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Members of a secret Facebook group for current and former Border Patrol agents joked about the deaths of migrants, discussed throwing burritos at Latino members of Congress visiting a detention facility in Texas on Monday and posted a vulgar illustration depicting Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez engaged in oral sex with a detained migrant, according to screenshots of their postings.

In one exchange, group members responded with indifference and wisecracks to the post of a news story about a 16-year-old Guatemalan migrant who died in May while in custody at a Border Patrol station in Weslaco, Texas. One member posted a GIF of Elmo with the quote, “Oh well.” Another responded with an image and the words “If he dies, he dies.”

Created in August 2016, the Facebook group is called “I’m 10-15” and boasts roughly 9,500 members from across the country. (10-15 is Border Patrol code for “aliens in custody.”) The group described itself, in an online introduction, as a forum for “funny” and “serious” discussion about work with the patrol. “Remember you are never alone in this family,” the introduction said.

Responsible for policing the nation’s southern and northern boundaries, the Border Patrol has come under intense scrutiny as the Trump administration takes new, more aggressive measures to halt the influx of undocumented migrants across the United States-Mexico border. The patrol’s approximately 20,000 agents serve under the broader U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency, which has been faulted for allegedly mistreating children and adults in its custody. The agency’s leadership has been in turmoil, with its most recent acting chief, John Sanders, resigning last week.

ProPublica received images of several recent discussions in the 10-15 Facebook group and was able to link the participants in those online conversations to apparently legitimate Facebook profiles belonging to Border Patrol agents, including a supervisor based in El Paso, Texas, and an agent in Eagle Pass, Texas. ProPublica has so far been unable to reach the group members who made the postings.

ProPublica contacted three spokespeople for CBP in regard to the Facebook group and provided the names of three agents who appear to have participated in the online chats. CBP hasn’t yet responded.

“These comments and memes are extremely troubling,” said Daniel Martinez, a sociologist at the University of Arizona in Tucson who studies the border. “They’re clearly xenophobic and sexist.”

The postings, in his view, reflect what “seems to be a pervasive culture of cruelty aimed at immigrants within CBP. This isn’t just a few rogue agents or ‘bad apples.’”

The Border Patrol Facebook group is the most recent example of some law enforcement personnel behaving badly in public and private digital spaces. An investigation by Reveal uncovered hundreds of active-duty and retired law enforcement officers who moved in extremist Facebook circles, including white supremacist and anti-government groups. A team of researchers calling themselves the Plain View Project recently released a hefty database of offensive Facebook posts made by current and ex-law enforcement officers.

And in early 2018, federal investigators found a raft of disturbing and racist text messages sent by Border Patrol agents in southern Arizona after searching the phone of Matthew Bowen, an agent charged with running down a Guatemalan migrant with a Ford F-150 pickup truck. The texts, which were revealed in a court filing in federal court in Tucson, described migrants as “guats,” “wild ass shitbags,” “beaners” and “subhuman.” The messages included repeated discussions about burning the migrants up.

Several of the postings reviewed by ProPublica refer to the planned visit by members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, including Ocasio-Cortez and Rep. Veronica Escobar, to a troubled Border Patrol facility outside of El Paso. Agents at the compound in Clint, Texas, have been accused of holding children in neglectful, inhumane conditions.

Members of the Border Patrol Facebook group were not enthused about the tour, noting that Ocasio-Cortez, a Democrat from Queens, had compared Border Patrol facilities to Nazi concentration camps. Escobar is a freshman Democrat representing El Paso.

One member encouraged Border Patrol agents to hurl a “burrito at these bitches.” Another, apparently a patrol supervisor, wrote, “Fuck the hoes.” “There should be no photo ops for these scum buckets,” posted a third member.

Perhaps the most disturbing posts target Ocasio-Cortez. One includes a photo illustration of her engaged in oral sex at an immigrant detention center. Text accompanying the image reads, “Lucky Illegal Immigrant Glory Hole Special Starring AOC.”

Another is a photo illustration of a smiling President Donald Trump forcing Ocasio-Cortez’s head toward his crotch. The agent who posted the image commented: “That’s right bitches. The masses have spoken and today democracy won.”

The posts about Escobar and Ocasio-Cortez are “vile and sexist,” said a staffer for Escobar. “Furthermore, the comments made by Border Patrol agents towards immigrants, especially those that have lost their lives, are disgusting and show a complete disregard for human life and dignity.”

The head of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, Joaquin Castro, reviewed the Facebook discussions and was incensed. “It confirms some of the worst criticisms of Customs and Border Protection,” said Castro, a Democrat who represents San Antonio. “These are clearly agents who are desensitized to the point of being dangerous to migrants and their co-workers.” He added that the agents who made the vulgar comments “don’t deserve to wear any uniform representing the United States of America.”

Vicki Gaubeca, director of the Southern Border Communities Coalition, said the postings are more evidence of the sexism and misogyny that has long plagued the Border Patrol. “That’s why they’re the worst at recruiting women,” said Gaubeca, whose group works to reform the agency. “They have the lowest percentage of female agents or officers of any federal law enforcement agency.”

In another thread, a group member posted a photo of father and his 23-month-old daughter lying face down in the Rio Grande. The pair drowned while trying to ford the river and cross into the U.S.; pictures of the two have circulated widely online in recent days, generating an outcry.

The member asked if the photo could have been faked because the bodies were so “clean.” (The picture was taken by an Associated Press photographer, and there is no indication that it was staged or manipulated.) “I HAVE NEVER SEEN FLOATERS LIKE THIS,” the person wrote, adding, “could this be another edited photo. We’ve all seen the dems and liberal parties do some pretty sick things…”


So, as it turns out, a sizeable portion of CBP is involved in what could be generously described as a very nasty Facebook group that seems to have a hard-on for cruelty and apathy towards the deaths of people they are supposedly responsible for... oh, and not being exactly the most impartial and cool-headed people when it comes to the politicians who are supposed to oversee them.

Man, it'd sure suck if Nancy Pelosi just gave them more money with no additional oversight or accountability.

Can't say I'm surprised that, as usual, the attitude towards AOC among chuds seems to be an embarrassingly intense state of constant horniness.

Literal hate boners. At least one out there probably has rape fantasies about her.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:14 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Liriena wrote:

Can't say I'm surprised that, as usual, the attitude towards AOC among chuds seems to be an embarrassingly intense state of constant horniness.

Literal hate boners.

It started with fake feet pics, and now it's progressed straight to porn photo manips. I wonder if they've started writing lewd fanfiction yet. Maybe they've even given her a hot fursona.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:15 pm

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Liriena wrote:Alright then, my flamboyant gay ass is going to repost this one more time.

Members of a secret Facebook group for current and former Border Patrol agents joked about the deaths of migrants, discussed throwing burritos at Latino members of Congress visiting a detention facility in Texas on Monday and posted a vulgar illustration depicting Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez engaged in oral sex with a detained migrant, according to screenshots of their postings.

In one exchange, group members responded with indifference and wisecracks to the post of a news story about a 16-year-old Guatemalan migrant who died in May while in custody at a Border Patrol station in Weslaco, Texas. One member posted a GIF of Elmo with the quote, “Oh well.” Another responded with an image and the words “If he dies, he dies.”

Created in August 2016, the Facebook group is called “I’m 10-15” and boasts roughly 9,500 members from across the country. (10-15 is Border Patrol code for “aliens in custody.”) The group described itself, in an online introduction, as a forum for “funny” and “serious” discussion about work with the patrol. “Remember you are never alone in this family,” the introduction said.

Responsible for policing the nation’s southern and northern boundaries, the Border Patrol has come under intense scrutiny as the Trump administration takes new, more aggressive measures to halt the influx of undocumented migrants across the United States-Mexico border. The patrol’s approximately 20,000 agents serve under the broader U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency, which has been faulted for allegedly mistreating children and adults in its custody. The agency’s leadership has been in turmoil, with its most recent acting chief, John Sanders, resigning last week.

ProPublica received images of several recent discussions in the 10-15 Facebook group and was able to link the participants in those online conversations to apparently legitimate Facebook profiles belonging to Border Patrol agents, including a supervisor based in El Paso, Texas, and an agent in Eagle Pass, Texas. ProPublica has so far been unable to reach the group members who made the postings.

ProPublica contacted three spokespeople for CBP in regard to the Facebook group and provided the names of three agents who appear to have participated in the online chats. CBP hasn’t yet responded.

“These comments and memes are extremely troubling,” said Daniel Martinez, a sociologist at the University of Arizona in Tucson who studies the border. “They’re clearly xenophobic and sexist.”

The postings, in his view, reflect what “seems to be a pervasive culture of cruelty aimed at immigrants within CBP. This isn’t just a few rogue agents or ‘bad apples.’”

The Border Patrol Facebook group is the most recent example of some law enforcement personnel behaving badly in public and private digital spaces. An investigation by Reveal uncovered hundreds of active-duty and retired law enforcement officers who moved in extremist Facebook circles, including white supremacist and anti-government groups. A team of researchers calling themselves the Plain View Project recently released a hefty database of offensive Facebook posts made by current and ex-law enforcement officers.

And in early 2018, federal investigators found a raft of disturbing and racist text messages sent by Border Patrol agents in southern Arizona after searching the phone of Matthew Bowen, an agent charged with running down a Guatemalan migrant with a Ford F-150 pickup truck. The texts, which were revealed in a court filing in federal court in Tucson, described migrants as “guats,” “wild ass shitbags,” “beaners” and “subhuman.” The messages included repeated discussions about burning the migrants up.

Several of the postings reviewed by ProPublica refer to the planned visit by members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, including Ocasio-Cortez and Rep. Veronica Escobar, to a troubled Border Patrol facility outside of El Paso. Agents at the compound in Clint, Texas, have been accused of holding children in neglectful, inhumane conditions.

Members of the Border Patrol Facebook group were not enthused about the tour, noting that Ocasio-Cortez, a Democrat from Queens, had compared Border Patrol facilities to Nazi concentration camps. Escobar is a freshman Democrat representing El Paso.

One member encouraged Border Patrol agents to hurl a “burrito at these bitches.” Another, apparently a patrol supervisor, wrote, “Fuck the hoes.” “There should be no photo ops for these scum buckets,” posted a third member.

Perhaps the most disturbing posts target Ocasio-Cortez. One includes a photo illustration of her engaged in oral sex at an immigrant detention center. Text accompanying the image reads, “Lucky Illegal Immigrant Glory Hole Special Starring AOC.”

Another is a photo illustration of a smiling President Donald Trump forcing Ocasio-Cortez’s head toward his crotch. The agent who posted the image commented: “That’s right bitches. The masses have spoken and today democracy won.”

The posts about Escobar and Ocasio-Cortez are “vile and sexist,” said a staffer for Escobar. “Furthermore, the comments made by Border Patrol agents towards immigrants, especially those that have lost their lives, are disgusting and show a complete disregard for human life and dignity.”

The head of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, Joaquin Castro, reviewed the Facebook discussions and was incensed. “It confirms some of the worst criticisms of Customs and Border Protection,” said Castro, a Democrat who represents San Antonio. “These are clearly agents who are desensitized to the point of being dangerous to migrants and their co-workers.” He added that the agents who made the vulgar comments “don’t deserve to wear any uniform representing the United States of America.”

Vicki Gaubeca, director of the Southern Border Communities Coalition, said the postings are more evidence of the sexism and misogyny that has long plagued the Border Patrol. “That’s why they’re the worst at recruiting women,” said Gaubeca, whose group works to reform the agency. “They have the lowest percentage of female agents or officers of any federal law enforcement agency.”

In another thread, a group member posted a photo of father and his 23-month-old daughter lying face down in the Rio Grande. The pair drowned while trying to ford the river and cross into the U.S.; pictures of the two have circulated widely online in recent days, generating an outcry.

The member asked if the photo could have been faked because the bodies were so “clean.” (The picture was taken by an Associated Press photographer, and there is no indication that it was staged or manipulated.) “I HAVE NEVER SEEN FLOATERS LIKE THIS,” the person wrote, adding, “could this be another edited photo. We’ve all seen the dems and liberal parties do some pretty sick things…”


So, as it turns out, a sizeable portion of CBP is involved in what could be generously described as a very nasty Facebook group that seems to have a hard-on for cruelty and apathy towards the deaths of people they are supposedly responsible for... oh, and not being exactly the most impartial and cool-headed people when it comes to the politicians who are supposed to oversee them.

Man, it'd sure suck if Nancy Pelosi just gave them more money with no additional oversight or accountability.

Cops have twisted sense of humor, I'm shocked. :roll:

So do doctors.

Anyone who works in jobs well you're around dead people can give them a pretty dark sense of humor. I fail to see why it's so surprising.
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Postby Nakena » Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:17 pm

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Gormwood wrote:Literal hate boners.

It started with fake feet pics, and now it's progressed straight to porn photo manips. I wonder if they've started writing lewd fanfiction yet. Maybe they've even given her a hot fursona.


They really get to appriciate AOC increasingly.

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Postby Nova Cyberia » Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:19 pm

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Can't say I'm surprised that, as usual, the attitude towards AOC among chuds seems to be an embarrassingly intense state of constant horniness.

Literal hate boners. At least one out there probably has rape fantasies about her.

She doesn't really do it for me. The horse teeth are a huge turnoff.
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Postby Novus America » Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:20 pm

The inappropriate Facebook comments made by some identifying as affiliated with the border patrol are being investigated.

It is interesting however to note the majority of border patrol agents are actually Hispanic.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:21 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Literal hate boners. At least one out there probably has rape fantasies about her.

She doesn't really do it for me. The horse teeth are a huge turnoff.

Ah, yeah, I'd forgotten how fixated right-wingers were on her teeth.

No judging, of course. I'm a canthal tilt man myself.
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Postby Gormwood » Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:22 pm

Liriena wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Literal hate boners.

It started with fake feet pics, and now it's progressed straight to porn photo manips. I wonder if they've started writing lewd fanfiction yet. Maybe they've even given her a hot fursona.

Eventually knock-off porn in the vein of Nailin' Palin.
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Does it really need attacking, AOC's biggest critic will always be herself.

That's very nice, fren, but you could give making an actual argument a shot. It's good exercise and too much pointless snark will make you bitter.


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Postby Nova Cyberia » Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:23 pm

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Nova Cyberia wrote:She doesn't really do it for me. The horse teeth are a huge turnoff.

Ah, yeah, I'd forgotten how fixated right-wingers were on her teeth.

No judging, of course. I'm a canthal tilt man myself.

Well, there's two groups of rightist thought on if she's hot or not:

1. The Hate Boner group: they hate her politically but find her attractive
2. The Horse Teeth group: guys like me who find her huge teeth a turnoff
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Liriena wrote:That's very nice, fren, but you could give making an actual argument a shot. It's good exercise and too much pointless snark will make you bitter.


There really isn't a point. It's like arguing with flat earthers. If you're on the wrong side of the debate, you've already abandoned sensibility.

Have you learned nothing from Dave Rubin? The debate must continue! The free marketplace of ideas demands your sacrifice!
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Liriena wrote:It started with fake feet pics, and now it's progressed straight to porn photo manips. I wonder if they've started writing lewd fanfiction yet. Maybe they've even given her a hot fursona.

Eventually knock-off porn in the vein of Nailin' Palin.


I mean there probably already is. There is already a huge amount of Trump, Hillary, Obama etc. porn.
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Gormwood wrote:Eventually knock-off porn in the vein of Nailin' Palin.


I mean there probably already is. There is already a huge amount of Trump, Hillary, Obama etc. porn.

So there might be Bernie Porn.
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Gormwood wrote:Eventually knock-off porn in the vein of Nailin' Palin.


I mean there probably already is. There is already a huge amount of Trump, Hillary, Obama etc. porn.

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I mean there probably already is. There is already a huge amount of Trump, Hillary, Obama etc. porn.

So there might be Bernie Porn.

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>tfw you realize Rule 34 means there's Dick Cheney porn
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Nova Cyberia wrote:>tfw you realize Rule 34 means there's Dick Cheney porn

Shotgun Blast In The Face. :twisted:
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: ICE and the CBP both need to be systematically dismantled and both their leadership and any subordinate personnel directly involved in these bullshit crimes against humanity tried and punished to the fullest extent of the law.
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Nova Cyberia wrote:>tfw you realize Rule 34 means there's Dick Cheney porn


It is actually a thing,
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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:35 pm

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Gormwood wrote:Literal hate boners. At least one out there probably has rape fantasies about her.

She doesn't really do it for me. The horse teeth are a huge turnoff.


I would, but I'd be thinking about you the entire time.

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Postby Novus America » Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:40 pm

Torrocca wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again: ICE and the CBP both need to be systematically dismantled and both their leadership and any subordinate personnel directly involved in these bullshit crimes against humanity tried and punished to the fullest extent of the law.


As you would literally disband all law enforcement agencies not saying anything at all.

However how exactly is disbanding a majority Hispanic organization (the Border Patrol) and thus putting thousands of Hispanics and their families out on the street, in the name of collective punishment (for something that is not even entirely in their control), going to help Hispanics exactly?

I mean nice to know what you would do to the working class and all but still.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:42 pm

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Nova Cyberia wrote:She doesn't really do it for me. The horse teeth are a huge turnoff.


I would, but I'd be thinking about you the entire time.

I'm flattered.
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Postby Telconi » Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:43 pm

Torrocca wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again: ICE and the CBP both need to be systematically dismantled and both their leadership and any subordinate personnel directly involved in these bullshit crimes against humanity tried and punished to the fullest extent of the law.


And it's just as stupid as the last time, and will be when you inevitably say it again.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:45 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
I would, but I'd be thinking about you the entire time.

I'm flattered.


It's the red nose and multicoloured hair. Makes me think of the feminazis I am subservient to.

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Postby Torrocca » Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:45 pm

Novus America wrote:
Torrocca wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again: ICE and the CBP both need to be systematically dismantled and both their leadership and any subordinate personnel directly involved in these bullshit crimes against humanity tried and punished to the fullest extent of the law.


As you would literally disband all law enforcement agencies


Yup.

However how exactly is disbanding a majority Hispanic organization (the Border Patrol) and thus putting thousands of Hispanics and their families out on the street, in the name of collective punishment (for something that is not even entirely in their control), going to help Hispanics exactly?


Interesting how you choose to play the race card to defend an organization that's currently committing crimes against humanity. Very interesting indeed.

I mean nice to know what you would do to the working class and all but still.


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