How do we manage the incel epidemic?

[The New California Republic]

End capitalism.

Would that even do anything regarding incels though?

[Liriena]

End capitalism.

This is basically the ultimate answer to every problem these days

[The South Falls]

Men need to reach out to other men before their insecurity and disappointment about being unsuccessful in romance and/or sex before those feelings turn into resentment and persecution. Incels, The Red Pill, and the other ultra-reactionary factions of the "manosphere" are composed of a few cult leaders who prey on insecure men, they take advantage of these men when they're at their most vulnerable and slowly indoctrinate them into the cult - the same MO as radical Islamist terrorists and several cults throughout history.

What we need to do is reach out to these guys before the cult leaders convince them that they're their friends and have an answer for why their life isn't going the way they wanted. They need men in their lives who have been through the same struggles, to empathize with them but also make them understand that hatred and dehumanization of women is not the answer to their problems.

This will only work if it's not feminists doing it, because of the consistent attempt to gaslight these individuals by conflating awareness of womens flaws with hating women. Akin to trying to get someone to stop being an Islamophobe while straight up claiming that thinking terrorism exists is Islamophobic.

Feminists are a small minority that doesn't reach out to incels. If someone else does, maybe it could work. If women and men came together, then sure. I mean normal women, and non-incel men.

[Grapasia]

"Involuntary celibacy" is not a thing, unless you were forced to become a priest by your family or the state or something. Being unsuccessful in the dating scene is a thing, but there's no such thing as being innately doomed to solitude unless you are literally the worst person who ever lived (and even then...).

Just stop being misogynist bro.

reinforce the belief that they are ugly, women hate them, and doomed to be alone forever.

All of these things are true though.

[Bojikami]

End capitalism.

Would that even do anything regarding incels though?

Well, bringing to the end of capitalism would go a long way into ending the alienation of the individual, which in itself plays a large part into the creation of inceldom.

[Hamstan]

My two cents are people have kinda forgotten to love each other as people. Yes, sex is nice and all, but you should love someone for their personality first, the rest second. With all this openness and every relationship seemingly being centered around sex and sex alone, this was bound to happen eventually. No real way to fix it now, unless you want to culturally shift everything. Not like I really care about sex anymore, but I digress.

[The South Falls]

End capitalism.

This is basically the ultimate answer to every problem these days

Your head too big - end capitalism

too small- end capitalism

too large - end capitalism

got DD's but u a man - end capitalism

can't find a girl - end capitalism

too many girls - end capitalism

your house has too many leaks - end capitalism

your house has too many leeks - end capitalism

those leeks taste like ass - end capitalism

[Ostroeuropa]

Worthless so long as we keep listening to feminists and letting gynocentrists run the show. The social activities must be constructed in a way suited to mens needs and without feminist henpecking of them and their organizations, or there is no point.

Throw sexually insecure and unexperienced boys in a mixed gender environment and it'll just depress them as they use it as another opportunity to flirt and fail. It's only with the absence of women and an all male bonding and self-improvement environment these boys and men can be helped.

Filtering out the usual conflation of a certain brand of not particularly insightful liberal feminism with all feminism ever, you are sort of right.

Young men need more role models for starters to teach them how to be men. And they sure as shit aren't going to get that while youth centres and sports groups and whatever else up and down the country are being closed. Hell, as a nation a lot of our infrastructure and public space either doesn't recognise or is actively hostile to teenagers.

I'm not interested in another round of Gregor Strassers defense of how not all Nazis hate jews mate, and you're not interested in denying that's an accurate parallel, so we'll move on.

This is true, but the problem is that those role models must not be selected by feminists and their idea of what a role model is because they are gynocentrists. Investment is good but not necessary. Men are perfectly capable of bonding with relatively little resources. A major part of the issue is hostility and antipathy to male bonding environments that has been inculcated by the feminist movement, such that it is undervalued by the populace, including these boys who are constantly taught they need to be woke feminists.

[Liriena]

End capitalism.

Would that even do anything regarding incels though?

Weeeeell, a lot of incels do seem to exist in the cultural and socioeconomic hole of despair that is being a NEET, something which is made all the worse by the fact that most cultural products marketed towards people like them foster alienation, anti-social behavior and misguided preconceptions of how social life works or is supposed to work.

[The South Falls]

My two cents are people have kinda forgotten to love each other as people. Yes, sex is nice and all, but you should love someone for their personality first, the rest second. With all this openness and every relationship seemingly being centered around sex and sex alone, this was bound to happen eventually. No real way to fix it now, unless you want to culturally shift everything. Not like I really care about sex anymore, but I digress.

People are physically built to see someone's face as the determining factor of their attractiveness. Other traits come in second. Though, if you have a way with words, and are at least somewhat funny, the first doesn't matter.

[Ostroeuropa]

This will only work if it's not feminists doing it, because of the consistent attempt to gaslight these individuals by conflating awareness of womens flaws with hating women. Akin to trying to get someone to stop being an Islamophobe while straight up claiming that thinking terrorism exists is Islamophobic.

Feminists are a small minority that doesn't reach out to incels. If someone else does, maybe it could work. If women and men came together, then sure. I mean normal women, and non-incel men.

People aren't capable of organizing to reach out to millions of other people without forming organizations and institutions, which feminism then fucks over and undermines. It is only when those organizations are categorically opposed to and reject feminism and its interference that they can shrug off those attempts and not have their efforts ruined by gynocentrism. Because so long as you let feminists influence them, they will be ruined and turned against their original purpose in favor of being just another gynocentric group.

[Borovan entered the region as he]

Is there a tldr version bc I am not reading 10,000 words

[Hamstan]

Would that even do anything regarding incels though?

Weeeeell, a lot of incels do seem to exist in the cultural and socioeconomic hole of despair that is being a NEET, something which is made all the worse by the fact that most cultural products marketed towards people like them foster alienation, anti-social behavior and misguided preconceptions of how social life works or is supposed to work.

Who cares about capitalism or communism, I'm just ready for the societal collapse at this point

[Page]

Humans do have instincts embedded over the course of evolution, but we also have sentience and create our own priorities, we aren't slaves to our reptilian brain. My wife and I share a mutual interest in being childfree, breeding is not part of the equation for us.

Why?

You can't just reduce all human relationships to instinct.

Watch me.

Like super fungus?

lold thanks

I don't think there is a why beyond "We just don't want kids" What one wants is not defined by what wants are absent. Every person is aware of thousands of objects, people, experiences, and responsibilities that they could have but don't want.

If you say "I don't want a water bed", that doesn't necessarily mean you have reasons for not liking water beds, only that you don't have a reason why having a waterbed would make you happy.

I can think of lots of benefits I have by not having kids, but those benefits are an afterthought, not the reason itself.

[Bojikami]

This is basically the ultimate answer to every problem these days

Your head too big - end capitalism

too small- end capitalism

too large - end capitalism

got DD's but u a man - end capitalism

can't find a girl - end capitalism

too many girls - end capitalism

your house has too many leaks - end capitalism

your house has too many leeks - end capitalism

those leeks taste like ass - end capitalism

Okay but unironically tho.

[Holy auxmite empire]

just end liberalism








end of story

[Holy auxmite empire]

just end liberalism








end of story

[Liriena]

"Involuntary celibacy" is not a thing, unless you were forced to become a priest by your family or the state or something. Being unsuccessful in the dating scene is a thing, but there's no such thing as being innately doomed to solitude unless you are literally the worst person who ever lived (and even then...).

Just stop being misogynist bro.

A couple things:

1. That man is not representative of the incel community.
2. Nelson de la Rosa had a wife and a son.
3. Our culture does tend to put a lot of weight on romantic and sexual intimacy as a mark of social status and normalcy, but that doesn't mean you innately need them to be a fulfilled, happy person.

[Grapasia]

I have no issue with a man who currently is having trouble getting laid as I myself am suffering the same dilemma, mainly because I know next to no one in my hometown save for my best friend Josh and a few other guys. Unlike when I lived on the west side, I really don't have much of a social life out here and my girlfriend recently broke up with me. However, I cannot stand a man who blames women for the fact he can't get laid or even more severe, the fact he's still a virgin. These incels get these weird ideas that women basically owe them sex and that feminism is somehow to blame for girls not wanting them. Because of the extreme pandemic of incelism worldwide, I've come up with an 8-step path to treating incelism. Keep in mind that a cure can be hard to come by and I have the social skills of a potato so I can't give you the answer how to get laid really, apart from be in high school and hang around a lot of drunkards and junkies.

Rojava's 8 step path to treating incelismI

1. stop feeling entitled: women don't owe you sex. They don't even owe you any sort of attention. If you think women don't wanna talk to you, ask yourself this. Have you actually made an attempt to talk to them? No? Well that might be the biggest issue right there.

2. stop pretending women are persecuting you: not getting the nookie is anything but oppression, and on a scale of human suffering I would call that maybe a 1 or 2 out of 10.

3. Move: sometimes changing addresses really solves the problem. Moving into a more urban area will acquaint you with a nightlife that you wouldn't otherwise have in some rural backwater or boring suburb.

4. go to college: this may be difficult for some but if you actually go off to school instead of attending Macomb community college or some other place where burnouts hang about, you may actually meet women

5. Roosh V can't help you: Roosh's supposed pick up magic is some of the most degenerate and downright disgusting advice any man can give another man and based on where he's been and what he's done, I wouldn't trust drinking out of a glass in the same room as that freak.

6. Don't lose your head: if you ever feel anxious about being an incel, just calm yourself down and practice some relaxation exercises such as meditating, going for a walk or watching Tv. Don't let a bad time ruin your entire life.

7. Talk to your parents: I mean if you're comfortable of course. Maybe they can advise you.

8. clean yourself up: chances are if you smell like a dead moose's last shit, look like the creator of sonichu and play Halo endlessly, you won't get girls. Simply taking a shower, shaving, washing your face and wearing some clean clothes can turn a 4 to a 7.

By following the 8 fold path, we may be able to put an end to the incel pandemic. Together we can cure virgin with rage disorder

I agree that PUA is garbage designed to give false hope to sub-5 men, although the red pill in general has some good points on female nature that the black pill's LMS fundamentalism sometimes ignores. Cold approaches in particular are fucking retarded.

The rest of this is horrible though lmao. This seems like a guide on how to be as pathetic as possible and pretend to be okay with it. You're the one giving it enough significance to be called pathetic as well, Mr " even more severe, the fact he's still a virgin". You probably post on inceltears lmao. Also have you actually gone to college and gotten laid? Universities are hypergamy central, a lot of people go there and study useless degrees just to get railed. JFL at suggesting to hang around inebriated people lmao, what a way to tell somebody they're completely undesirable. I have no idea how people with this mindset don't spontaneously combust from all the positive dissonance, you are so bluepilled it's scary if you unironically think people who can't get laid honestly believe they are entitled to women.

[Rojava Free State]

Weeeeell, a lot of incels do seem to exist in the cultural and socioeconomic hole of despair that is being a NEET, something which is made all the worse by the fact that most cultural products marketed towards people like them foster alienation, anti-social behavior and misguided preconceptions of how social life works or is supposed to work.

Who cares about capitalism or communism, I'm just ready for the societal collapse at this point

Same

[Kowani]

Is there a tldr version bc I am not reading 10,000 words

How do we get people to fuck more? Specifically, the unwanted people to do it?

[Liriena]

Weeeeell, a lot of incels do seem to exist in the cultural and socioeconomic hole of despair that is being a NEET, something which is made all the worse by the fact that most cultural products marketed towards people like them foster alienation, anti-social behavior and misguided preconceptions of how social life works or is supposed to work.

Who cares about capitalism or communism, I'm just ready for the societal collapse at this point

Real posadist hours

[Ostroeuropa]

Just stop being misogynist bro.

A couple things:

1. That man is not representative of the incel community.
2. Nelson de la Rosa had a wife and a son.
3. Our culture does tend to put a lot of weight on romantic and sexual intimacy as a mark of social status and normalcy, but that doesn't mean you innately need them to be a fulfilled, happy person.

These observations about women transcended the incel community into other communities too, including those with spouses and partners. Your third point is wrong. Our culture puts a lot of weight on womens approval as a mark of social status and normalcy, and one means they express approval is through sexual intimacy, this being upheld by the trend to virgin shame and so on, which is now commonly expressed in crypto ways by denigrating critics of female supremacy as loser virgins, incels, and so on.

[Grapasia]

2. Nelson de la Rosa had a wife and a son.

Just be a celebrity bro

3. Our culture does tend to put a lot of weight on romantic and sexual intimacy as a mark of social status and normalcy, but that doesn't mean you innately need them to be a fulfilled, happy person.

It's not our culture, somebody descended from a line that managed to avoid genetic death for billions of years is going to be livid when it seems forced upon them. Sexual frustration is a thing and there's a reason the word frustration in particular is used for it.

[Rojava Free State]

I have no issue with a man who currently is having trouble getting laid as I myself am suffering the same dilemma, mainly because I know next to no one in my hometown save for my best friend Josh and a few other guys. Unlike when I lived on the west side, I really don't have much of a social life out here and my girlfriend recently broke up with me. However, I cannot stand a man who blames women for the fact he can't get laid or even more severe, the fact he's still a virgin. These incels get these weird ideas that women basically owe them sex and that feminism is somehow to blame for girls not wanting them. Because of the extreme pandemic of incelism worldwide, I've come up with an 8-step path to treating incelism. Keep in mind that a cure can be hard to come by and I have the social skills of a potato so I can't give you the answer how to get laid really, apart from be in high school and hang around a lot of drunkards and junkies.

Rojava's 8 step path to treating incelismI

1. stop feeling entitled: women don't owe you sex. They don't even owe you any sort of attention. If you think women don't wanna talk to you, ask yourself this. Have you actually made an attempt to talk to them? No? Well that might be the biggest issue right there.

2. stop pretending women are persecuting you: not getting the nookie is anything but oppression, and on a scale of human suffering I would call that maybe a 1 or 2 out of 10.

3. Move: sometimes changing addresses really solves the problem. Moving into a more urban area will acquaint you with a nightlife that you wouldn't otherwise have in some rural backwater or boring suburb.

4. go to college: this may be difficult for some but if you actually go off to school instead of attending Macomb community college or some other place where burnouts hang about, you may actually meet women

5. Roosh V can't help you: Roosh's supposed pick up magic is some of the most degenerate and downright disgusting advice any man can give another man and based on where he's been and what he's done, I wouldn't trust drinking out of a glass in the same room as that freak.

6. Don't lose your head: if you ever feel anxious about being an incel, just calm yourself down and practice some relaxation exercises such as meditating, going for a walk or watching Tv. Don't let a bad time ruin your entire life.

7. Talk to your parents: I mean if you're comfortable of course. Maybe they can advise you.

8. clean yourself up: chances are if you smell like a dead moose's last shit, look like the creator of sonichu and play Halo endlessly, you won't get girls. Simply taking a shower, shaving, washing your face and wearing some clean clothes can turn a 4 to a 7.

By following the 8 fold path, we may be able to put an end to the incel pandemic. Together we can cure virgin with rage disorder

I agree that PUA is garbage designed to give false hope to sub-5 men, although the red pill in general has some good points on female nature that the black pill's LMS fundamentalism sometimes ignores. Cold approaches in particular are fucking retarded.

The rest of this is horrible though lmao. This seems like a guide on how to be as pathetic as possible and pretend to be okay with it. You're the one giving it enough significance to be called pathetic as well, Mr " even more severe, the fact he's still a virgin". You probably post on inceltears lmao. Also have you actually gone to college and gotten laid? Universities are hypergamy central, a lot of people go there and study useless degrees just to get railed. JFL at suggesting to hang around inebriated people lmao, what a way to tell somebody they're completely undesirable. I have no idea how people with this mindset don't spontaneously combust from all the positive dissonance, you are so bluepilled it's scary if you unironically think people who can't get laid honestly believe they are entitled to women.

Spotted the incel