Bibles in Hotel Rooms

[Hurdergaryp]

The demographic that travels that most is senior citizens.
Seniors tend to also be the most religious.

That's why they are still there, it's not any more complicated then that.

If those senior citizens are truly religious, it is only fair to assume they carry their own holy books with them, as all the devoutly faithful should, eliminating the need for seeding hotel rooms with surprise holy scripture. Everyone else can just enjoy eternal damnation, as is common.

[Camelone]

Context is incredibly important when reading the Bible, you need to know why x is happening and it is usually because of y but y may be assumed to be known by the author. Or certain books are happening at relatively the same time but or overlap with time, most specifically the Old Testament with the Minor Prophets overlapping and happening at the same time as I believe it was the Book of Kings, 1 and 2. It's much more complicated than most people think because it is not one book.

Yes. Like I say, Christians claim that context is important. So why do they insist that Bibles on their own should be in hotel rooms.

Mostly because that is for in depth study but the individual believer can still gain insight from simple reading of the Bible and help from simply reading. The establishment of doctrine and making sense of the bigger picture is for tougher studies but even on its own the Bible is incredibly helpful and insight can be gained even if there is not a 100% understanding of everything going on.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Meh.

[Rastrian]

But as I said, it's a fairly random chance whether you come across the "lovey" verses like John 3:16, and the reprehensible commands in Leviticus, or the genealogies I'm Matthew or Genesis.

Most of the Bible is not law, or genealogies.

Okay, so because it's more likely that you'll find the verse "For god so loved the world..." than "“‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads", it's absolutely fine that the latter is in there to be seen?

[Impaled Nazarene]

I'm not religious but I don't mind having a bible in the room as long as its in the drawer or closet not out in the open. I'd like it better if the bibles were higher quality, because I've seen cheap school toilet paper thicker than those pages and larger print would be appreciated.

[Geneviev]

Most of the Bible is not law, or genealogies.

Okay, so because it's more likely that you'll find the verse "For god so loved the world..." than "“‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads", it's absolutely fine that the latter is in there to be seen?

Yes, the whole Bible is good. People can always find help from it.

[The New California Republic]

Yes, the whole Bible is good. People can always find help from it.

Even Ezekiel 23:20?

[Hurdergaryp]

Yes. Like I say, Christians claim that context is important. So why do they insist that Bibles on their own should be in hotel rooms.

Mostly because that is for in depth study but the individual believer can still gain insight from simple reading of the Bible and help from simply reading. The establishment of doctrine and making sense of the bigger picture is for tougher studies but even on its own the Bible is incredibly helpful and insight can be gained even if there is not a 100% understanding of everything going on.

The bible, even in its streamlined form as lurking in drawers in hotel rooms in way too many places, is not commonly considered light literature one merrily browses through when nothing more entertaining is around. Television, hotel wifi and the minibar are considered to be superior alternatives by the overwhelming majority.

[Geneviev]

Yes, the whole Bible is good. People can always find help from it.

Even Ezekiel 23:20?

Yes, even Ezekiel 23:20 if you read the whole chapter.

[The New California Republic]

Even Ezekiel 23:20?

Yes, even Ezekiel 23:20 if you read the whole chapter.

I mean that very explicit line specifically.

[Aclion]

Why would anyone take them?

To spite the Gideons and make their proselytisation more expensive.

Actually they're delighted when people take them.

Yes, even Ezekiel 23:20 if you read the whole chapter.

I mean that very explicit line specifically.

*flipflipflipflipflip*
"There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses."
Hot

[Rastrian]

Even Ezekiel 23:20?

Yes, even Ezekiel 23:20 if you read the whole chapter.

The word of the Lord came to me: 2 “Son of man, there were two women, daughters of the same mother. 3 They became prostitutes in Egypt, engaging in prostitution from their youth. In that land their breasts were fondled and their virgin bosoms caressed. 4 The older was named Oholah, and her sister was Oholibah. They were mine and gave birth to sons and daughters. Oholah is Samaria, and Oholibah is Jerusalem.

5 “Oholah engaged in prostitution while she was still mine; and she lusted after her lovers, the Assyrians—warriors 6 clothed in blue, governors and commanders, all of them handsome young men, and mounted horsemen. 7 She gave herself as a prostitute to all the elite of the Assyrians and defiled herself with all the idols of everyone she lusted after. 8 She did not give up the prostitution she began in Egypt, when during her youth men slept with her, caressed her virgin bosom and poured out their lust on her.

9 “Therefore I delivered her into the hands of her lovers, the Assyrians, for whom she lusted. 10 They stripped her naked, took away her sons and daughters and killed her with the sword. She became a byword among women, and punishment was inflicted on her.

11 “Her sister Oholibah saw this, yet in her lust and prostitution she was more depraved than her sister. 12 She too lusted after the Assyrians—governors and commanders, warriors in full dress, mounted horsemen, all handsome young men. 13 I saw that she too defiled herself; both of them went the same way.

14 “But she carried her prostitution still further. She saw men portrayed on a wall, figures of Chaldeans[a] portrayed in red, 15 with belts around their waists and flowing turbans on their heads; all of them looked like Babylonian chariot officers, natives of Chaldea.[b] 16 As soon as she saw them, she lusted after them and sent messengers to them in Chaldea. 17 Then the Babylonians came to her, to the bed of love, and in their lust they defiled her. After she had been defiled by them, she turned away from them in disgust. 18 When she carried on her prostitution openly and exposed her naked body, I turned away from her in disgust, just as I had turned away from her sister. 19 Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. 20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. 21 So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom was caressed and your young breasts fondled.[c]

22 “Therefore, Oholibah, this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I will stir up your lovers against you, those you turned away from in disgust, and I will bring them against you from every side— 23 the Babylonians and all the Chaldeans, the men of Pekod and Shoa and Koa, and all the Assyrians with them, handsome young men, all of them governors and commanders, chariot officers and men of high rank, all mounted on horses. 24 They will come against you with weapons,[d] chariots and wagons and with a throng of people; they will take up positions against you on every side with large and small shields and with helmets. I will turn you over to them for punishment, and they will punish you according to their standards. 25 I will direct my jealous anger against you, and they will deal with you in fury. They will cut off your noses and your ears, and those of you who are left will fall by the sword. They will take away your sons and daughters, and those of you who are left will be consumed by fire. 26 They will also strip you of your clothes and take your fine jewelry. 27 So I will put a stop to the lewdness and prostitution you began in Egypt. You will not look on these things with longing or remember Egypt anymore.

28 “For this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am about to deliver you into the hands of those you hate, to those you turned away from in disgust. 29 They will deal with you in hatred and take away everything you have worked for. They will leave you stark naked, and the shame of your prostitution will be exposed. Your lewdness and promiscuity 30 have brought this on you, because you lusted after the nations and defiled yourself with their idols. 31 You have gone the way of your sister; so I will put her cup into your hand.

32 “This is what the Sovereign Lord says:

“You will drink your sister’s cup,
a cup large and deep;
it will bring scorn and derision,
for it holds so much.
33 You will be filled with drunkenness and sorrow,
the cup of ruin and desolation,
the cup of your sister Samaria.
34 You will drink it and drain it dry
and chew on its pieces—
and you will tear your breasts.

I have spoken, declares the Sovereign Lord.

35 “Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says: Since you have forgotten me and turned your back on me, you must bear the consequences of your lewdness and prostitution.”

36 The Lord said to me: “Son of man, will you judge Oholah and Oholibah? Then confront them with their detestable practices, 37 for they have committed adultery and blood is on their hands. They committed adultery with their idols; they even sacrificed their children, whom they bore to me, as food for them. 38 They have also done this to me: At that same time they defiled my sanctuary and desecrated my Sabbaths. 39 On the very day they sacrificed their children to their idols, they entered my sanctuary and desecrated it. That is what they did in my house.

40 “They even sent messengers for men who came from far away, and when they arrived you bathed yourself for them, applied eye makeup and put on your jewelry. 41 You sat on an elegant couch, with a table spread before it on which you had placed the incense and olive oil that belonged to me.

42 “The noise of a carefree crowd was around her; drunkards were brought from the desert along with men from the rabble, and they put bracelets on the wrists of the woman and her sister and beautiful crowns on their heads. 43 Then I said about the one worn out by adultery, ‘Now let them use her as a prostitute, for that is all she is.’ 44 And they slept with her. As men sleep with a prostitute, so they slept with those lewd women, Oholah and Oholibah. 45 But righteous judges will sentence them to the punishment of women who commit adultery and shed blood, because they are adulterous and blood is on their hands.

46 “This is what the Sovereign Lord says: Bring a mob against them and give them over to terror and plunder. 47 The mob will stone them and cut them down with their swords; they will kill their sons and daughters and burn down their houses.

48 “So I will put an end to lewdness in the land, that all women may take warning and not imitate you. 49 You will suffer the penalty for your lewdness and bear the consequences of your sins of idolatry. Then you will know that I am the Sovereign Lord.”

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Yes, even Ezekiel 23:20 if you read the whole chapter.

I mean that very explicit line specifically.

Well if you're into lots of stamina and big dicks, it could help you find out that Coptic men are your fetish I guess?

[Hurdergaryp]

Yes, even Ezekiel 23:20 if you read the whole chapter.

I mean that very explicit line specifically.

The Old Testament most certainly has its pornographic charms whenever God isn't busy murdering everyone or allowing His People to suffer immense hardships. Those were the days, my friends.

[The New California Republic]

I mean that very explicit line specifically.

The Old Testament most certainly has its pornographic charms whenever God isn't busy murdering everyone or allowing His People to suffer immense hardships. Those were the days, my friends.

[Camelone]

Mostly because that is for in depth study but the individual believer can still gain insight from simple reading of the Bible and help from simply reading. The establishment of doctrine and making sense of the bigger picture is for tougher studies but even on its own the Bible is incredibly helpful and insight can be gained even if there is not a 100% understanding of everything going on.

The bible, even in its streamlined form as lurking in drawers in hotel rooms in way too many places, is not commonly considered light literature one merrily browses through when nothing more entertaining is around. Television, hotel wifi and the minibar are considered to be superior alternatives by the overwhelming majority.

The Bible isn’t read for entertainment so it’s not about entertainment.

[Aclion]

The bible, even in its streamlined form as lurking in drawers in hotel rooms in way too many places, is not commonly considered light literature one merrily browses through when nothing more entertaining is around. Television, hotel wifi and the minibar are considered to be superior alternatives by the overwhelming majority.

The Bible isn’t read for entertainment so it’s not about entertainment.

Speak for yourself. It says here that the emissions were like that of horses!

[Korhal IVV]

Yes, even Ezekiel 23:20 if you read the whole chapter.

I mean that very explicit line specifically.

You cannot chop off that one line just to make everything else look bad.

Doing so is like taking “kill” from a statement of “we need to kill the bacteria infecting this man’s chest” and misconstruing it as murderous desire.

[Scomagia]

The bible, even in its streamlined form as lurking in drawers in hotel rooms in way too many places, is not commonly considered light literature one merrily browses through when nothing more entertaining is around. Television, hotel wifi and the minibar are considered to be superior alternatives by the overwhelming majority.

The Bible isn’t read for entertainment so it’s not about entertainment.

I unironically find some of it entertaining.

[Korhal IVV]

To spite the Gideons and make their proselytisation more expensive.

Actually they're delighted when people take them.

I mean that very explicit line specifically.

*flipflipflipflipflip*
"There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses."
Hot

All of the Hebrew prophets do not think so.

[Geneviev]

Yes, even Ezekiel 23:20 if you read the whole chapter.

I mean that very explicit line specifically.

Then, it depends. It can help people who think the Bible is boring, maybe.

Yes, even Ezekiel 23:20 if you read the whole chapter.

The word of the Lord came to me: 2 “Son of man, there were two women, daughters of the same mother. 3 They became prostitutes in Egypt, engaging in prostitution from their youth. In that land their breasts were fondled and their virgin bosoms caressed. 4 The older was named Oholah, and her sister was Oholibah. They were mine and gave birth to sons and daughters. Oholah is Samaria, and Oholibah is Jerusalem.

5 “Oholah engaged in prostitution while she was still mine; and she lusted after her lovers, the Assyrians—warriors 6 clothed in blue, governors and commanders, all of them handsome young men, and mounted horsemen. 7 She gave herself as a prostitute to all the elite of the Assyrians and defiled herself with all the idols of everyone she lusted after. 8 She did not give up the prostitution she began in Egypt, when during her youth men slept with her, caressed her virgin bosom and poured out their lust on her.

9 “Therefore I delivered her into the hands of her lovers, the Assyrians, for whom she lusted. 10 They stripped her naked, took away her sons and daughters and killed her with the sword. She became a byword among women, and punishment was inflicted on her.

11 “Her sister Oholibah saw this, yet in her lust and prostitution she was more depraved than her sister. 12 She too lusted after the Assyrians—governors and commanders, warriors in full dress, mounted horsemen, all handsome young men. 13 I saw that she too defiled herself; both of them went the same way.

14 “But she carried her prostitution still further. She saw men portrayed on a wall, figures of Chaldeans[a] portrayed in red, 15 with belts around their waists and flowing turbans on their heads; all of them looked like Babylonian chariot officers, natives of Chaldea.[b] 16 As soon as she saw them, she lusted after them and sent messengers to them in Chaldea. 17 Then the Babylonians came to her, to the bed of love, and in their lust they defiled her. After she had been defiled by them, she turned away from them in disgust. 18 When she carried on her prostitution openly and exposed her naked body, I turned away from her in disgust, just as I had turned away from her sister. 19 Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. 20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. 21 So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom was caressed and your young breasts fondled.[c]

22 “Therefore, Oholibah, this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I will stir up your lovers against you, those you turned away from in disgust, and I will bring them against you from every side— 23 the Babylonians and all the Chaldeans, the men of Pekod and Shoa and Koa, and all the Assyrians with them, handsome young men, all of them governors and commanders, chariot officers and men of high rank, all mounted on horses. 24 They will come against you with weapons,[d] chariots and wagons and with a throng of people; they will take up positions against you on every side with large and small shields and with helmets. I will turn you over to them for punishment, and they will punish you according to their standards. 25 I will direct my jealous anger against you, and they will deal with you in fury. They will cut off your noses and your ears, and those of you who are left will fall by the sword. They will take away your sons and daughters, and those of you who are left will be consumed by fire. 26 They will also strip you of your clothes and take your fine jewelry. 27 So I will put a stop to the lewdness and prostitution you began in Egypt. You will not look on these things with longing or remember Egypt anymore.

28 “For this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am about to deliver you into the hands of those you hate, to those you turned away from in disgust. 29 They will deal with you in hatred and take away everything you have worked for. They will leave you stark naked, and the shame of your prostitution will be exposed. Your lewdness and promiscuity 30 have brought this on you, because you lusted after the nations and defiled yourself with their idols. 31 You have gone the way of your sister; so I will put her cup into your hand.

32 “This is what the Sovereign Lord says:

“You will drink your sister’s cup,
a cup large and deep;
it will bring scorn and derision,
for it holds so much.
33 You will be filled with drunkenness and sorrow,
the cup of ruin and desolation,
the cup of your sister Samaria.
34 You will drink it and drain it dry
and chew on its pieces—
and you will tear your breasts.

I have spoken, declares the Sovereign Lord.

35 “Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says: Since you have forgotten me and turned your back on me, you must bear the consequences of your lewdness and prostitution.”

36 The Lord said to me: “Son of man, will you judge Oholah and Oholibah? Then confront them with their detestable practices, 37 for they have committed adultery and blood is on their hands. They committed adultery with their idols; they even sacrificed their children, whom they bore to me, as food for them. 38 They have also done this to me: At that same time they defiled my sanctuary and desecrated my Sabbaths. 39 On the very day they sacrificed their children to their idols, they entered my sanctuary and desecrated it. That is what they did in my house.

40 “They even sent messengers for men who came from far away, and when they arrived you bathed yourself for them, applied eye makeup and put on your jewelry. 41 You sat on an elegant couch, with a table spread before it on which you had placed the incense and olive oil that belonged to me.

42 “The noise of a carefree crowd was around her; drunkards were brought from the desert along with men from the rabble, and they put bracelets on the wrists of the woman and her sister and beautiful crowns on their heads. 43 Then I said about the one worn out by adultery, ‘Now let them use her as a prostitute, for that is all she is.’ 44 And they slept with her. As men sleep with a prostitute, so they slept with those lewd women, Oholah and Oholibah. 45 But righteous judges will sentence them to the punishment of women who commit adultery and shed blood, because they are adulterous and blood is on their hands.

46 “This is what the Sovereign Lord says: Bring a mob against them and give them over to terror and plunder. 47 The mob will stone them and cut them down with their swords; they will kill their sons and daughters and burn down their houses.

48 “So I will put an end to lewdness in the land, that all women may take warning and not imitate you. 49 You will suffer the penalty for your lewdness and bear the consequences of your sins of idolatry. Then you will know that I am the Sovereign Lord.”

It's actually a warning from God, which can help people.

[The New California Republic]

I mean that very explicit line specifically.

You cannot chop off that one line just to make everything else look bad.

The claim was made that all the Bible is good. I pointed that line out as an example.

Korhal, please clarify what you meant by this.

Alone in the hotel room.

Why would you assume that?

[Hurdergaryp]

The Old Testament most certainly has its pornographic charms whenever God isn't busy murdering everyone or allowing His People to suffer immense hardships. Those were the days, my friends.

Not that it was all bad, of course. The Holy Lord apparently gave his subservient flock the freedom to systematically exterminate everyone who do not blindly follow the totalitarian guidelines of YHWH. And if there's something the faithful love, it is wholesale slaughter. Unless they're on the wrong side of the blades, of course. God really dislikes you in that case, I assume.

[Free Arabian Nation]

Yes, the whole Bible is good. People can always find help from it.

Even Ezekiel 23:20?

That's the best part tho

[Hurdergaryp]

The bible, even in its streamlined form as lurking in drawers in hotel rooms in way too many places, is not commonly considered light literature one merrily browses through when nothing more entertaining is around. Television, hotel wifi and the minibar are considered to be superior alternatives by the overwhelming majority.

The Bible isn’t read for entertainment so it’s not about entertainment.

So it is purely read for self-deprecating masochistic purposes?