Border Patrol Is Detaining Migrants in ‘a Human Dog Pound’

[Radimostan]

133/day is still more than we spend on housing prisoners, on average, who, again, have actually been convicted of a crime.

According to the Vera Institute of Justice, incarceration costs an average of more than $31,000 per inmate, per year, nationwide.

31 000 / 365 = 85 a day in a normal prison.

Alright, now.

Where are the immigration detention centers generally positioned?

In a remote location, near the border, where lands are often not developed and often lack basic infrastructure. This, of course, leads to higher construction and maintenance. Also, there is the cost of delivering supplies there. Not to mention that Federal law enforcement positions have much better pay than law enforcement in most individual states.

This combined makes, in my opinion, the 48 difference. Not to mention even then it is cheaper than inmates in California (220 a day).

[Pyta]

133/day is still more than we spend on housing prisoners, on average, who, again, have actually been convicted of a crime.

According to the Vera Institute of Justice, incarceration costs an average of more than $31,000 per inmate, per year, nationwide.

31 000 / 365 = 85 a day in a normal prison.

Alright, now.

Where are the immigration detention centers generally positioned?

In a remote location, near the border, where lands are often not developed and often lack basic infrastructure. This, of course, leads to higher construction and maintenance. Also, there is the cost of delivering supplies there. Not to mention that Federal law enforcement positions have much better pay than law enforcement in most individual states.

This combined makes, in my opinion, the 48 difference. Not to mention even then it is cheaper than inmates in California (220 a day).

Sure, let's say that makes up the 48 difference.

Now then: Why are so many people dying in the camps? So much faster than in prisons?

[Radimostan]

Because trying to sneak through the less-guard areas of the Mexican-American border can be quite exhausting and thus harmful to your health?

[Liriena]

Richest country in the world. You can afford it without using some senile fuck's dream of a militarized border wall as a bargaining chip.

Also, you do have a responsibility towards everyone in need within your country, at least, and that includes the immigrants you detain.

For the second time, I am not American.

Allow me to use the plural "you" for rhetorical purposes.

Also, says who?

Me? I'm expressing my personal opinion?

[Radimostan]

Plus, yes. I am pretty sure that the immigration detention centers are of low quality compared to let's say California prisons, this, of course, has a negative health effect on immigrants who already face serious health risks. Yet, again. That needs funding.

[Radimostan]

For the second time, I am not American.

Allow me to use the plural "you" for rhetorical purposes.

If you really need to be so dramatic.

Also, says who?

Me? I'm expressing my personal opinion?

I am pretty sure it's not binding then.

[Vassenor]

Plus, yes. I am pretty sure that the immigration detention centers are of low quality compared to let's say California prisons, this, of course, has a negative health effect on immigrants who already face serious health risks. Yet, again. That needs funding.

Unfortunately it's become a source of emotional blackmail for the GOP now - "We'll fund the centres properly, but only if you give us The Wall first".

Literally holding human lives hostage in exchange for a white elephant.

[Fartsniffage]

Plus, yes. I am pretty sure that the immigration detention centers are of low quality compared to let's say California prisons, this, of course, has a negative health effect on immigrants who already face serious health risks. Yet, again. That needs funding.

Unfortunately it's become a source of emotional blackmail for the GOP now - "We'll fund the centres properly, but only if you give us The Wall first".

Literally holding human lives hostage in exchange for a white elephant.

Offer them a brown elephant, see how the GOP responds.

[Radimostan]

Plus, yes. I am pretty sure that the immigration detention centers are of low quality compared to let's say California prisons, this, of course, has a negative health effect on immigrants who already face serious health risks. Yet, again. That needs funding.

Unfortunately it's become a source of emotional blackmail for the GOP now - "We'll fund the centres properly, but only if you give us The Wall first".

Literally holding human lives hostage in exchange for a white elephant.

Sure, that's bad. But that's politics for you. Nothing the Border Patrol can do here.

[The Two Jerseys]

Because trying to sneak through the less-guard areas of the Mexican-American border can be quite exhausting and thus harmful to your health?

Plus when you catch, say, cholera weeks ago in your home country and it's gone untreated since then...

[Novus America]

Plus, yes. I am pretty sure that the immigration detention centers are of low quality compared to let's say California prisons, this, of course, has a negative health effect on immigrants who already face serious health risks. Yet, again. That needs funding.

Unfortunately it's become a source of emotional blackmail for the GOP now - "We'll fund the centres properly, but only if you give us The Wall first".

Literally holding human lives hostage in exchange for a white elephant.

To some degree yes, but the reverse applies too.
Neither side actually cares about the people, just scoring political points.

[Novus America]

According to the Vera Institute of Justice, incarceration costs an average of more than $31,000 per inmate, per year, nationwide.

31 000 / 365 = 85 a day in a normal prison.

Alright, now.

Where are the immigration detention centers generally positioned?

In a remote location, near the border, where lands are often not developed and often lack basic infrastructure. This, of course, leads to higher construction and maintenance. Also, there is the cost of delivering supplies there. Not to mention that Federal law enforcement positions have much better pay than law enforcement in most individual states.

This combined makes, in my opinion, the 48 difference. Not to mention even then it is cheaper than inmates in California (220 a day).

Sure, let's say that makes up the 48 difference.

Now then: Why are so many people dying in the camps? So much faster than in prisons?

Probably many reasons, such as the poor level of health when they are first detained.
Where the cone from health is generally much worse, and diseases are prevalent that have been largely eliminated in the US.

Also because prisons were generally point with more planning in mind.
When our immigration detention system is a more ad hoc system not at all designed for current migration patter which have drastically changed, just over the past two years.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

It's very damming evidence given that it was 40 degrees at the time.

Actually it’s not. 40 degrees Celsius isn’t that bad at all. Besides they probably have fans.

My dude
15- 20 degrees Celsius is warm
25- 30 degrees Celsius is hot
40 degrees Celsius is insane.

People that work outdoors in 30 degree heat normally get sent home beacuse of the worry of heat stroke.

Fans just blow hot air at you at that point.

[Nova Cyberia]

Actually it’s not. 40 degrees Celsius isn’t that bad at all. Besides they probably have fans.

My dude
15- 20 degrees Celsius is warm
25- 30 degrees Celsius is hot
40 degrees Celsius is insane.

People that work outdoors in 30 degree heat normally get sent home beacuse of the worry of heat stroke.

Fans just blow hot air at you at that point.

You're right.

Which is why ICE and CBP need more funding so they can have better fetention facilities.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

My dude
15- 20 degrees Celsius is warm
25- 30 degrees Celsius is hot
40 degrees Celsius is insane.

People that work outdoors in 30 degree heat normally get sent home beacuse of the worry of heat stroke.

Fans just blow hot air at you at that point.

You're right.

Which is why ICE and CBP need more funding so they can have better fetention facilities.

Yes.

[Nova Cyberia]

You're right.

Which is why ICE and CBP need more funding so they can have better fetention facilities.

Yes.

[Libertas Omnium Maximus]

Actually it’s not. 40 degrees Celsius isn’t that bad at all. Besides they probably have fans.

My dude
15- 20 degrees Celsius is warm
25- 30 degrees Celsius is hot
40 degrees Celsius is insane.

People that work outdoors in 30 degree heat normally get sent home beacuse of the worry of heat stroke.

Fans just blow hot air at you at that point.

If it was that bad the guards would complain and do something. Remember, people other than the detainees are there.

[Tornado Queendom]

Trust me, taking away Border Patrol JUST because they treat migrants like animals WILL lead to a slippery slope. Today, it's the fair treatment of migrants. Tomorrow, Native Americans (both indigenous tribes and those who were born in this country) will be put in "Human Dog Pounds". Race will not matter, as anyone born here WILL be sent to those dog pounds if the elite get their way. What we need is to let the cops do their thing, and hope that it stops naturally. Besides, the cops probably get in trouble anyways. If they don't, then natural selection will do it for them.

[Senkaku]

My dude
15- 20 degrees Celsius is warm
25- 30 degrees Celsius is hot
40 degrees Celsius is insane.

People that work outdoors in 30 degree heat normally get sent home beacuse of the worry of heat stroke.

Fans just blow hot air at you at that point.

You're right.

Which is why ICE and CBP need more funding so they can have better fetention facilities.

usually when someone abuses their power and causes a bad outcome, the solution is not to say "oh, well if you had even more power, we could treat a few symptoms of the terrible thing you've caused while letting the underlying problem continue"?? In this case the symptom being 40 Centigrade heat and the problem being the fact that thousands of people, especially small children, are being kept in concentration camps..?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

My dude
15- 20 degrees Celsius is warm
25- 30 degrees Celsius is hot
40 degrees Celsius is insane.

People that work outdoors in 30 degree heat normally get sent home beacuse of the worry of heat stroke.

Fans just blow hot air at you at that point.

If it was that bad the guards would complain and do something. Remember, people other than the detainees are there.

They would but no money.

So yes the guards and detainees are both out there in this heat.

[Senkaku]

Trust me, taking away Border Patrol JUST because they treat migrants like animals WILL lead to a slippery slope. Today, it's the fair treatment of migrants. Tomorrow, Native Americans (both indigenous tribes and those who were born in this country) will be put in "Human Dog Pounds". Race will not matter, as anyone born here WILL be sent to those dog pounds if the elite get their way. What we need is to let the cops do their thing, and hope that it stops naturally. Besides, the cops probably get in trouble anyways. If they don't, then natural selection will do it for them.

please expand on this fascinating line of thonkery lol

[Radimostan]

wait a minute, we've been there already

is this debate going in circles?

[Nova Cyberia]

You're right.

Which is why ICE and CBP need more funding so they can have better fetention facilities.

usually when someone abuses their power and causes a bad outcome, the solution is not to say "oh, well if you had even more power, we could treat a few symptoms of the terrible thing you've caused while letting the underlying problem continue"?? In this case the symptom being 40 Centigrade heat and the problem being the fact that thousands of people, especially small children, are being kept in concentration camps..?

Its not a deliberate abuse of power. They literally do not have the resources to deal with all the migrants.

[Tornado Queendom]

Trust me, taking away Border Patrol JUST because they treat migrants like animals WILL lead to a slippery slope. Today, it's the fair treatment of migrants. Tomorrow, Native Americans (both indigenous tribes and those who were born in this country) will be put in "Human Dog Pounds". Race will not matter, as anyone born here WILL be sent to those dog pounds if the elite get their way. What we need is to let the cops do their thing, and hope that it stops naturally. Besides, the cops probably get in trouble anyways. If they don't, then natural selection will do it for them.

please expand on this fascinating line of thonkery lol

First, they let Migrants who don't have a good criminal record run willy-nilly in America. Then, the criminals elect a president that doesn't know what he's doing and is only there as Saudi Arabia's puppet. Soon after, the president starts arresting those that question the Saudi and MSM narratives. Eventually, we'll be left with "reverse apartheid": Natives are oppressed by illegal immigrants and Saudi loyalists. Is that what you want?!

[Tornado Queendom]

usually when someone abuses their power and causes a bad outcome, the solution is not to say "oh, well if you had even more power, we could treat a few symptoms of the terrible thing you've caused while letting the underlying problem continue"?? In this case the symptom being 40 Centigrade heat and the problem being the fact that thousands of people, especially small children, are being kept in concentration camps..?

Its not a deliberate abuse of power. They literally do not have the resources to deal with all the migrants.

Yes, and it will be easier in the long run to send them back. They just are doing the BARE MINIMUM they can so that the Saudi Royal Family of puppet masters don't get upset, while still doing the best they can to protect natives.