Bibles in Hotel Rooms

[Hediacrana]

It wouldn't be that outrageous to consider the Gospel of Matthew an antisemitic book.

John is the one that's more notorious for that. In any case, it's always worth pointing out that both of those, like every other book in the Bible, were written by Jews, which is why antisemites using the Bible to back up their claims are just about as silly as claims that the Bible is inherently antisemitic.

[Rhodesia-Zimbabwe]

One of my friends moved a long ways away. I visited him for a bonfire party he was throwing and chucked the hotel bible into it.

[Loben The 2nd]

One of my friends moved a long ways away. I visited him for a bonfire party he was throwing and chucked the hotel bible into it.

That’s horrible.

[Neanderthaland]

It wouldn't be that outrageous to consider the Gospel of Matthew an antisemitic book.

John is the one that's more notorious for that. In any case, it's always worth pointing out that both of those, like every other book in the Bible, were written by Jews, which is why antisemites using the Bible to back up their claims are just about as silly as claims that the Bible is inherently antisemitic.

Well they're written in Greek, and in some cases well after Jesus' death. So it's not entirely clear that that's true. There's also debate as to whether things like the blood curse may have been edited in by explicitly antisemitic Christians. In any case, it is absolutely true that these documents have been used to justify persecution, and murder of Jews.

[Farnhamia]

One of my friends moved a long ways away. I visited him for a bonfire party he was throwing and chucked the hotel bible into it.

That's nice. Don't post baity statements, okay?

[Kannap]

Refreshingly honest.

Still don’t understand the anti Christian attitude at times.

This is where I feel the need to point out I'm not anti-Christian.

[San Lumen]

What has this become? Can we get back on topic please?

[Kombinita Socialisma Demokratio]

That does not explain how simply putting a bible or any holy book in an hotel room is forcing a religion onto someone.

Because most of the time the people who do it don’t ask for permission and just put Bibles there. I don’t want a bible where I’m just trying to relax. It’s annoying.

And like I said before it’s evangelization. Which is basically the act of waving your dick in everyone’s face. Some of us don’t want to see the damn dick

I am religious, but consider it to be well within the extent of freedom of/from religion to require people proselytizing to at least ask permission before beginning religious promotion.

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It’s evangelization. The people who put the books there would have a freak fest if a Muslim or Jewish Group did the same. They’d claim they where forcing their religion on them. All I’m doing is saying that you can’t put any in

I don't think they'd care tbh. I don't think they even particularly care what happens to the bibles themselves.

Actually, I Gideon I know wants only want religious freedom for Judeo-Christians (of course, they may not be representative of Gideons, because the sample is not random and is only one).

[Bluelight-R006]

What has this become? Can we get back on topic please?

Exactly — they could make another thread, but threads eventually evolves into religious debates.

And yes, we can get back on topic. While I personally find that the Gideon is one of the only group of associations giving out the Bible, I think it would be fair, to reduce the printing work, for hotels to have a small library where guests can take home books given free. These religious books come from the major religions at least, and there won’t be a need to place them in every hotel.

And Bibles in Hotel Rooms are okay. It’s up to the Hotel management to decide whether to take out Bibles or accept them in the first place. As long as they have a certain number on complains on them, they will take it out when see fit. But one person doesn’t have all the power to decide what can be put in or not, so deal with it when you see a Bible and it offends you, after all, if you hate it, it doesn’t deserve your attention, right? Or complain to them, and not NSG. Maybe you will get hope.

[San Lumen]

What has this become? Can we get back on topic please?

Exactly — they could make another thread, but threads eventually evolves into religious debates.

And yes, we can get back on topic. While I personally find that the Gideon is one of the only group of associations giving out the Bible, I think it would be fair, to reduce the printing work, for hotels to have a small library where guests can take home books given free. These religious books come from the major religions at least, and there won’t be a need to place them in every hotel.

And Bibles in Hotel Rooms are okay. It’s up to the Hotel management to decide whether to take out Bibles or accept them in the first place. As long as they have a certain number on complains on them, they will take it out when see fit. But one person doesn’t have all the power to decide what can be put in or not, so deal with it when you see a Bible and it offends you, after all, if you hate it, it doesn’t deserve your attention, right? Or complain to them, and not NSG. Maybe you will get hope.

Some hotels do have libraries.

If the hotel wants to accept the gift from the Gideons that is their right and if they choose not to that is also their right.

I doubt they have had much complaints. It is your right to not look at the book. Most of the time its not in plain sight its place in the nightstand or end table by the bed. When i go to a hotel I like to look in the nightstand to see if one is there and more often than not I flip through it for a little bit.

[New Waldensia]

I'm too lazy to read through the 10-15 pages posted today, but I did notice a misconception by quite a few posters about the Gideons and Bible placement in hotels.

No, Gideons do not place Bibles in places without permission. They ask permission before leaving them on private property. Not every hotel gives permission. If not given permission, the Gideons don't leave Bibles there. Period, end of sentence.

[I was a Gideon for about three years, have friends that are still Gideons, and know this from direct experience]

[Australian rePublic]

Weren't the Bibles donated to hotels by a random Christian individual/organisation? And if so, then why should anyone object to that? For the same reason that noone would object to Bhudists donating copies of the Pali Canon, or Hindus donating copies of the Verdas, I don't see why anyone should oppose Christians donating Bibles. Don't hate the Christians just cause we did it first

[San Lumen]

I'm too lazy to read through the 10-15 pages posted today, but I did notice a misconception by quite a few posters about the Gideons and Bible placement in hotels.

No, Gideons do not place Bibles in places without permission. They ask permission before leaving them on private property. Not every hotel gives permission. If not given permission, the Gideons don't leave Bibles there. Period, end of sentence.

[I was a Gideon for about three years, have friends that are still Gideons, and know this from direct experience]

Do the Gideons themselves place the Bibles in the rooms or does the hotel staff do it?

[Bluelight-R006]

I'm too lazy to read through the 10-15 pages posted today, but I did notice a misconception by quite a few posters about the Gideons and Bible placement in hotels.

No, Gideons do not place Bibles in places without permission. They ask permission before leaving them on private property. Not every hotel gives permission. If not given permission, the Gideons don't leave Bibles there. Period, end of sentence.

[I was a Gideon for about three years, have friends that are still Gideons, and know this from direct experience]

Thank you for the account. It’s great to have some clarification. Because it would seem extremely stupid of the Gideons to go into every room and place a Bible in there when rejected.

[The Grims]

What has this become? Can we get back on topic please?

If it is important if a Bible is something that causes hurt if it is present in a hotelroom it is all ontopic.

Of course you would then also get hurt by the sight of dozens of churches in every western city, so learning to ignore it might be prudent.

[Australian rePublic]

What has this become? Can we get back on topic please?

If it is important if a Bible is something that causes hurt if it is present in a hotelroom it is all ontopic.

Of course you would then also get hurt by the sight of dozens of churches in every western city, so learning to ignore it might be prudent.

If you're offended by the number of places of worship in the west, then I would strongly advise against taking a trip to the Middle East...

[Mojave Confederation]

I was visiting Australia a few weeks ago and decided to stay at some student apartment (?) hotel and was amused when I found a bible in my room. I don't mind, of course, Muslim countries hotels also put Kiblat arrow on their room. For all I care, it's their right as the business owner to put whatever they want in their hotel, especially when it was done to facilitate their guests and didn't bother their privacy. It's not like they force me to hear a sermon or anything.

[Kernen]

Its a hypothetical. You can't argue that it isn't a real thing if its a hypothetical. It is, by definition, not real.

Well what if some equally unlikely hypothetical occurred.

The point of a hypothetical is not to test sufficiency of reality but the underlying principles at play. The bible and mein kampf are both books with hateful messages. As such, the hypo tests why one is acceptable while the other is not.

[Kernen]

Weren't the Bibles donated to hotels by a random Christian individual/organisation? And if so, then why should anyone object to that? For the same reason that noone would object to Bhudists donating copies of the Pali Canon, or Hindus donating copies of the Verdas, I don't see why anyone should oppose Christians donating Bibles. Don't hate the Christians just cause we did it first

In all of those circumstances I would return the book to the front desk. None of those books are books I'd care to sleep next to.

[The New California Republic]

Weren't the Bibles donated to hotels by a random Christian individual/organisation? And if so, then why should anyone object to that? For the same reason that noone would object to Bhudists donating copies of the Pali Canon, or Hindus donating copies of the Verdas, I don't see why anyone should oppose Christians donating Bibles. Don't hate the Christians just cause we did it first

In all of those circumstances I would return the book to the front desk. None of those books are books I'd care to sleep next to.

I also provide a service of removing Bibles from hotel rooms if you want?

[Rojava Free State]

If it is important if a Bible is something that causes hurt if it is present in a hotelroom it is all ontopic.

Of course you would then also get hurt by the sight of dozens of churches in every western city, so learning to ignore it might be prudent.

If you're offended by the number of places of worship in the west, then I would strongly advise against taking a trip to the Middle East...

The number of places of worship in America you mean. Europeans believe far far less in this ridiculous fairytale than Americans do

[Saiwania]

Do the Gideons themselves place the Bibles in the rooms or does the hotel staff do it?

The hotel staff doesn't do it because it'd be on their dime in some way. The Gideons probably do all the distributing of books to vacant rooms, because there was this picture of one placing a Bible where it'd be found. They're dressed in Black priest robes much like a Catholic would be or in a Black business suit.

[Ghosteria]

Why would anyone take them?

Free books.

Also, to remove easily flammable material, thus making the hotel a safer place for the next guest

This is bullshit seeing as paper burns at 451 F and that plywood/particle board dresser it's in burns at 400 F(unless exposed to direct flame. then it burns at 200 F).

[The Blaatschapen]

Free books.

Also, to remove easily flammable material, thus making the hotel a safer place for the next guest

This is bullshit seeing as paper burns at 451 F and that plywood/particle board dresser it's in burns at 400 F(unless exposed to direct flame. then it burns at 200 F).

Over here stuff has a burning point in degrees Celsius

[Free Arabian Nation]

This is bullshit seeing as paper burns at 451 F and that plywood/particle board dresser it's in burns at 400 F(unless exposed to direct flame. then it burns at 200 F).

Over here stuff has a burning point in degrees Celsius

232*C