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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:41 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I mean that’s far different than what this chucklefuck did. Granted the other officer could have been a bit overzealous since he is pretty new.

Oh, he definitely reacted inappropriately. But his being suspicious was a good thing, he just followed through very poorly.

Which leads me to suspect he’s a little too green
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:43 pm

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Scomagia wrote:That's pretty shitty.

Why? I have no proof a crime that had been committed. Having large sums of money isn't a crime, nor does it indicate one had been committed.

It still bears mentioning to your superiors or someone, given that it is abnormal and potentially indicative of corruption.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:44 pm

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Grinning Dragon wrote:Nope. Unless an investigator came and asked me I would answer, but other than that it's none of my business.


You would make a terrible police officer. Their job description literally involves poking their nose into things.

Or the type of officer that applies constitutional rights first above all other civil laws. Playing precrime cop is a shitty cop.

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Postby Scomagia » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:44 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Oh, he definitely reacted inappropriately. But his being suspicious was a good thing, he just followed through very poorly.

Which leads me to suspect he’s a little too green

Could be.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:45 pm

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Grinning Dragon wrote:Why? I have no proof a crime that had been committed. Having large sums of money isn't a crime, nor does it indicate one had been committed.

It still bears mentioning to your superiors or someone, given that it is abnormal and potentially indicative of corruption.

Which is what the newbie here should have done but I suspect he wanted to show everyone he could catch the bad guy himself
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:45 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Why? I have no proof a crime that had been committed. Having large sums of money isn't a crime, nor does it indicate one had been committed.

It still bears mentioning to your superiors or someone, given that it is abnormal and potentially indicative of corruption.

Again, how does having that sum of money "potentially indicative"? It's precrime bullshit, stop that.
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:45 pm

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You would make a terrible police officer. Their job description literally involves poking their nose into things.

Or the type of officer that applies constitutional rights first above all other civil laws. Playing precrime cop is a shitty cop.

Reporting questionable activity to the department or elsewhere is not playing "precrime cop". It's just being a good cop.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:46 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Or the type of officer that applies constitutional rights first above all other civil laws. Playing precrime cop is a shitty cop.

Reporting questionable activity to the department or elsewhere is not playing "precrime cop". It's just being a good cop.

It's being a tattle tale.

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Postby Andsed » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:47 pm

I mean the reaction was overkill certainly but I don´t see anything really suggesting this was racism. Could it be? Maybe but it also just as likely the guy was suspicious of a cop carrying 5 grand and was a newbie and reacted inappropriately.
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:49 pm

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Scomagia wrote:It still bears mentioning to your superiors or someone, given that it is abnormal and potentially indicative of corruption.

Again, how does having that sum of money "potentially indicative"? It's precrime bullshit, stop that.

It's not "precrime". Stop that. It's reporting suspicious activity from fellow officers for follow up, if needed, by the relevant departments. Jesus, your logic is exactly what makes corruption so hard to fight.
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Postby Andsed » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:50 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Reporting questionable activity to the department or elsewhere is not playing "precrime cop". It's just being a good cop.

It's being a tattle tale.

Reporting someone for a suspected crime is not being a tattle tail. That whole mentality of being a ¨tattle tale¨ and reporting a suspected crime to the police should go die in a fire. If you suspect someone of committing a crime it is better to report it than just let it go.
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:51 pm

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Scomagia wrote:Reporting questionable activity to the department or elsewhere is not playing "precrime cop". It's just being a good cop.

It's being a tattle tale.

No, it's norm enforcement and accountability. It's no different than one officer mentioning to their superior that their partner has been really angry lately and his wife happens to have a busted lip.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:51 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Again, how does having that sum of money "potentially indicative"? It's precrime bullshit, stop that.

It's not "precrime". Stop that. It's reporting suspicious activity from fellow officers for follow up, if needed, by the relevant departments. Jesus, your logic is exactly what makes corruption so hard to fight.
"I see Juan has a new BMW."
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Just what is so suspicious about having 5k? Christ almighty. The problem today, is that everyone is automatically suspicious and goes off all half cocked with zero evidence or facts.

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Postby Scomagia » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:52 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Scomagia wrote:It still bears mentioning to your superiors or someone, given that it is abnormal and potentially indicative of corruption.

Which is what the newbie here should have done but I suspect he wanted to show everyone he could catch the bad guy himself

That's quite possible.
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:53 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Scomagia wrote:It's not "precrime". Stop that. It's reporting suspicious activity from fellow officers for follow up, if needed, by the relevant departments. Jesus, your logic is exactly what makes corruption so hard to fight.
"I see Juan has a new BMW."
"On our salary? That's kinda weird. You think we should mention it?"
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Just what is so suspicious about having 5k? Christ almighty. The problem today, is that everyone is automatically suspicious and goes off all half cocked with zero evidence or facts.

So, it doesn't strike you as weird for a cop, a position that easily lends itself to corruption, to have five grand in cash in their pocket? Really?
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:54 pm

Definitely not racist but it brings into question why they are arresting people for having to much money.
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Postby The Sherpa Empire » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:55 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Other officers being corrupt actually would be your business.

I believe that is left to IA. Again, without proof, none of my business. Having large sums of money is not proof of corruption or a crime had been committed.


That's why you ask politely instead of cuffing him, because it isn't proof.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:55 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:
Just what is so suspicious about having 5k? Christ almighty. The problem today, is that everyone is automatically suspicious and goes off all half cocked with zero evidence or facts.

So, it doesn't strike you as weird for a cop, a position that easily lends itself to corruption, to have five grand in cash in their pocket? Really?

For the last time, NO. Why is it so hard for anyone to understand that I would not find that suspicious.

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Postby Andsed » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:58 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:Definitely not racist but it brings into question why they are arresting people for having to much money.

He was not arrested for having to much money. He was arrested due to accusations of corruption. Because a cop, a position where corruption is in no way uncommon having 5 grand in physical cash in their pocket is kinda suspicious.
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:59 pm

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Communist Zombie Horde wrote:Definitely not racist but it brings into question why they are arresting people for having to much money.

He was not arrested for having to much money. He was arrested due to accusations of corruption. Because a cop, a position where corruption is in no way uncommon having 5 grand in physical cash in their pocket is kinda suspicious.

So cops can't have money?
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Postby Aclion » Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:00 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:Definitely not racist but it brings into question why they are arresting people for having to much money.

Because when they arrest people for having too much money they are allowed to keep the money until the person proves they obtained it legally.

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Reporting questionable activity to the department or elsewhere is not playing "precrime cop". It's just being a good cop.

It's being a tattle tale.

As a cop. You are literally a professional tattle tale.
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Postby Neutraligon » Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:01 pm

Andsed wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:Definitely not racist but it brings into question why they are arresting people for having to much money.

He was not arrested for having to much money. He was arrested due to accusations of corruption. Because a cop, a position where corruption is in no way uncommon having 5 grand in physical cash in their pocket is kinda suspicious.

Did the “arresting officer” know he was a cop? And I don’t see it as particularly suspicious
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Postby Aeritai » Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:01 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Andsed wrote:He was not arrested for having to much money. He was arrested due to accusations of corruption. Because a cop, a position where corruption is in no way uncommon having 5 grand in physical cash in their pocket is kinda suspicious.

So cops can't have money?


Cops are allowed to have money, who knows William and his girlfriend could have been saving up their money to withdraw it from the bank.
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Postby Andsed » Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:01 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Andsed wrote:He was not arrested for having to much money. He was arrested due to accusations of corruption. Because a cop, a position where corruption is in no way uncommon having 5 grand in physical cash in their pocket is kinda suspicious.

So cops can't have money?

No. No one is saying that. It was the amount which was around 5 grand which for someone on a police officer´s salary to just have in their pocket which was suspicious.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:02 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Scomagia wrote:So, it doesn't strike you as weird for a cop, a position that easily lends itself to corruption, to have five grand in cash in their pocket? Really?

For the last time, NO. Why is it so hard for anyone to understand that I would not find that suspicious.


Because any rational police officer would find it suspicious, and I imagine most people considered you rational.

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