Bibles in Hotel Rooms

[Kernen]

I dunno, they both seem equally hateful to me.

Mein Kampf, a book where the Jews are the bad guys and the non Jews are the good guys

The bible, a book where Jews are the good guys and non Jews are the bad guys

No matter which one you read, someone is being demonized and dehumanized

If one is ok, the other has to be ok to remain ideologically inconsistent.

If people don't want to be ideologically consistent, that's all well and good. Nobody has to be. But you hit the nail on the head.

[Hatterleigh]

That it's poetic violence and hate doesn't make it less than, y'know, hate. There's also the great ones about stoning homosexual men, allowing women to remain bound in slavery if they don't please their male masters, and a lot of killing unbelievers because how dare they?

Christianity treats transgender and homosexual people as second class citizens, and often treat women as badly. Its plenty hateful. My loved ones have scars, actual and poetical, from Biblicaly-generated hated.

The New Testament replaced some aspects of the law in the Old Testament, including the killing and all of that. I'm really sorry for Christians who believe that the Bible allows hatred. Those people misunderstand Christianity.

The anti-homosexual rules remain, the stoning is not an aspect anymore. And slavery was never part of the biblical story as we think of it today, because slavery of ancient, classical, and medieval cultures, specifically the Israelites, was nothing like slavery of the early modern era and beyond.

[Kannap]

I dunno, they both seem equally hateful to me.

Mein Kampf, a book where the Jews are the bad guys and the non Jews are the good guys

The bible, a book where Jews are the good guys and non Jews are the bad guys

No matter which one you read, someone is being demonized and dehumanized

Spoiler alert, the Jews kill Jesus - not really good guy behavior.

[Rojava Free State]

I dunno, they both seem equally hateful to me.

Mein Kampf is definitely hateful, but no religion is like that.

The ironic thing is that as you typed that, I bet some jihadist somewhere was beheading a person or committing a suicide bombing

[Kernen]

The New Testament replaced some aspects of the law in the Old Testament, including the killing and all of that. I'm really sorry for Christians who believe that the Bible allows hatred. Those people misunderstand Christianity.

The anti-homosexual rules remain, the stoning is not an aspect anymore. And slavery was never part of the biblical story as we think of it today, because slavery of ancient, classical, and medieval cultures, specifically the Israelites, was nothing like slavery of the early modern era and beyond.

It was still slavery.

That it wasn't rampant abuse makes it no less slavery.

I wouldn't want my offspring reading Mein Kampf. Nor either the Bible. Both for the same underlying reasons.

[Hatterleigh]

I dunno, they both seem equally hateful to me.

Mein Kampf, a book where the Jews are the bad guys and the non Jews are the good guys

The bible, a book where Jews are the good guys and non Jews are the bad guys

No matter which one you read, someone is being demonized and dehumanized

It's like you've never read the old testament. Y'know, when Jesus says that gentiles are not uncleanly or lowly? Sounds more like you're reading the Talmud. Also Mein Kampf doesn't hold any metaphysical meaning to anyone except for a tiny tiny group of people, not even a large percentage of people who like hitler, who think hitler was some sort of holy or divine figure.

[Rojava Free State]

Mein Kampf, a book where the Jews are the bad guys and the non Jews are the good guys

The bible, a book where Jews are the good guys and non Jews are the bad guys

No matter which one you read, someone is being demonized and dehumanized

Spoiler alert, the Jews kill Jesus - not really good guy behavior.

Correction: the bible is a book where the Jews are the good guys in the first part and then become bad guys when God decided to get some new friends.

Im honestly shocked with how judgemental and wrathful God is that he didn't end the bible by just blowing earth up and starting over

[Cekoviu]

Spoiler alert, the Jews kill Jesus - not really good guy behavior.

Correction: the bible is a book where the Jews are the good guys in the first part and then become bad guys when God decided to get some new friends.

Im honestly shocked with how judgemental and wrathful God is that he didn't end the bible by just blowing earth up and starting over

Maybe that actually is what's happening and it's just going very slowly.
Perhaps that's the actual cause of climate change rather than human idiocy as well. galaxybrain.jpeg

[Rojava Free State]

Mein Kampf, a book where the Jews are the bad guys and the non Jews are the good guys

The bible, a book where Jews are the good guys and non Jews are the bad guys

No matter which one you read, someone is being demonized and dehumanized

It's like you've never read the old testament. Y'know, when Jesus says that gentiles are not uncleanly or lowly? Sounds more like you're reading the Talmud. Also Mein Kampf doesn't hold any metaphysical meaning to anyone except for a tiny tiny group of people, not even a large percentage of people who like hitler, who think hitler was some sort of holy or divine figure.

First off Jesus is in the new testament and second off it sounds like you didn't read most of the bible which is about how God basically hates almost everyone and has no problem with killing children or supporting slavery or destroying whole cities of people.

[Rojava Free State]

Correction: the bible is a book where the Jews are the good guys in the first part and then become bad guys when God decided to get some new friends.

Im honestly shocked with how judgemental and wrathful God is that he didn't end the bible by just blowing earth up and starting over

Maybe that actually is what's happening and it's just going very slowly.
Perhaps that's the actual cause of climate change rather than human idiocy as well. galaxybrain.jpeg

More like universebrain.jpeg

[Neutraligon]

Spoiler alert, the Jews kill Jesus - not really good guy behavior.

Correction: the bible is a book where the Jews are the good guys in the first part and then become bad guys when God decided to get some new friends.

Im honestly shocked with how judgemental and wrathful God is that he didn't end the bible by just blowing earth up and starting over

What do you think Armageddon is. Oh I forgot the biggest genocide of them all, that damned flood. The ot contains a shit ton of genocides, and include the Egyptians because they where targeted by more then just the 10th plague.

To the person who said god gave like a million earnings, so did the nazis before they started the final solution. What do you think krystalnacht was? The Bible is a book that can easily be compared to me in kampf, so would those who are defending the Bible being there also defend me in kampf being there?

[Hatterleigh]

The anti-homosexual rules remain, the stoning is not an aspect anymore. And slavery was never part of the biblical story as we think of it today, because slavery of ancient, classical, and medieval cultures, specifically the Israelites, was nothing like slavery of the early modern era and beyond.

It was still slavery.

That it wasn't rampant abuse makes it no less slavery.

I don't care. Throw around a word all you want, I could really care less. It was no where near the most brutal part of the ancient world, and there was no way you could stop people from doing it. Most of the articles discussing slavery are civil laws for israel.

[Geneviev]

The New Testament replaced some aspects of the law in the Old Testament, including the killing and all of that. I'm really sorry for Christians who believe that the Bible allows hatred. Those people misunderstand Christianity.

And yet it happened under the banner of your god.

Claiming that christians who do bad things don't understand christianity is a hell of a No True Scotsman cop-out. They read the same book you do and they get these "misunderstood" interpretations. Consistently. And you're gonna tell me that book has squat to do with it?

I'll call that bluff.

It's based on an incorrect interpretation of the Bible. The more hateful Christians take some verses out of context to convince other Christians that they are right. That's not a problem with the Bible or with Christianity, but with certain Christians. You could not say that Mein Kampf has any purpose other than inciting hate, which makes it a completely different book that should not be in hotel rooms.

[Kernen]

And yet it happened under the banner of your god.

Claiming that christians who do bad things don't understand christianity is a hell of a No True Scotsman cop-out. They read the same book you do and they get these "misunderstood" interpretations. Consistently. And you're gonna tell me that book has squat to do with it?

I'll call that bluff.

It's based on an incorrect interpretation of the Bible. The more hateful Christians take some verses out of context to convince other Christians that they are right. That's not a problem with the Bible or with Christianity, but with certain Christians. You could not say that Mein Kampf has any purpose other than inciting hate, which makes it a completely different book that should not be in hotel rooms.

We can play this game. The death camps weren't Nazism's fault, just certain Nazis who took an incorrect interpretation of the final solution.

Fucking hell, you can't write off the religion's role in the bad actor's crimes.

[Hatterleigh]

It's like you've never read the old testament. Y'know, when Jesus says that gentiles are not uncleanly or lowly? Sounds more like you're reading the Talmud. Also Mein Kampf doesn't hold any metaphysical meaning to anyone except for a tiny tiny group of people, not even a large percentage of people who like hitler, who think hitler was some sort of holy or divine figure.

First off Jesus is in the new testament and second off it sounds like you didn't read most of the bible which is about how God basically hates almost everyone and has no problem with killing children or supporting slavery or destroying whole cities of people.

He doesn't support slavery, he knew only that the people of Judea would not stop doing it no matter what laws were made in the bible. Also yes I meant new testament. God's wrath was not done out of recklessness, but because he saw a world of incredible evil and sin that would have destroyed any sense of god hadn't he been violent. It's like MCU Thanos. They thought he was a madman for his brutal plan but when he didn't do it they all died. Whether you think such a plan is the only way or would actually work is irrelevant, that's not part of the metaphor. Also why does any of this even matter to you? Under the assumption that you're an atheist, isn't morality relative?

[Hatterleigh]

It's based on an incorrect interpretation of the Bible. The more hateful Christians take some verses out of context to convince other Christians that they are right. That's not a problem with the Bible or with Christianity, but with certain Christians. You could not say that Mein Kampf has any purpose other than inciting hate, which makes it a completely different book that should not be in hotel rooms.

We can play this game. The death camps weren't Nazism's fault, just certain Nazis who took an incorrect interpretation of the final solution.

Fucking hell, you can't write off the religion's role in the bad actor's crimes.

Well, death camps weren't necessarily Nazism's fault. It is not part of the tenets of national socialist ideology that you have to kill jews. The final solution was hitlers idea, it didn't just appear over a period of growing nazi ideology

[Neanderthaland]

I dunno, they both seem equally hateful to me.

Mein Kampf is definitely hateful, but no religion is like that.

That's right, all religions are just sunshine and rainbows. Now help me hold this guy down while I cut out his still-beating heart to appease Tezcatlipoca.

[Kannap]

Mein Kampf is definitely hateful, but no religion is like that.

That's right, all religions are just sunshine and rainbows. Now help me hold this guy down while I cut out his still-beating heart to appease Tezcatlipoca.

Also to note there are two threads in this very forum discussing where two Christian men - one a mayor and the other a pastor/cop - in the States in recent have publicly called for the execution/killing of LGBT people. I'd call that hateful behavior.

[Loben The 2nd]

That's right, all religions are just sunshine and rainbows. Now help me hold this guy down while I cut out his still-beating heart to appease Tezcatlipoca.

Also to note there are two threads in this very forum discussing where two Christian men - one a mayor and the other a pastor/cop - in the States in recent have publicly called for the execution/killing of LGBT people. I'd call that hateful behavior.

Yes and Christianity is just as bad, if not worse then nazism. Totally.

[Kannap]

Also to note there are two threads in this very forum discussing where two Christian men - one a mayor and the other a pastor/cop - in the States in recent have publicly called for the execution/killing of LGBT people. I'd call that hateful behavior.

Yes and Christianity is just as bad, if not worse then nazism. Totally.

Feel free to point out where I said that.

[Loben The 2nd]

Yes and Christianity is just as bad, if not worse then nazism. Totally.

Feel free to point out where I said that.

I’ll point out I was being a facetious prick.

[Neanderthaland]

Also to note there are two threads in this very forum discussing where two Christian men - one a mayor and the other a pastor/cop - in the States in recent have publicly called for the execution/killing of LGBT people. I'd call that hateful behavior.

Yes and Christianity is just as bad, if not worse then nazism. Totally.

Well it is where the idea of the blood curse comes from. The Nazis didn't invent charges of deicide against the Jewish people. And they were held as Catholic doctrine until 1962. It wouldn't be that outrageous to consider the Gospel of Matthew an antisemitic book.

EDIT: I don't, by the way. But if a Jew did, I wouldn't argue the point.

[Aclion]

I was referring to Mein Kampf not the Bible.

Its a hypothetical. You can't argue that it isn't a real thing if its a hypothetical. It is, by definition, not real.

Well what if some equally unlikely hypothetical occurred.

[Cekoviu]

Feel free to point out where I said that.

I’ll point out I was being a facetious prick.

Refreshingly honest.

[Loben The 2nd]

I’ll point out I was being a facetious prick.

Refreshingly honest.

Still don’t understand the anti Christian attitude at times.