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You're right. Doing photo-ops at the border is a much better way to solve it.
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Postby Gormwood » Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:48 pm

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You're right. Doing photo-ops at the border is a much better way to solve it.
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Does an Image Show Ocasio-Cortez Fake-Crying at a Migrant Camp?
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You're right. Doing photo-ops at the border is a much better way to solve it.
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And a meme makes it better?
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:51 pm

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Nova Cyberia wrote:You're right. Doing photo-ops at the border is a much better way to solve it.
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Does an Image Show Ocasio-Cortez Fake-Crying at a Migrant Camp?

“It was just a genuine, found moment,” he said. “If we [the news media] weren’t there she still would have broken down, I think. She could see the entrance to the camps out in the distance.”


"It's false because her people said she was really crying. ;;^^((("

Ah Snopes, never change.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:53 pm

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You're right. Doing photo-ops at the border is a much better way to solve it.
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Do you have an actual solution that isn't just "throw them all out" or not?

Also I find it telling that you jump right to the character assassination rather than attacking anything she's said.
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Nova Cyberia wrote:
Gormwood wrote:The Clown Pepe flag is like the MAGA cap. A warning.

Does an Image Show Ocasio-Cortez Fake-Crying at a Migrant Camp?

“It was just a genuine, found moment,” he said. “If we [the news media] weren’t there she still would have broken down, I think. She could see the entrance to the camps out in the distance.”


"It's false because her people said she was really crying. ;;^^((("

Ah Snopes, never change.


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Postby Gormwood » Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:57 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Gormwood wrote:The Clown Pepe flag is like the MAGA cap. A warning.

Does an Image Show Ocasio-Cortez Fake-Crying at a Migrant Camp?

“It was just a genuine, found moment,” he said. “If we [the news media] weren’t there she still would have broken down, I think. She could see the entrance to the camps out in the distance.”


"It's false because her people said she was really crying. ;;^^((("

Ah Snopes, never change.

It shouldn't.

The so-called empty parking lot was in fact a roadway leading towards the Tornillo Border Patrol station, where thousands of migrant children were housed in a tent city.

“It wasn’t an empty parking lot; it’s an entrance and we [media and protesters] weren’t allowed to go past that,” Aguirre told us.

He sent us another photograph in which the roadway and the fence blocking access to the migrant camp could be seen:


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Postby Nova Cyberia » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:09 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:You're right. Doing photo-ops at the border is a much better way to solve it.


Do you have an actual solution that isn't just "throw them all out" or not?

Give funding to ICE and CBP to hire more agents, build better facilities and fund the acquisition of adequate supplies to deal with the migrants. Send lawyers to help process these people's claims. If they have legitimate claims to asylum then let them in. If not then they can fuck off back to where they came from. And no, just being poor in a poor country is not grounds for asylum.

Then fund the construction of wall in areas where the flow of migrants is the highest.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:09 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:

"It's false because her people said she was really crying. ;;^^((("

Ah Snopes, never change.

It shouldn't.

The so-called empty parking lot was in fact a roadway leading towards the Tornillo Border Patrol station, where thousands of migrant children were housed in a tent city.

“It wasn’t an empty parking lot; it’s an entrance and we [media and protesters] weren’t allowed to go past that,” Aguirre told us.

He sent us another photograph in which the roadway and the fence blocking access to the migrant camp could be seen:


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Okay, it wasn't an empty lot.

It was an empty road.

Such substantial differences.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:12 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:You're right. Doing photo-ops at the border is a much better way to solve it.
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Does an Image Show Ocasio-Cortez Fake-Crying at a Migrant Camp?

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Postby Liriena » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:12 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Gormwood wrote:It shouldn't.



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Okay, it wasn't an empty lot.

It was an empty road.

Such substantial differences.

Your boomery is quaint.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:14 pm

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Nova Cyberia wrote:Okay, it wasn't an empty lot.

It was an empty road.

Such substantial differences.

Your boomery is quaint.

Your zoomery is quaint.
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Liriena wrote:Your boomery is quaint.

Your zoomery is quaint.

No lazy memery can cover for the fact that you tried to use fake news as a gotcha and the best you've got in response is new goalposts and denying your corncobbed state.
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Postby Nakena » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:17 pm

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Nova Cyberia wrote:Your zoomery is quaint.

No lazy memery can cover for the fact that you tried to use fake news as a gotcha and the best you've got in response is new goalposts and denying your corncobbed state.


I've had to look that up.

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Liriena wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:Your zoomery is quaint.

No lazy memery can cover for the fact that you tried to use fake news as a gotcha and the best you've got in response is new goalposts and denying your corncobbed state.

Credit where it's due, though: at least you used a meme spread by some FB grandma rather than an Infowars article.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:20 pm

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Nova Cyberia wrote:Your zoomery is quaint.

No lazy memery can cover for the fact that you tried to use fake news as a gotcha and the best you've got in response is new goalposts and denying your corncobbed state.

I don't really see how it's fake news to doubt that she was crying in front of nothing. It's an empty road. An entrance to the facility. There's nothing there worth crying over (probably why you never actually see any tears). She's either covering her face or looking semi-angrily into the camera. Minute differences of parking lot vs empty don't detract from the overall point that she's a fraud. She's a Congresswoman. She had to know you can't just walk inside.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:21 pm

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Liriena wrote:No lazy memery can cover for the fact that you tried to use fake news as a gotcha and the best you've got in response is new goalposts and denying your corncobbed state.

Credit where it's due, though: at least you used a meme spread by some FB grandma rather than an Infowars article.

Yes, Liri, we all fit your low-effort stereotypes.
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Postby Gormwood » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:29 pm

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Liriena wrote:No lazy memery can cover for the fact that you tried to use fake news as a gotcha and the best you've got in response is new goalposts and denying your corncobbed state.

I don't really see how it's fake news to doubt that she was crying in front of nothing. It's an empty road. An entrance to the facility. There's nothing there worth crying over (probably why you never actually see any tears). She's either covering her face or looking semi-angrily into the camera. Minute differences of parking lot vs empty don't detract from the overall point that she's a fraud. She's a Congresswoman. She had to know you can't just walk inside.

Go on and keep pretending she chose to cry in front of an empty road rather than being blocked from the detention facility the road led to that she wanted to protest since it makes you feel less embarassed about trying to use a disproven hackery to score points.
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Liriena wrote:No lazy memery can cover for the fact that you tried to use fake news as a gotcha and the best you've got in response is new goalposts and denying your corncobbed state.

I don't really see how it's fake news to doubt that she was crying in front of nothing. It's an empty road. An entrance to the facility. There's nothing there worth crying over.

Except the fact that she knew that, within that facility, there were people being held in concentration camps but go off

Nova Cyberia wrote:(probably why you never actually see any tears) She's either covering her face or looking semi-angrily into the camera.

Now we're getting into the real cream of the conservative bad faith criticism crop: nitpicking the most minute details of their opponents' gestures for proof of insincerity.

You've been watching too many episodes of Lie To Me. Can't say I blame you, though. Tim Roth is great.

Nova Cyberia wrote:Minute differences of parking lot vs empty

The "minute difference" being that your "source" was making shit up. Whatever overall point you were trying to make was built on false premises. You can't salvage that shit.

Nova Cyberia wrote:don't detract from the overall point that she's a fraud.

"I'm gonna prove that AOC is a fraud by posting a misleading meme and nitpick her gestures"

So cool.
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Liriena wrote:Credit where it's due, though: at least you used a meme spread by some FB grandma rather than an Infowars article.

Yes, Liri, we all fit your low-effort stereotypes.

If you don't want to be stereotyped, stop being a stereotype.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:33 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Liriena wrote:Credit where it's due, though: at least you used a meme spread by some FB grandma rather than an Infowars article.

Yes, Liri, we all fit your low-effort stereotypes.


No need to inflate as she just means you. Memes are a lazy argument.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:34 pm

Liriena wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:I don't really see how it's fake news to doubt that she was crying in front of nothing. It's an empty road. An entrance to the facility. There's nothing there worth crying over.

Except the fact that she knew that, within that facility, there were people being held in concentration camps but go off

Yes, I know. Just standing down the road from it must truly be heart-wrenching.

Nova Cyberia wrote:(probably why you never actually see any tears) She's either covering her face or looking semi-angrily into the camera.

Now we're getting into the real cream of the conservative bad faith criticism crop: nitpicking the most minute details of their opponents' gestures for proof of insincerity.

You've been watching too many episodes of Lie To Me. Can't say I blame you, though. Tim Roth is great.

You really have garbage taste in TV shows.

Nova Cyberia wrote:Minute differences of parking lot vs empty

The "minute difference" being that your "source" was making shit up. Whatever overall point you were trying to make was built on false premises. You can't salvage that shit.

And yet here I go.

Wow, it's almost as if said minute differences don't really do much for you.

Nova Cyberia wrote:don't detract from the overall point that she's a fraud.

"I'm gonna prove that AOC is a fraud by posting a misleading meme and nitpick her gestures"

So cool.

"Nitpicking"

I'm sorry, but is there a video? Because if not then the mostly misleading pictures that are taken from such an angle that they hide the fact that it's an empty lot road are all one can go off of.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:35 pm

Liriena wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:Yes, Liri, we all fit your low-effort stereotypes.

If you don't want to be stereotyped, stop being a stereotype.

Honk honk ;3

Coming from someone who goes out of their way to be a gay stereotype.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:40 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Liriena wrote:Except the fact that she knew that, within that facility, there were people being held in concentration camps but go off

Yes, I know. Just standing down the road from it must truly be heart-wrenching.

Apparently so.

You haven't actually demonstrated that she was "faking" it. You're just being cynical, and cynicism is not proof.

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Now we're getting into the real cream of the conservative bad faith criticism crop: nitpicking the most minute details of their opponents' gestures for proof of insincerity.

You've been watching too many episodes of Lie To Me. Can't say I blame you, though. Tim Roth is great.

You really have garbage taste in TV shows.

Thanks for the constructive feedback on my personal tastes in cultural products. Do you actually want to start a dick-waving contest on our preferences or is this just another one of your infantile attempts to piss outside of the jar and derail the discussion?

Nova Cyberia wrote:
The "minute difference" being that your "source" was making shit up. Whatever overall point you were trying to make was built on false premises. You can't salvage that shit.

And yet here I go.

Yeah, there you go, trying to salvage an argument built on a lie.

Nova Cyberia wrote:
"I'm gonna prove that AOC is a fraud by posting a misleading meme and nitpick her gestures"

So cool.

"Nitpicking"

I'm sorry, but is there a video?

Why are you asking me? You're the one who started this hilarious tangent, so I assume that you'd be well-informed on it enough to know if there is.
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