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Postby Gagium » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:00 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Gagium wrote:Oppressed in modern America? Not necessarily, definitely in the Middle East and third world though...One cannot be compared to an actual mental condition though for holding disgusting opinions when clearly not actually being retarded/stupid.

Retard is used as a insult calling someone stupid we don't need a fucking argument over this it's bullshit everyone says it all the time, jesus christ. I am autistic so the term was used to harass me too but I understand context. Get over it.

Calling clearly non-retarded and people who aren’t “stupid” retard is fine because other people do it “all the time”

Surely racism/slavery in the 1860’s south was fine then as well? People did it all the time!
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Postby Gagium » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:02 pm

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Gagium wrote:Oppressed in modern America? Not necessarily, definitely in the Middle East and third world though...One cannot be compared to an actual mental condition though for holding disgusting opinions when clearly not actually being retarded/stupid.


Not to agree with the guy throwing around a slur (it boggles the mind how that's still allowed here) but LGBT people are still very much oppressed in modern America, especially in the place this guy's from.

Depends on what you mean by oppressed. There are plenty of people who practice hatred/homophobia or prejudice against LGBTQ+, I wouldn’t call it oppression though. Something that needs to be abolished to the best of our ability nevertheless
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Postby Gagium » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:02 pm

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Gagium wrote:Calling clearly non-retarded and people who aren’t “stupid” retard is fine because other people do it “all the time”

Surely racism/slavery in the 1860’s south was fine then as well? People did it all the time!

Not nearly the same equivalency. Grow up let it go move on.

Thanks for the well thought out reply.
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Postby Salus Maior » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:03 pm

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1.So, NSG, what do you think? What is there to say about people who continue to not only believe these things about LGBT but continue to speak them out loudly and proudly for all to hear? Do you think this is hate speech or that what he's said is acceptable behavior?

2.I personally think people like this man are absolutely horrible people and don't deserve respect that basic human beings deserve. I believe they're constantly spewing hate speech that the public is better off not having to bother listening to, it's a burden on all of us to have to hear people like him.


1. I don't think what he's said is acceptable (or really in the Christian spirit at all), but he has a right to say it. Free Speech and all that.

2. Of course, ironically, the only reason we're listening to anything this backwater pastor is saying is because it's being posting on the internet by outrage outlets like here.
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Postby The Rich Port » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:06 pm

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1.So, NSG, what do you think? What is there to say about people who continue to not only believe these things about LGBT but continue to speak them out loudly and proudly for all to hear? Do you think this is hate speech or that what he's said is acceptable behavior?

2.I personally think people like this man are absolutely horrible people and don't deserve respect that basic human beings deserve. I believe they're constantly spewing hate speech that the public is better off not having to bother listening to, it's a burden on all of us to have to hear people like him.


1. I don't think what he's said is acceptable (or really in the Christian spirit at all), but he has a right to say it. Free Speech and all that.

2. Of course, ironically, the only reason we're listening to anything this backwater pastor is saying is because it's being posting on the internet by outrage outlets like here.


I'm sure that's going to be considered when his bosses shit-can him and/or throw him in jail for being a tabloid queen/being a hypocrite. :roll:

I don't think his bosses heard about it through "outrage outlets". Well, unless you consider the priest as an outrage outlet himself.
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Postby Gagium » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:07 pm

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Gagium wrote:Thanks for the well thought out reply.

I don't want one I want this bs argument done with to focus on attacking the piece of shit who is for killing people.

So back off.

The guy claimed that he wasn’t trying to advocate violence, rather preach the Bible..which, to our dismay, DOES include stuff like what he mentioned. Disgusting of course, and he shouldn’t be supporting it nor preaching it, but first amendment and the like.

Again, amazing how there’s a whole thread with people like you attacking a “piece of shit” you’ve never personally met nor heard of until this article was posted here!

Maybe don’t call random people ‘retard’ though if you don’t want to be called out for it.
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Postby Inkopolitia » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:08 pm

The United-Federation wrote:And Conservatives wonder why they aren't liked.

Weew, what a generalization.

As for the thread itself, I know that it's a minority of Catholics who are like this. I'm atheist, by the way.
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Postby Salus Maior » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:08 pm

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Salus Maior wrote:
1. I don't think what he's said is acceptable (or really in the Christian spirit at all), but he has a right to say it. Free Speech and all that.

2. Of course, ironically, the only reason we're listening to anything this backwater pastor is saying is because it's being posting on the internet by outrage outlets like here.


I'm sure that's going to be considered when his bosses shit-can him and/or throw him in jail for being a tabloid queen/being a hypocrite. :roll:

I don't think his bosses heard about it through "outrage outlets". Well, unless you consider the priest as an outrage outlet himself.


He's probably self-employed considering he's a Pastor.

And also he's not a Priest.
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Postby Salus Maior » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:09 pm

Inkopolitia wrote:
The United-Federation wrote:And Conservatives wonder why they aren't liked.

Weew, what a generalization.

As for the thread itself, I know that it's a minority of Catholics who are like this. I'm atheist, by the way.


The guy in question is a Baptist.
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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:09 pm

Wonder if his church is part of the NIFB
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Postby Torrocca » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:10 pm

Gagium wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:I don't want one I want this bs argument done with to focus on attacking the piece of shit who is for killing people.

So back off.

The guy claimed that he wasn’t trying to advocate violence, rather preach the Bible..which, to our dismay, DOES include stuff like what he mentioned. Disgusting of course, and he shouldn’t be supporting it nor preaching it, but first amendment and the like.

Again, amazing how there’s a whole thread with people like you attacking a “piece of shit” you’ve never personally met nor heard of until this article was posted here!

Maybe don’t call random people ‘retard’ though if you don’t want to be called out for it.


This pastor's not a "piece of shit". He's a piece of shit, full-stop.

Although using "retard" as a descriptor's pretty fucky in general ngl, regardless of this aforementioned piece of shit's desires for murdering LGBTQ+ people; that doesn't make this pastor any less a piece of shit.
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Postby Kombinita Socialisma Demokratio » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:12 pm

Am I the only one who is not surprised? This is a relatively common belief in the rural Bible belt. I have heard a man who claimed to "love the gays" while simultaneously considering it self defence to stab someone for acting/appearing gay and being near. I fear what he would do if he claimed admitted to hating lgbt people and practised what he preached. Of course, many people here do not know what lgbt labels mean... Any millennial who does not fit the mould perfectly could be called extremely gay whilst kissing their opposite-sex cousin in the rural Bible belt (at least by the fundamentalist third of the population).

The same man who made that claim while considering it self defence to stab lgbt people also claimed all sins were equally evil, but also said that it would be better to be an unrepentant heterosexual nymphomaniac than to ever be tempted to "adopt the homosexual lifestyle", and that it was never justified to lie to try to save a life (only to save the USA), but it was justified to execute shoplifters and lgbtqia+ people.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:13 pm

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Postby The Rich Port » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:13 pm

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I'm sure that's going to be considered when his bosses shit-can him and/or throw him in jail for being a tabloid queen/being a hypocrite. :roll:

I don't think his bosses heard about it through "outrage outlets". Well, unless you consider the priest as an outrage outlet himself.


He's probably self-employed considering he's a Pastor.

And also he's not a Priest.


... It says in the article he was considering early retirement from the Sheriff's department, and that there's a huge kerfuffle specifically because his case history is under review. Did you bother to read the article?

What's the official title, religious charlatan? :roll:

Priest and pastor are used interchangeably sometimes, don't be pedantic.
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Postby Lazarene Ryccia » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:15 pm

Hope the guy gets arrested for inciting violence.

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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:15 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote::blink:

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Only difference between this and what some Islamic countries are doing is that those countries are actually doing the executions while this guy is simply calling for them.
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The United-Federation wrote:And Conservatives wonder why they aren't liked.

Yes we actually do :eyebrow:
Well, the one's who don't Say this kind of stuff but get lumped into one bucket do.
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Trollzyn the Infinite calls for Tennessee Pastor to be relieved of his status as a law enforcement officer, jailed for inciting violence, and excommunicated for un-Christian behavior.
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Postby The Free Joy State » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:24 pm

Neutraligon wrote:Wonder if his church is part of the NIFB

That was my first thought, funnily enough.

As for his actual comments, disgusting. Especially from someone paid to uphold the actual law, not his interpretation based on one line of Leviticus (and, as always, I wonder how literally he takes the rest -- in the type of churches that it sounds like his may be they seem to hone in on the misogyny and anti-LGBT+ verses and overlook anything that they worry might pertain to themselves).
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Neutraligon wrote:Wonder if his church is part of the NIFB

That was my first thought, funnily enough.

As for his actual comments, disgusting. Especially from someone paid to uphold the actual law, not his interpretation based on one line of Leviticus (and, as always, I wonder how literally he takes the rest).

What's funnier is that Christians don't have to uphold OT law anymore (Christians correct me if I'm wrong pls)
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... It says in the article he was considering early retirement from the Sheriff's department, and that there's a huge kerfuffle specifically because his case history is under review. Did you bother to read the article?

What's the official title, religious charlatan? :roll:

Priest and pastor are used interchangeably sometimes, don't be pedantic.


Well, I didn't read the article until now. Obviously I would agree that he's not fit for the service of public protection.

The official title is Pastor. Like it says in the very title of this thread and throughout the source. Baptists outright reject the Priesthood which is a Sacramental and traditional institution of ordained Church leadership. The Baptist Pastor is more or less some guy who picked up a Bible and decided he could lead a community (sometimes with or without formal theological education). It's fundamentally different.
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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
The Free Joy State wrote:That was my first thought, funnily enough.

As for his actual comments, disgusting. Especially from someone paid to uphold the actual law, not his interpretation based on one line of Leviticus (and, as always, I wonder how literally he takes the rest).

What's funnier is that Christians don't have to uphold OT law anymore (Christians correct me if I'm wrong pls)


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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:26 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
The Free Joy State wrote:That was my first thought, funnily enough.

As for his actual comments, disgusting. Especially from someone paid to uphold the actual law, not his interpretation based on one line of Leviticus (and, as always, I wonder how literally he takes the rest).

What's funnier is that Christians don't have to uphold OT law anymore (Christians correct me if I'm wrong pls)

Depends on the sect of Christianity from what I understand. After all the 10 commandments are Old Testament.
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Postby The Rich Port » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:27 pm

The Free Joy State wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Wonder if his church is part of the NIFB

That was my first thought, funnily enough.

As for his actual comments, disgusting. Especially from someone paid to uphold the actual law, not his interpretation based on one line of Leviticus (and, as always, I wonder how literally he takes the rest -- in the type of churches that it sounds like his may be they seem to hone in on the misogyny and anti-LGBT+ verses and overlook anything that they worry might pertain to themselves).


The guy's timing couldn't be worse, either.

He decided to come out at a time when the integrity of the entire law enforcement professional field is under doubt and scrutiny by the public.

End of the day, though, we'll have to wait on the preliminary investigations.
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Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:What's funnier is that Christians don't have to uphold OT law anymore (Christians correct me if I'm wrong pls)


No, you're right. OT is for Jews; NT is for Christians.

So Jews would have to uphold this and other OT laws?
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