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Postby Aclion » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:47 pm

Abarri wrote:It disconcerts me that Fritts is also a detective.

Did he deliberately forget Mark 12:31? I dismiss that guy as someone who spouts another unsurprising fundamentalist garbage, always wanting to start something.

Matthew 7:1-2

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Postby Kombinita Socialisma Demokratio » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:49 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
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No, you're right. OT is for Jews; NT is for Christians.

Why'd Jesus null the old laws again?
Also the antichrist is supposedly sexually perverted but not into females. Implies homosexuality right?

The one cubit thick curtain separating the Holy of Holies and the Holy Place in the Tabernacle was broken during the crucifixion, as Jesus' love/self-sacrifice allowed any to speak to God personally, not only the high priest. And all the laws were summed up by the two greatest commandments: the golden rule and love God as much as you can.




It just occurred to me that if the pastor ever recites the Lord's prayer (as is usually done at least somewhat regularly by regular church-goers), then they are requesting that God forgive them however they forgive others, which in this case, is not much.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:49 pm

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Eternal Lotharia wrote:Why'd Jesus null the old laws again?
Also the antichrist is supposedly sexually perverted but not into females. Implies homosexuality right?


Or pedophilia.
Like the average Roman Catholic priest.

Interesting point.

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Postby Abarri » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:52 pm

Aclion wrote:
Abarri wrote:It disconcerts me that Fritts is also a detective.

Did he deliberately forget Mark 12:31? I dismiss that guy as someone who spouts another unsurprising fundamentalist garbage, always wanting to start something.

Matthew 7:1-2

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Kombinita Socialisma Demokratio wrote:And also (mostly) repeated in the New Testament, and all summed up by the golden rule + love God as much as you can.

Jesus said to love even your enemies.

I know, right? That Tennessee guy should put a little more love in his heart. As if more hatred towards the LGBT+ is going to solve anything...
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Postby Kombinita Socialisma Demokratio » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:55 pm

Abarri wrote:
Aclion wrote:Matthew 7:1-2

American Pere Housh wrote:Jesus said to love even your enemies.

I know, right? That Tennessee guy should put a little more love in his heart. As if more hatred towards the LGBT+ is going to solve anything...

First John 1:8 can support the view that the pastor does not know God, depending on the interpretation (the pastor may love someone, just not everyone).
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Postby Korhal IVV » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:57 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Kombinita Socialisma Demokratio wrote:The one cubit thick curtain separating the Holy of Holies and the Holy Place in the Tabernacle was broken during the crucifixion, as Jesus' love/self-sacrifice allowed any to speak to God personally, not only the high priest. And all the laws were summed up by the two greatest commandments: the golden rule and love God as much as you can.

Ok, why were the old laws there anyway?

So that Israel would be separate from the pagan nations.

As for this pastor, even though I am against LGBT matrimonial union (which is one officiated by the church) and consider acts associated with it as sin, this pastor... well, is a bad example for the rest of us, if anything.

I mean, I had a schoolmate or two in seminary that used to be a crossdressing homosexual until a church took him (her?) and his friends in, nevermind that these were guys with a fixation on other guys. This resulted in their lives being changed for the better and dedication to God.

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Postby The Rich Port » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:57 pm

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Theological nuances don't really matter a lot outside of the niche philosophical field of... Theology.

So... Why would/should we care, exactly?

It especially has zero relevance to whether this smug zealot has a right to persecute people based upon whether he thinks they're committing imagined crimes.


It's relevant because it was brought up, and it was brought up because differing understandings of the Bible have led to this guy saying what he's saying.

Although really, it's ultimately a topic best handled by the CDT.


Thank for making my point for me... Twice.

The real issue here is whether the guy should be on the force, and whether his zealotry creates a conflict of interest.

That's going to be the determinant in whether his "free speech rights" will be respected enough to not impact his increasingly doubtful career.
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Postby Kombinita Socialisma Demokratio » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:59 pm

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Kombinita Socialisma Demokratio wrote:First John 1:8 can support the view that the pastor does not know God, depending on the interpretation (the pastor may love someone, just not everyone).

Can you dislike and want to avoid some people? Individuals, personality reasons.

Depending on the interpretation. Nearly everyone believes so. Just have some degree of care/empathy towards everyone.
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Postby Jataram » Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:07 pm

That's stupid.
This man can say whatever he wants, but honestly, It's just stupid. Can't we just get over the fact that LGBT+ people exist, and that their existence is not any harm to you?

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Postby North German Realm » Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:08 pm

Wow, this Pride Month has really triggered the Heteros, hasn't it?
First the stupid "Straight pride", then that guy who said all gays should be "killed out", now this.
I wonder if calling for the genocide of all Heteros in idk a public conference would be met with as chill a response ("He's entitled to his opinion") as this is.
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Postby American Pere Housh » Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:12 pm

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American Pere Housh wrote:1 Corinthians 13

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13 If I speak in the tongues[a] of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast,[b] but do not have love, I gain nothing.
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. 11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

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North German Realm wrote:Wow, this Pride Month has really triggered the Heteros, hasn't it?
First the stupid "Straight pride", then that guy who said all gays should be "killed out", now this.
I wonder if calling for the genocide of all Heteros in idk a public conference would be met with as chill a response ("He's entitled to his opinion") as this is.

"Straight pride"? :p

No, like Eternal Lotharia said. It's going to be a mess.

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Postby United States of Americanas » Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:15 pm

He himself is committing a sin against the Christ by judging people and determining who is worthy of execution.

Judge not lest ye be judged. Let the man without sin cast the first stone are Biblical quotes that come to my mind.

Not even Jesus picked up the stone when that happened.

He calls for LGBT to be executed, he should be investigated and potentially stripped of his ordainment and charged criminally.

This is exactly why I threw organized religion out of my life.

These pastors go preaching hell and brimstone for sinners when they themselves are sinful for all that live on earth have sinned.

King David was a murderer! Jesus was crucified with a thief and he forgave the thief.

Yet these preachers act like they have some sort of authority over who gets to live and who goes to hell.

Hell doesn’t exist! When Jesus died they claim he went to hell for three days to speak to the prisoners and set them free and so it was, hell had been emptied and all of the prisoners reborn with life anew. After Jesus empties hell he sealed it shut for all eternity so that no man would have to face the horrors of it.

You either die and go to Heaven or you die and are given another life on Earth.

God is infinite undying love. He does not judge people for he knows all are sinners and need to be given deliverance through Jesus Christ so we may be purified and set in our place in the Heavens.
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People like that should not be allowed to serve in law enforcement, or any government position for that matter.

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Postby North German Realm » Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:18 pm

Samudera Darussalam wrote:
North German Realm wrote:Wow, this Pride Month has really triggered the Heteros, hasn't it?
First the stupid "Straight pride", then that guy who said all gays should be "killed out", now this.
I wonder if calling for the genocide of all Heteros in idk a public conference would be met with as chill a response ("He's entitled to his opinion") as this is.

"Straight pride"? :p

No, like Eternal Lotharia said. It's going to be a mess.

No, there were literally calls for a straight pride when this June began, except it happened that almost everyone of the people behind it were far right.
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United States of Americanas wrote:He himself is committing a sin against the Christ by judging people and determining who is worthy of execution.

Judge not lest ye be judged. Let the man without sin cast the first stone are Biblical quotes that come to my mind.

Not even Jesus picked up the stone when that happened.

He calls for LGBT to be executed, he should be investigated and potentially stripped of his ordainment and charged criminally.

This is exactly why I threw organized religion out of my life.

These pastors go preaching hell and brimstone for sinners when they themselves are sinful for all that live on earth have sinned.

King David was a murderer! Jesus was crucified with a thief and he forgave the thief.

Yet these preachers act like they have some sort of authority over who gets to live and who goes to hell.

Hell doesn’t exist! When Jesus died they claim he went to hell for three days to speak to the prisoners and set them free and so it was, hell had been emptied and all of the prisoners reborn with life anew. After Jesus empties hell he sealed it shut for all eternity so that no man would have to face the horrors of it.

You either die and go to Heaven or you die and are given another life on Earth.

God is infinite undying love. He does not judge people for he knows all are sinners and need to be given deliverance through Jesus Christ so we may be purified and set in our place in the Heavens.

Dude I'm pretty sure Hell's still a thing in Christianity. And rejecting a religion because of bad people is a nonsensical reason to lose belief.
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Postby Salus Maior » Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:20 pm

North German Realm wrote:Wow, this Pride Month has really triggered the Heteros, hasn't it?
First the stupid "Straight pride", then that guy who said all gays should be "killed out", now this.
I wonder if calling for the genocide of all Heteros in idk a public conference would be met with as chill a response ("He's entitled to his opinion") as this is.


I've yet to see a single post that's anything less than "Yeah, this guy's the worst" and saying that he should have no position in law enforcement.

I think you're blowing the situation out of proportion.
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Postby The Rich Port » Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:22 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Dude I'm pretty sure Hell's still a thing in Christianity. And rejecting a religion because of bad people is a nonsensical reason to lose belief.


Hardly on the same level as mortal sins, isn't it?

Also, since we're all so concerned about free speech, he can believe whatever he wants, you're not one to judge him on that.
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Neanderthaland wrote:Yeesh. Someone needs to get laid.

If only solving people's hatred was as simple as that...
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Neanderthaland wrote:Yeesh. Someone needs to get laid.

By a dude. :lol2:

If one can convince him to :p

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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:24 pm

North German Realm wrote:Wow, this Pride Month has really triggered the Heteros, hasn't it?

The vast majority of Heteros don't care in the slightest. This is just an asshole, not a massive heterosexual backlash.

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Postby American Pere Housh » Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:25 pm

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Neanderthaland wrote:Yeesh. Someone needs to get laid.

If only solving people's hatred was as simple as that...

There's always going to be hate in this world.
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