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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:05 pm

Samudera Darussalam wrote:
Heloin wrote:We stopped doing it because we got indoor plumbing. Open sewage in the streets was and still is a city health nightmare that helps facilitate the spread of disease. Arguing for a return to that would be like arguing that people shouldn't get vacinn- oh wait...

^ This

Not to mention that.....appetite tends to go out the window if you meet a scene like that.

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Postby Pleasure » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:06 pm

Greater Korean Juche Republic wrote:This is.... contrary to centuries of societal development and standards. I think any normal person can have a basic concept as to why you don't sh*t on the street or in the park.


which is why a chose this topic- because it's so taboo. it is still confined within pg-13 no need to report this. tons of pg movies talk about feces. and no, up to a billion ppl world wide used to take part in such activities in statistics shows in 2010, search it up, in developing nations

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Postby Brightlake » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:06 pm

most human now live in metropolitan area with high density. Doing your business not in proper way (transferred to sewage system or other kind of processing eg. composting) in such close proximity will attract bugs, make smell pollution, increasing rate of diseases widespread especially in tropical area, & be a suitable nutrient for bacteria to growth and then polluting open water & clean water system.

I also open with new ideas since so much human now and more in the future, if faeces sludge could be utilized to support more sustainable food producing/ energy producing. I know one professor that collected faeces sludge and sterilized it with gamma irradiation. Sterile sludge then used as fish feed (tilapia). From sensory test & everything, tilapia that fed with faeces has better taste & sensory qualities and also more cost effective. Maybe researches like this could be push to utilize any waste not only faeces to produce biogas or food.

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Postby Le Slavador » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:07 pm

We can. We just choose not to in order to promote sanitation and class.

Indoor plumbing is a blessing to mankind.
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Postby Pleasure » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:07 pm

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i should have included "in 1st world developed societies"

We stopped doing it because we got indoor plumbing. Open sewage in the streets was and still is a city health nightmare that helps facilitate the spread of disease. Arguing for a return to that would be like arguing that people shouldn't get vacinn- oh wait...


IN NATURE. will not spread disease. did not say on the sidewalk. unless you don't know what nature means.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:08 pm

Pleasure wrote:
Heloin wrote:We stopped doing it because we got indoor plumbing. Open sewage in the streets was and still is a city health nightmare that helps facilitate the spread of disease. Arguing for a return to that would be like arguing that people shouldn't get vacinn- oh wait...


IN NATURE. will not spread disease. did not say on the sidewalk. unless you don't know what nature means.

Well then we already do that. For example, when ou go on a hiking trail you just go right there in the woods (off the beaten path obviously).
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Postby Neanderthaland » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:09 pm

Pleasure wrote:
Heloin wrote:We stopped doing it because we got indoor plumbing. Open sewage in the streets was and still is a city health nightmare that helps facilitate the spread of disease. Arguing for a return to that would be like arguing that people shouldn't get vacinn- oh wait...


IN NATURE. will not spread disease. did not say on the sidewalk. unless you don't know what nature means.

IN NATURE that's literally how most intestinal parasites pass themselves on.
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Postby Heloin » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:09 pm

Pleasure wrote:
Greater Korean Juche Republic wrote:This is.... contrary to centuries of societal development and standards. I think any normal person can have a basic concept as to why you don't sh*t on the street or in the park.


which is why a chose this topic- because it's so taboo. it is still confined within pg-13 no need to report this. tons of pg movies talk about feces. and no, up to a billion ppl world wide used to take part in such activities in statistics shows in 2010, search it up, in developing nations

Choosing a topic because it's "taboo" is a petter weak reason matey.

Places where people do it don't have running water and sewage systems set up for poorer sections of a population. One of the campaign slogans in India a few years back was "A toilet in every house".

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Postby Brightlake » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:10 pm

Pleasure wrote:
Greater Korean Juche Republic wrote:This is.... contrary to centuries of societal development and standards. I think any normal person can have a basic concept as to why you don't sh*t on the street or in the park.


which is why a chose this topic- because it's so taboo. it is still confined within pg-13 no need to report this. tons of pg movies talk about feces. and no, up to a billion ppl world wide used to take part in such activities in statistics shows in 2010, search it up, in developing nations


For me personally nothing taboo since everything good or bad is come from perspective / way of thinking of specific person but could you imagine if you live in NYC then in hot summer your neighbours just defecate in front of the flat and provide you with the smell anywhere from the lobby to your flat.

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Postby Greater Korean Juche Republic » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:10 pm

Pleasure wrote:
Kombinita Socialisma Demokratio wrote:A combination of sanitation and social taboo (almost entirely taboo) prevents this.
The only reason I see to discourage is sanitation.





Hence the substitution of psychedelic mushrooms for tp.

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no sanitation issues if it decays into nature? in nature again, i agree sanitation is an issue if in like a public building



See **any** epidemic brought on by densely populated areas and low sanitation quality. It doesn't matter if it was in the streets of a major city or a reserved section in a park. It decays into nature yes, but say your opinion or projected thoughts work. Everyone has the total freedom to defecate in natural areas. Unless you're paying someone to be a literal poopscooper in that area (which is humiliating in all regards given it's human fecal matter), in many cities or towns even, there's no way such a reserve can handle the people who choose to go out and do this anywhere from 1-2 times every other day without quite literally overspilling.

Another issue is convenience. I don't even have to argue why you shouldn't be allowed to crap on the streets or your front lawn or in the front of a building. That's unsanitary, scarring to children (raised in a first world environment who haven't acclimated to it), an eyesore, and contradictory to so much development of a human race. We're not talking an outhouse or a hole, but out in the world. Onto the topic of convenience. Are you really going to spare running all the way to this hypothetical reserve when you have to go? The toilet is just down the hallway, and in many cases much closer than even the backyard. Whether it be an "emergency" or a matter of laziness, many wouldn't want to waste those few seconds.
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Postby Heloin » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:11 pm

Pleasure wrote:
Heloin wrote:We stopped doing it because we got indoor plumbing. Open sewage in the streets was and still is a city health nightmare that helps facilitate the spread of disease. Arguing for a return to that would be like arguing that people shouldn't get vacinn- oh wait...


IN NATURE. will not spread disease. did not say on the sidewalk. unless you don't know what nature means.

In nature about half of human children born live past the age of 5.
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Postby Greater Korean Juche Republic » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:12 pm

Heloin wrote:
Pleasure wrote:
i should have included "in 1st world developed societies"

Arguing for a return to that would be like arguing that people shouldn't get vacinn- oh wait...



AND I- OOP!
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Postby Brightlake » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:12 pm

Pleasure wrote:
Heloin wrote:We stopped doing it because we got indoor plumbing. Open sewage in the streets was and still is a city health nightmare that helps facilitate the spread of disease. Arguing for a return to that would be like arguing that people shouldn't get vacinn- oh wait...


IN NATURE. will not spread disease. did not say on the sidewalk. unless you don't know what nature means.


If it is in forest then it is your personal business, but from what I know people who hike bring their own poo bag since defecating may attract animals & things. If you defecate then bury it then no problem I thought.

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Postby Bluelight-R006 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:12 pm

No, no. If humans are much more superior, top of the food chain, as you may say, we should be able to defecate more orderly, and not in nature.

And there would be bound to be humans who take picture of other naked humans and post it online. Come on, privacy exists to protect humans from other humans.

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Postby Le Slavador » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:14 pm

Bluelight-R006 wrote:No, no. If humans are much more superior, top of the food chain, as you may say, we should be able to defecate more orderly, and not in nature.

And there would be bound to be humans who take picture of other naked humans and post it online. Come on, privacy exists to protect humans from other humans.

I agree! We have dignity!
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:15 pm

Bluelight-R006 wrote:No, no. If humans are much more superior, top of the food chain, as you may say, we should be able to defecate more orderly, and not in nature.

And there would be bound to be humans who take picture of other naked humans and post it online. Come on, privacy exists to protect humans from other humans.

They literally said that the activity itself is an entertainment.

i quite disagree. some groups of men find it to be great entertainment having defecation contests, seeing who can defecate (in nature of course not on the floor) the most. it can definitely be fun.


Human dignity doesn't rule there.

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Postby Pleasure » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:16 pm

Le Slavador wrote:
Bluelight-R006 wrote:No, no. If humans are much more superior, top of the food chain, as you may say, we should be able to defecate more orderly, and not in nature.

And there would be bound to be humans who take picture of other naked humans and post it online. Come on, privacy exists to protect humans from other humans.

I agree! We have dignity!


but people who would do it would do so willingly. and dignity is overrated and subjective. it's like saying mothers can't breastfeed in public bc of dignity. those mothers don't feel that way

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:20 pm

Pleasure wrote:and dignity is overrated and subjective

Welp, lemme just walk to the store naked and shouting obscenities everywhere, not giving a crap about my body odor, disheveled hair and whatnot. Lemme be just near the line of legality of flirting, let's just smoke poop and drink blood, why don't we? Let's disrespect literally everyone and shout "Heil Hitler!" everywhere. Let's have sex literally out in the open for all to see. Since human dignity doesn't actually mean anything.
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Postby Pleasure » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:20 pm

Brightlake wrote:most human now live in metropolitan area with high density. Doing your business not in proper way (transferred to sewage system or other kind of processing eg. composting) in such close proximity will attract bugs, make smell pollution, increasing rate of diseases widespread especially in tropical area, & be a suitable nutrient for bacteria to growth and then polluting open water & clean water system.

I also open with new ideas since so much human now and more in the future, if faeces sludge could be utilized to support more sustainable food producing/ energy producing. I know one professor that collected faeces sludge and sterilized it with gamma irradiation. Sterile sludge then used as fish feed (tilapia). From sensory test & everything, tilapia that fed with faeces has better taste & sensory qualities and also more cost effective. Maybe researches like this could be push to utilize any waste not only faeces to produce biogas or food.


true, but that's only if everyone were to defecate outside. i'm talking about just the right to do it publicly, which would never actually manifest itself with all of society. toilet use would be predominant, outside can be done by teens for fun, if in an emergency, or as a prank. several other methods are used as pranks, this could just be made a legal one for example, there are so many other uses.

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Postby Le Slavador » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:20 pm

Pleasure wrote:
Le Slavador wrote:I agree! We have dignity!


but people who would do it would do so willingly. and dignity is overrated and subjective. it's like saying mothers can't breastfeed in public bc of dignity. those mothers don't feel that way

Breastfeeding is a different matter from defecating in the wild.
If they are willing to do #2 outside the loo, let them be; they just can't insist that it is the way it should be, capisce?
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Postby Borovan entered the region as he » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:22 pm

Ur actually suggesting this? While I need to go bathroom badly pooping on the sidewalk is illegal and causes an ugly embarrassing sight. It's fucking disgusting.

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Postby Pleasure » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:23 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Pleasure wrote:and dignity is overrated and subjective

Welp, lemme just walk to the store naked and shouting obscenities everywhere, not giving a crap about my body odor, disheveled hair and whatnot. Lemme be just near the line of legality of flirting, let's just smoke poop and drink blood, why don't we? Since human dignity doesn't actually mean anything.


why not? people in nudist communities do, live in an urban area you'll find that. tons of ppl again in urban areas don't. again same as before homeless and poor ppl dont. smoking feces is not actually physically possible. ppl do drink blood in fact

i personally? have no problems with any of these.

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Postby Pacomia » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:23 pm

You know, I think most people would disagree, and I’m probably about to yelled at for all of eternity, but I think that this is an okay idea, if there were designated defecation places. I know this is sort of not what OP was talking about, but I think that public defecation on its own isn’t the bad thing, it’s public defecation in cities and settled areas. If designated defecation zones were made in cities, it would be fine by me, as long there was thought put into its location.

This may just be because I happen to live near a place where there’s lots of poop lying around, and not all of it is necessarily from animals.
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:23 pm

true, but that's only if everyone were to defecate outside. i'm talking about just the right to do it publicly, which would never actually manifest itself with all of society. toilet use would be predominant, outside can be done by teens for fun, if in an emergency, or as a prank. several other methods are used as pranks, this could just be made a legal one for example, there are so many other uses.


......so, throwing poop everywhere is a good prank?
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Postby Pleasure » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:24 pm

Borovan entered the region as he wrote:Ur actually suggesting this? While I need to go bathroom badly pooping on the sidewalk is illegal and causes an ugly embarrassing sight. It's fucking disgusting.


again in nature, and this is discussing the morality/ethics saying its illegal is not a reason. so many people do so many other things that are disgusting. that's opinion. don't wanna see it, dont look

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