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Do you support or object to Bibles in hotel rooms?

I support it
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I object
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I have no opinion
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35%
I support it but there should be other religious books too.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:21 pm

Geneviev wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I have a few dozen bibles that I have taken from hotel rooms across the world, in a variety of languages.

And no, I am not joking.

I don't know if I should be impressed or confused.

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To spite the Gideons and make their proselytisation more expensive.

Hopefully not.

Christianity is the biggest religion in the world. It's only fair to throw a few hurdles in their way.
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Postby Eglaecia » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:21 pm

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Eglaecia wrote:I would like it if they didn't use bad translations like KJV/NIV (the two I most commonly come across) though otherwise it doesn't matter. No one is being forced to read them (though it would do some of you a lot of good) and it has zero impact on your stay.


KJV is considered by a ton of people to be the best, most faithful English translation of the Bible that exists. The one main flaw against it, is that the English language it uses is a bit archaic because it was written in the 1600s. I'd say that there is a reason KJV is the most common translation of the Bible out there, or at least is the most common Bible in the US.

KJV has many shortcomings and the only reason I'm familiar with it is the KJV-onlyist nonsense my Baptist friends spout.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:22 pm

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KJV is considered by a ton of people to be the best, most faithful English translation of the Bible that exists. The one main flaw against it, is that the English language it uses is a bit archaic because it was written in the 1600s. I'd say that there is a reason KJV is the most common translation of the Bible out there, or at least is the most common in the US.

I like KJV for the archaic language.

The Ten Commandments are way less effective without the "Thou shalt not"s.
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Postby Geneviev » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:25 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Geneviev wrote:I don't know if I should be impressed or confused.


Hopefully not.

Christianity is the biggest religion in the world. It's only fair to throw a few hurdles in their way.

It shouldn't be fair to make this harder for people who are trying to do something good.
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Postby The Caleshan Valkyrie » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:25 pm

Good for a laugh, if nothing else.

Or emergency toilet paper. Those pages ARE quite soft.
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Postby New Rogernomics » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:26 pm

It is their private property. As long as half the room doesn't have hundreds of religious books stacked and impeding entry, I don't see an issue.
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Postby Scomagia » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:26 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Scomagia wrote:I like KJV for the archaic language.

The Ten Commandments are way less effective without the "Thou shalt not"s.

Plus, it's fun to hassle my wife with my dramatic KJV readings. :p
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Postby Quaeg » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:27 pm

I'd actually really like it if there was a range of religious texts in hotel rooms. I probably wouldn't read the bible, I was raised Christian so it's not really new to me, but if I saw the Zoroastrian Avesta then i'd sure as hell give that a gander.
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Postby Saiwania » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:28 pm

Eglaecia wrote:KJV has many shortcomings and the only reason I'm familiar with it is the KJV-onlyist nonsense my Baptist friends spout.


What translation would you recommend? Bear in mind, that an English only person can only choose from an English translation, but by definition it isn't going to be completely accurate to the source material which was in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek.

KJV is said to be very accurate by the standards of its day. NKJV is more or less an attempt to keep as much of the KJV intact as is possible, while modernizing the language so modern people can understand it better when reading it. But this arguably detracts from the "majestic" character KJV is said to have because it is very Shakespeare in style.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:29 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Christianity is the biggest religion in the world. It's only fair to throw a few hurdles in their way.

It shouldn't be fair to make this harder for people who are trying to do something good.

Is it good to inject Christianity into every aspect of public life?
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:30 pm

I'd prefer constitutions in hotel rooms tbh.
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Postby Geneviev » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:31 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Geneviev wrote:It shouldn't be fair to make this harder for people who are trying to do something good.

Is it good to inject Christianity into every aspect of public life?

It is good to give people Bibles, so they can hopefully become Christian. That doesn't mean any religion belongs in every aspect of public life.
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Postby Free Arabian Nation » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:32 pm

Don't care. It's their private property. They could put Fifty Shades of Grey if they wanted to.

Nothing is forcing the person to read, or even look at, that book.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:32 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:I'd prefer constitutions in hotel rooms tbh.

I rarely have cause to stay in hotel rooms, but a while ago my parents stayed in a room that came with a bottle of Veuve Clicquot.

Beats the hell out of a Bible.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:32 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Is it good to inject Christianity into every aspect of public life?

It is good to give people Bibles, so they can hopefully become Christian. That doesn't mean any religion belongs in every aspect of public life.


What is good about becoming Christian?
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Postby What doth thou meaneth » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:32 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:I'd prefer constitutions in hotel rooms tbh.

I second this.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:33 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Geneviev wrote:It shouldn't be fair to make this harder for people who are trying to do something good.

Is it good to inject Christianity into every aspect of public life?

1: Dude it's just a Bible in a drawer, calm down
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Postby Kannap » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:33 pm

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The library doesn't charge me $150 or more to get into the room they keep their Bibles.

Your point? That does not even come close to addressing my point so I have no idea what you are talking about.


You implied that it was silly to believe that going to a library would be easier than having a Bible in your hotel room.

I pointed out that the library is free, open to the public, and accessible almost every day of the week - a lot of people don't have the ability to afford a hotel room, meaning that the library actually does provide easier access to the Bible than any hotel.
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Postby Scomagia » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:34 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:I'd prefer constitutions in hotel rooms tbh.

Why not both?
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:34 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Is it good to inject Christianity into every aspect of public life?

It is good to give people Bibles, so they can hopefully become Christian.

I wouldn't say that becoming Christian is good.
That doesn't mean any religion belongs in every aspect of public life.

Then the Gideons can stick to distributing Bibles in churches.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:34 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Geneviev wrote:It shouldn't be fair to make this harder for people who are trying to do something good.

Is it good to inject Christianity into every aspect of public life?

whose making you read it?

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Postby Free Arabian Nation » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:36 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Is it good to inject Christianity into every aspect of public life?

whose making you read it?

No, clearly having a singular book in a room that probably hasn't been touched in 3 months is like having a television play Catholic propaganda for 3 hours straight
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Postby Camelone » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:36 pm

Kannap wrote:
Camelone wrote:Your point? That does not even come close to addressing my point so I have no idea what you are talking about.


You implied that it was silly to believe that going to a library would be easier than having a Bible in your hotel room.

I pointed out that the library is free, open to the public, and accessible almost every day of the week - a lot of people don't have the ability to afford a hotel room, meaning that the library actually does provide easier access to the Bible than any hotel.

But it was in the context of already having a hotel room because the discussion was around ease of access of having a Bible already in your hotel room or going to a library in an area you may not be so familiar with. See the silliness now when the proper context is applied?
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Postby Geneviev » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:37 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Geneviev wrote:It is good to give people Bibles, so they can hopefully become Christian.

I wouldn't say that becoming Christian is good.
That doesn't mean any religion belongs in every aspect of public life.

Then the Gideons can stick to distributing Bibles in churches.

The Bibles in hotel rooms are meant to help people as much as Bibles in churches. They should be allowed in hotel rooms too.
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Postby Scomagia » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:37 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Geneviev wrote:It is good to give people Bibles, so they can hopefully become Christian.

I wouldn't say that becoming Christian is good.
That doesn't mean any religion belongs in every aspect of public life.

Then the Gideons can stick to distributing Bibles in churches.

Or they can keep doing what they do and you can stop being asshurt about it.
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