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by Alvecia » Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:30 pm
by Farnhamia » Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:34 pm
Dogmeat wrote:Brittany Normandy Aquitaine wrote:Also Christianity is the majority religion in the United States, probably every 1-3 guests who walk in for a room are going to be Christian, which explains the bible, however if you want to argue for islam books, qu'rarn or whatever it is called, and islam as a whole, not including branches of it, are at 0.8%, so you're having an islamic religious text in a room where there is a good chance someone of that religious following will never be in said room, thus being a waste of money and of time.
It's a waste of time and money either way. Nobody reads those things.
Balnik wrote:Illegal Planets wrote:If a Hotel chain wants to place bibles in/on their nightstands, fine. If they want to place copies of the Quran, so be it. It's not "forcing a religion". Nobody is forcing someone to read the book. Personally, I don't see why in the hell the hotels in question would bother, but I also can't stand obnoxious atheists. I think it would be a lot cooler if they placed copies of Brave New World, or Dune or something.
Why would anyone wanna read a garbage book like brave new world though.
by Pacomia » Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:36 pm
by The Rich Port » Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:41 pm
Hurdergaryp wrote:The Rich Port wrote:It's awfully presumptuous of them to leave Bibles.
Granted, eh, I don't mind it. In fact, I kinda wish more religions provided free holy texts. I could use more additions to my library.
I tried to get a Book of Mormon shipped to me but it got lost I think ._.
And now you'll never know about the exciting adventures of Jesus in ancient America. The original golden plates seem to be missing as well, so losing things seems to be a bit of a typical Mormon thing.
by Great Algerstonia » Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:45 pm
Pacomia wrote:Put the book of pastafarianism in hotel rooms
Resilient Acceleration wrote:After a period of letting this discussion run its course without my involvement due to sheer laziness and a new related NS project, I have returned with an answer and that answer is Israel.
by Neanderthaland » Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:54 pm
Farnhamia wrote:Dogmeat wrote:It's a waste of time and money either way. Nobody reads those things.
Some people might. I suspect way more people do than you imagine. You have to remember, the Gideons were started by two traveling salesmen who met by chance in Wisconsin. They came up with the idea of putting Bibles in hotel rooms to help other salesmen or just travelers who might be beset with loneliness. Life on the road could be hard, away from the family, tempted by drink and loose women. Anyway, that's why and I'm sure people do look at the Bibles and the Bibles have helped some of them.
by Crylante » Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:06 pm
by Purpelia » Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:20 pm
by Geneviev » Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:33 pm
Dogmeat wrote:Brittany Normandy Aquitaine wrote:Also Christianity is the majority religion in the United States, probably every 1-3 guests who walk in for a room are going to be Christian, which explains the bible, however if you want to argue for islam books, qu'rarn or whatever it is called, and islam as a whole, not including branches of it, are at 0.8%, so you're having an islamic religious text in a room where there is a good chance someone of that religious following will never be in said room, thus being a waste of money and of time.
It's a waste of time and money either way. Nobody reads those things.
by Hurdergaryp » Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:36 pm
by Saiwania » Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:50 pm
Dogmeat wrote:It's a waste of time and money either way. Nobody reads those things.
by Cocksuccia » Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:56 pm
by Hammer Britannia » Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:57 pm
by Minachia » Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:58 pm
Cocksuccia wrote:While we are irreverent toward religion, we do not outlaw it outright. We believe in freedom to make fun of religion, freedom to worship, freedom to proselytize, and freedom to choose the religion that you believe in or do not believe in. It follows, therefore, that we fully support placing Bibles in Hotel rooms, as it aligns with our respect of the right to proselytize a religion. If any other religions would like to place their materials into our hotel rooms, we welcome them to do so.
by Cedoria » Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:01 pm
by Cedoria » Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:02 pm
Saiwania wrote:Dogmeat wrote:It's a waste of time and money either way. Nobody reads those things.
It probably doesn't cost any hotel anything to have these Bibles, and they could sell these books for $1 each or so in a pinch, if not more. These are physical goods that they otherwise wouldn't have, so it makes more sense perhaps for these Hotels to accept these books. The Gideons are footing the full cost of delivering these Bibles to Hotels (that they almost certainly mass produce or acquire from different sources). The Gideons have figured out ways to raise money just as the Vatican has as one example.
If someone wanted to give you free anything and it wasn't junk or a storage burden, would you really want to refuse them?
by Korhal IVV » Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:08 pm
Pacomia wrote:Put the book of pastafarianism in hotel rooms
"Whatever a person may be like, we must still love them because we love God." ~ John Calvin
by The Caleshan Valkyrie » Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:10 pm
Saiwania wrote:Dogmeat wrote:It's a waste of time and money either way. Nobody reads those things.
It probably doesn't cost any hotel anything to have these Bibles, and they could sell these books for $1 each or so in a pinch, if not more. These are physical goods that they otherwise wouldn't have, so it makes more sense perhaps for these Hotels to accept these books. The Gideons are footing the full cost of delivering these Bibles to Hotels (that they almost certainly mass produce or acquire from different sources). The Gideons have figured out ways to raise money just as the Vatican has as one example.
If someone wanted to give you free anything and it wasn't junk or a storage burden, would you really want to refuse them?
by Hammer Britannia » Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:19 pm
by San Lumen » Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:47 pm
Cedoria wrote:I'm fine with it being placed for the people who request it, and other holy books too for that matter. I reject the position that it should be assumed, and I resent the inconvenience and waste caused by throwing it out when it's placed there without my permission. If I don't want what I consider crap on my table, I should be able to say so.
That said, I think anybody should have the right to one upon request, but make it an opt-in, presume agnosticism otherwise.
by The Emerald Legion » Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:02 pm
by Minachia » Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:17 pm
The Emerald Legion wrote:I always thought the point of the Hotel Bible was to discourage prostitution in the Hotels rooms by making people uncomfortable.
by Bluelight-R006 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:51 pm
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