Nova Cyberia wrote:The Dems also wanted to impose a limit on how many people ICE can detain
might this perhaps be because they seem to have detained more people than they can handle
Advertisement

by Senkaku » Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:58 pm
Nova Cyberia wrote:The Dems also wanted to impose a limit on how many people ICE can detain

by Novus America » Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:58 pm
Pyta wrote:Novus America wrote:
It is not just because some in the administration might want that.
A sudden massive increase in a very different type they were used to, funded and trained for really as happened.
And you clearly line out in the law what they can and cannot do. And what they are required to do. Congress can pass a law saying you get more money but cannot do x and must do y instead.
But that would be Congress actually doing its job.
2018 saw the largest amount of border apprehensions since, *checks notes* 2014.
The idea that there's an unprecedently massive group of people crossing the border is, quite simply, counterfactual. https://www.npr.org/2018/06/22/62224681 ... ree-graphs

by Vassenor » Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:59 pm

by Nova Cyberia » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:02 pm

by Novus America » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:02 pm

by Paddy O Fernature » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:03 pm

by Nova Cyberia » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:03 pm
Novus America wrote:“Republicans have repeatedly referred to a border crisis at the southern edge of the country, and U.S. Customs and Border Protection data indeed shows a dramatic shift in recent months.”
https://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/st ... sing-clai/
So please stop with the class that because crossings were down in 2017 they are not high now.

by Nova Cyberia » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:04 pm

by The Two Jerseys » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:04 pm

by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:06 pm
Nova Cyberia wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Eh, I think Trump should have just shut his yap and just took the money sans physical barriers.
It wasn't just because of the wall. The Dems also wanted to impose a limit on how many people ICE can detain, something that would have handicapped ICE which they fucking knew perfectly well Trump would never support.
At this point, trying to act like this is all Trump and the Repub's fault is just a lie.

by Nova Cyberia » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:06 pm

by Nova Cyberia » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:08 pm
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Nova Cyberia wrote:It wasn't just because of the wall. The Dems also wanted to impose a limit on how many people ICE can detain, something that would have handicapped ICE which they fucking knew perfectly well Trump would never support.
At this point, trying to act like this is all Trump and the Repub's fault is just a lie.
Maybe to prevent overcrowding and usage of camps like this.
It isn't all Trump and the Repub's fault, some of the blame goes to the dems too.
It's just an all around fuck up.

by Novus America » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:08 pm
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Nova Cyberia wrote:It wasn't just because of the wall. The Dems also wanted to impose a limit on how many people ICE can detain, something that would have handicapped ICE which they fucking knew perfectly well Trump would never support.
At this point, trying to act like this is all Trump and the Repub's fault is just a lie.
Maybe to prevent overcrowding and usage of camps like this.
It isn't all Trump and the Repub's fault, some of the blame goes to the dems too.
It's just an all around fuck up.

by Fartsniffage » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:08 pm

by Fartsniffage » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:10 pm
Nova Cyberia wrote:Paddy O Fernature wrote:
And when a surge happens and the capacity limit is reached, then what? Leave people chained to a pole out back until a room is available at the local Holiday Inn?
No, we're supposed to let them run free in the country.
Effectively, we aren't supposed to detain people.

by Nova Cyberia » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:10 pm
Fartsniffage wrote:Paddy O Fernature wrote:
And when a surge happens and the capacity limit is reached, then what? Leave people chained to a pole out back until a room is available at the local Holiday Inn?
Nah. You just jam them into overcrowded facilities and hope for the best. After all, they're only brown people, not really people at all when you think about it. And they're coming from a place that sucks so they're probably used to privation. It's not a humanitarian crisis at all.


by Fartsniffage » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:12 pm
Nova Cyberia wrote:Fartsniffage wrote:
Nah. You just jam them into overcrowded facilities and hope for the best. After all, they're only brown people, not really people at all when you think about it. And they're coming from a place that sucks so they're probably used to privation. It's not a humanitarian crisis at all.

by Paddy O Fernature » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:12 pm
Nova Cyberia wrote:Fartsniffage wrote:
Nah. You just jam them into overcrowded facilities and hope for the best. After all, they're only brown people, not really people at all when you think about it. And they're coming from a place that sucks so they're probably used to privation. It's not a humanitarian crisis at all.

by Nova Cyberia » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:13 pm

by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:14 pm
Nova Cyberia wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Maybe to prevent overcrowding and usage of camps like this.
It isn't all Trump and the Repub's fault, some of the blame goes to the dems too.
It's just an all around fuck up.
They were providing funding for better facilities.
Why fund better facilities while simultaneously limiting the amount of people ICE can detain?
It's idiot logic.

by Nova Cyberia » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:16 pm
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Nova Cyberia wrote:They were providing funding for better facilities.
Why fund better facilities while simultaneously limiting the amount of people ICE can detain?
It's idiot logic.
Those new facilities have to have a cap on those people and wouldn't be completed as soon as the bill was signed.

by The Two Jerseys » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:16 pm
Pyta wrote:surprising that you start detaining more people when you start detaining people who are trying to legally enter the country.

by Fartsniffage » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:17 pm
Nova Cyberia wrote:Fartsniffage wrote:
Why would I need a spade? I don't do manual labour, I'm not a Mexican.
I'd imagine to keep shoveling words in the man's mouth.
Fart, your bait is weak. You lack coherent points. All you have is pathetic appeal to emotion and claims of racism.
Your debating skills are inadequate.

by Nova Cyberia » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:18 pm
Fartsniffage wrote:Nova Cyberia wrote:I'd imagine to keep shoveling words in the man's mouth.
Fart, your bait is weak. You lack coherent points. All you have is pathetic appeal to emotion and claims of racism.
Your debating skills are inadequate.
If you're going to go down that route then you at least have to link this.
Advertisement
Users browsing this forum: American Legionaries, Calption, Corporate Collective Salvation, Fractalnavel, Haganham, Norse Inuit Union, Northern Seleucia, The Jamesian Republic, The Rio Grande River Basin
Advertisement