep falling at the third hurdle.

How so?

You keep using the word status. I do not think you know what it means.

[Grapasia]

because women are attracted to a much smaller array of guys than men are to women, women feel a disgust response around ugly men. they act like they have leprosy. idk if you have dealt with these women man it's legit

There are very few men that I actually interpret as ugly, and I don't have a different response to them than I do towards ugly women... (OTOH, that may just be because I'm bisexual.)

elab lmao

What?

you gave me wtf with a full stop
this doesn't say anything

[The New California Republic]

Yeah not all gay people do that.

Yeah of course but grindr is still a fuckfest, if that's their thing they have a much easier time going about it than heterosexuals

Tinder is a thing you know...

And I don't know if you have noticed, but straight nightclubs are basically just a place to get some action.

[Grapasia]

because women are attracted to a much smaller array of guys than men are to women, women feel a disgust response around ugly men. they act like they have leprosy. idk if you have dealt with these women man it's legit


elab lmao

The reason women are attracted to less men than men are attracted to women is women are given status by virtue of being women which men are not. Mens status only comes through topping a hierarchy.

If men had more status, more women would be attracted to more men. If women had less, men would be less attracted to them.

I seriously doubt it bro, in irl and on dating apps manletism, ugly face, balding, being fat are all killers. you can be homeless chad and dick down plenty of foids, I think there's a vice doco on sex while homeless with some super tall chadlite talking about how he gets accomodation from the women he bangs

[Des-Bal]

you gave me wtf with a full stop
this doesn't say anything

What you said was crazy. It was so fucking crazy. If someone said that to me at a bar I'd pick up bottle and back away slowly.

[Chestaan]

Ah eugenics, lovely

Personalities have a large genetic component, and is strongly affected by traits such as hormone balances, temperament, and time preference, and fight or flight instincts (all of which are genetic).

Ok and?

[Cekoviu]

There are very few men that I actually interpret as ugly, and I don't have a different response to them than I do towards ugly women... (OTOH, that may just be because I'm bisexual.)

What?

you gave me wtf with a full stop
this doesn't say anything

Honestly, I was just taken aback that you assumed such a huge amount about my personality and behavior merely because I'm a "femoid." Suppose it's not surprising coming from an incel.

[Kowani]

Man, I miss when your politics weren’t so reactionary.

I don't. Modern mainstream western liberal culture is awful

Subjective value judgement.

and has led to a great many damaging things becoming normalized for no reason

And yet in all quantifiable terms, we’re doing better than ever before.

but some nebulous idea of "progress" and a desire to "be on the right side of history", as if such a thing even exists.

Progress is the end goal of humanity.

[Ostroeuropa]

The reason women are attracted to less men than men are attracted to women is women are given status by virtue of being women which men are not. Mens status only comes through topping a hierarchy.

If men had more status, more women would be attracted to more men. If women had less, men would be less attracted to them.

I seriously doubt it bro, in irl and on dating apps manletism, ugly face, balding, being fat are all killers. you can be homeless chad and dick down plenty of foids, I think there's a vice doco on sex while homeless with some super tall chadlite talking about how he gets accomodation from the women he bangs

I'm bald, not attractive physically (missing teeth, scar under my left eye, and so on), and a bona fide schizophrenic, but it doesn't matter because I can hold a crowds attention with a story and so on.

Admittedly the teeth are now fixed and i'm obsessive about maximizing my appearance, but that's for philosophical reasons and post-dates my relationship. Appearance is status, status is power.

[Cekoviu]

The reason women are attracted to less men than men are attracted to women is women are given status by virtue of being women which men are not. Mens status only comes through topping a hierarchy.

If men had more status, more women would be attracted to more men. If women had less, men would be less attracted to them.

I seriously doubt it bro, in irl and on dating apps manletism, ugly face, balding, being fat are all killers. you can be homeless chad and dick down plenty of foids, I think there's a vice doco on sex while homeless with some super tall chadlite talking about how he gets accomodation from the women he bangs

Brb puking

[Grapasia]

Yeah of course but grindr is still a fuckfest, if that's their thing they have a much easier time going about it than heterosexuals

Tinder is a thing you know...

And I don't know if you have noticed, but straight nightclubs are basically just a place to get some action.

you seem to have a nasty habit of not reading my ops, among other things. tinder is a fuckfest but only for women and the top men, because women have much higher standards than men do, which makes sense because of the logistics of reproduction. read up nuddy boyo

[The South Falls]

you gave me wtf with a full stop
this doesn't say anything

What you said was crazy. It was so fucking crazy. If someone said that to me at a bar I'd pick up bottle and back away slowly.

Maybe not like that, but that was some insane shit.

[Liriena]

Yeah not all gay people do that.

wait does this mean Incel both demonize female and gay male

Kinda. Incels assume that there can be no such thing as a gay incel because gay men have "low standards" and will screw anything.

Much like everything else in the manosphere, it's bullshit built around the fickle, bastardized remnant of a fraction of a half-truth.

[Heloin]

People really shouldn't tie so much of there identity into having had sex or not.