Border Patrol Is Detaining Migrants in ‘a Human Dog Pound’

[Nova Cyberia]

They deny there's an emergency at all. I doubt they would.

Well that comes from the unwillingness of politicians to work together for the betterment of the country.

Now you're starting to understand.

[Radimostan]

You do understand that that isn’t how the Government works? Congress has the purse.

Yes, but Trump declared a national emergency in order to try to secure funding for the wall. If he declared one to solve the inhumane conditions at the border, and alllocated funding to improve the centers, I'm sure congress would support him.

Okay, let's imagine it.

Trump declares emergency in order to get more funding for the detention centers.

The Democrat-controlled House just goes "yeah, that makes sense"

sounds like a very plausible scenario

[Libertas Omnium Maximus]

You do understand that that isn’t how the Government works? Congress has the purse.

Yes, but Trump declared a national emergency in order to try to secure funding for the wall. If he declared one to solve the inhumane conditions at the border, and alllocated funding to improve the centers, I'm sure congress would support him.

They aren’t American Citizens and their situation is bad but not that bad. It really isn’t a national emergency.

[Rossiyaana]

No, that is an emergency. I agree DHS needs more funding, but not for inhumane detention centers.

Detention centers can be perfectly humane with the proper funding.

Sure they can. I'm not disagreeing. Which is why I'm saying that if we must we should spend money on them instead of a wall.

[Nova Cyberia]

Detention centers can be perfectly humane with the proper funding.

Sure they can. I'm not disagreeing. Which is why I'm saying that if we must we should spend money on them instead of a wall.

Our government is more than capable of multitasking.

[Vassenor]

Yes, but Trump declared a national emergency in order to try to secure funding for the wall. If he declared one to solve the inhumane conditions at the border, and alllocated funding to improve the centers, I'm sure congress would support him.

They aren’t American Citizens and their situation is bad but not that bad. It really isn’t a national emergency.

If it's not all that bad you won't have a problem being in the same situation.

[Libertas Omnium Maximus]

They aren’t American Citizens and their situation is bad but not that bad. It really isn’t a national emergency.

If it's not all that bad you won't have a problem being in the same situation.

I certainly wouldn’t enjoy it but would be willing if it meant a better life.

[Rossiyaana]

Yes, but Trump declared a national emergency in order to try to secure funding for the wall. If he declared one to solve the inhumane conditions at the border, and alllocated funding to improve the centers, I'm sure congress would support him.

They aren’t American Citizens and their situation is bad but not that bad. It really isn’t a national emergency.

Doesn't matter if they're citizens or not, we should still help them. The border crisis is an emergency, and I think we just have different ways of handling it. I propose humane processing centers where people can rest for a while before coming into the US and becoming productive member of Society. You're proposing a wall, and detention centers where people die. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Pyta]

Gonna repeat that we're spending $750 dollars a day to keep people in camps because everyone seems to be very concerned with ICE being underfunded or something

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/im ... 7c30f285e3

[Rossiyaana]

If it's not all that bad you won't have a problem being in the same situation.

I certainly wouldn’t enjoy it but would be willing if it meant a better life.

Most of them are deported, so it'd all be for nothing.

[Novus America]

They deny there's an emergency at all. I doubt they would.

Well that comes from the unwillingness of politicians to work together for the betterment of the country.

Obviously. That is the problem.

[Nova Cyberia]

Gonna repeat that we're spending $750 dollars a day to keep people in camps because everyone seems to be very concerned with ICE being underfunded or something

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/im ... 7c30f285e3

A whole $750 a day?! Clearly we're being bankrupted.

[Libertas Omnium Maximus]

They aren’t American Citizens and their situation is bad but not that bad. It really isn’t a national emergency.

Doesn't matter if they're citizens or not, we should still help them. The border crisis is an emergency, and I think we just have different ways of handling it. I propose humane processing centers where people can rest for a while before coming into the US and becoming productive member of Society. You're proposing a wall, and detention centers where people die. Correct me if I'm wrong.

There will be people who die no matter what. That is inevitable. I don’t have an issue with processing centers being cleaner and bigger either. I just think we have to balance treating our souther neighbors benevolently and making sure we still have our nation’s best interests in mind.

[Radimostan]

They aren’t American Citizens and their situation is bad but not that bad. It really isn’t a national emergency.

Doesn't matter if they're citizens or not, we should still help them. The border crisis is an emergency, and I think we just have different ways of handling it. I propose humane processing centers where people can rest for a while before coming into the US and becoming productive member of Society. You're proposing a wall, and detention centers where people die. Correct me if I'm wrong.

there is already a way through which you can get to the US and become a productive member of the society without spending a night in detention

it's called legal imigration

[Pyta]

there is already a way through which you can get to the US and become a productive member of the society without spending a night in detention

it's called legal imigration

Asylum seeking is legal immigration and would you look at that we're putting people in camps for it

[Rossiyaana]

Doesn't matter if they're citizens or not, we should still help them. The border crisis is an emergency, and I think we just have different ways of handling it. I propose humane processing centers where people can rest for a while before coming into the US and becoming productive member of Society. You're proposing a wall, and detention centers where people die. Correct me if I'm wrong.

There will be people who die no matter what. That is inevitable. I don’t have an issue with processing centers being cleaner and bigger either. I just think we have to balance treating our souther neighbors benevolently and making sure we still have our nation’s best interests in mind.

I agree. Immigrants are a big boost to our economy, and without them our population would be dropping. They've become and integral part to the US. We just need to find a clean humane way to separate the honest people seeking refuge, or a new life and the criminals. We don't need detention centers and cages.

[Nova Cyberia]

there is already a way through which you can get to the US and become a productive member of the society without spending a night in detention

it's called legal imigration

Asylum seeking is legal immigration and would you look at that we're putting people in camps for it

While their claims are processed.

We tried to get them to stay in Mexico while their claims were being processed, but many seemed disagreeable to that idea.

[Libertas Omnium Maximus]

there is already a way through which you can get to the US and become a productive member of the society without spending a night in detention

it's called legal imigration

Asylum seeking is legal immigration and would you look at that we're putting people in camps for it

Processing centers. Would you prefer we leave them in Mexico while they are processed?

[Novus America]

There will be people who die no matter what. That is inevitable. I don’t have an issue with processing centers being cleaner and bigger either. I just think we have to balance treating our souther neighbors benevolently and making sure we still have our nation’s best interests in mind.

I agree. Immigrants are a big boost to our economy, and without them our population would be dropping. They've become and integral part to the US. We just need to find a clean humane way to separate the honest people seeking refuge, or a new life and the criminals. We don't need detention centers and cages.

Separating the good from the bad does require some form of detention until you can make the proper determination, which takes time.

[Libertas Omnium Maximus]

There will be people who die no matter what. That is inevitable. I don’t have an issue with processing centers being cleaner and bigger either. I just think we have to balance treating our souther neighbors benevolently and making sure we still have our nation’s best interests in mind.

I agree. Immigrants are a big boost to our economy, and without them our population would be dropping. They've become and integral part to the US. We just need to find a clean humane way to separate the honest people seeking refuge, or a new life and the criminals. We don't need detention centers and cages.

Immigrants are a good thing but not in excess. We have nearly reached that stage.

[Nakena]

Asylum seeking is legal immigration and would you look at that we're putting people in camps for it

While their claims are processed.

We tried to get them to stay in Mexico while their claims were being processed, but many seemed disagreeable to that idea.

Actually thats not a bad idea.

[Sintcam]

I thought America was a land of freedom and democracy? And yet here we are seeing migrants being treated like dirt.

Then go home, America doesn't owe these people anything just because they were too lazy to fix their own countries.

[Radimostan]

there is already a way through which you can get to the US and become a productive member of the society without spending a night in detention

it's called legal imigration

Asylum seeking is legal immigration and would you look at that we're putting people in camps for it

Asylum is for people who are politically oppressed, not for those who have low-paid jobs in their home country and want better. For those, there is a work visa. You don't get sent to a camp for those.

[Nova Cyberia]

While their claims are processed.

We tried to get them to stay in Mexico while their claims were being processed, but many seemed disagreeable to that idea.

Actually thats not a bad idea.

One would think so.

And yet people didn't like that idea. What's wrong with Mexico? I mean, Democrats swear it's not a shithole so the migrants should have little issue waiting there.

[Pyta]

Gonna repeat that we're spending $750 dollars a day to keep people in camps because everyone seems to be very concerned with ICE being underfunded or something

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/im ... 7c30f285e3

A whole $750 a day?! Clearly we're being bankrupted.

Am I to think that your argument here is "of course we can't give them beds, we're only spending 750 dollars a day per person on them" Like why does it cost ten times as much to keep them locked in a pen in a desert as it does to keep me in a fairly comfy bed in a nice apartment