Border Patrol Is Detaining Migrants in ‘a Human Dog Pound’

[Vassenor]

At last someone is being honest. Here is the reason for this venal, corrupt, callous, lawless, feckless Administration's concentration camps for children. It gladdens the hearts of its most deplorable supporters to know that brown people are suffering at its hands. They care not for the congenital moral failings of its leaders, their inability to do anything but appeal to a narrow "base," the festering health care crisis in rural red states, the inequality-boosting tax cuts for the ultrawealthy, the constant attacks on separation of powers, the electoral collusion with our adversaries. As long as it keeps kicking migrants, minorities and women in the teeth at every possible opportunity it will have their votes.

So these imigrant detention centres are the "concentration camps" that I've heard about? I'm going to bet that they're not actaully called "concentration camps" and it's actually just a crass attempt to stoke up emotions with the obvious WW2 comparison.

Oh here we go again.

[SD_Film Artists]

So these imigrant detention centres are the "concentration camps" that I've heard about? I'm going to bet that they're not actaully called "concentration camps" and it's actually just a crass attempt to stoke up emotions with the obvious WW2 comparison.

Oh here we go again.

Was I incorrect in my wild assumption?

[Tornado Queendom]

At last someone is being honest. Here is the reason for this venal, corrupt, callous, lawless, feckless Administration's concentration camps for children. It gladdens the hearts of its most deplorable supporters to know that brown people are suffering at its hands. They care not for the congenital moral failings of its leaders, their inability to do anything but appeal to a narrow "base," the festering health care crisis in rural red states, the inequality-boosting tax cuts for the ultrawealthy, the constant attacks on separation of powers, the electoral collusion with our adversaries. As long as it keeps kicking migrants, minorities and women in the teeth at every possible opportunity it will have their votes.

So these imigrant detention centres are the "concentration camps" that I've heard about? I'm going to bet that they're not actaully called "concentration camps" and it's actually just a crass attempt to stoke up emotions with the obvious WW2 comparison.

Next thing you know, they'll be calling actual houses "concentration camps" because they have locks and ovens.

[Vassenor]

Oh here we go again.

Was I incorrect in my wild assumption?

You're not the first person to complain about calling a concentration camp a concentration camp, if that's what you're asking.

[Tornado Queendom]

Was I incorrect in my wild assumption?

You're not the first person to complain about calling a concentration camp a concentration camp, if that's what you're asking.

They can't be called concentration camps because there's no genocide involved, and starting a genocide is unconstitutional.

[Vassenor]

You're not the first person to complain about calling a concentration camp a concentration camp, if that's what you're asking.

They can't be called concentration camps because there's no genocide involved, and starting a genocide is unconstitutional.

Didn't we already explain to you that "concentration camp" =/= "death camp"?

Unless you'd like to explain what genocides were going on during the Second Boer War.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

You're not the first person to complain about calling a concentration camp a concentration camp, if that's what you're asking.

They can't be called concentration camps because there's no genocide involved, and starting a genocide is unconstitutional.

You are confusing concentration camps with extermination camps.

[SD_Film Artists]

Was I incorrect in my wild assumption?

You're not the first person to complain about calling a concentration camp a concentration camp, if that's what you're asking.

I wasn't complaining, I was just seeking clarity as I remember that in a seperate thread someone made a similar mistake in regards to the Boar War. Are these imigration centres or are they Nazi death camps?

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They can't be called concentration camps because there's no genocide involved, and starting a genocide is unconstitutional.

Didn't we already explain to you that "concentration camp" =/= "death camp"?

Unless you'd like to explain what genocides were going on during the Second Boer War.

Oh wow, I didn't expect you to actually bring it up, I genuinely meant that it was in another thread!

[Vassenor]

You're not the first person to complain about calling a concentration camp a concentration camp, if that's what you're asking.

I wasn't complaining, I was just seeking clarity as I remember that in a seperate thread someone made a similar mistake in regards to the Boar War. Are these imigration centres or are they Nazi death camps?

Edit:

Didn't we already explain to you that "concentration camp" =/= "death camp"?

Unless you'd like to explain what genocides were going on during the Second Boer War.

Oh wow, I didn't expect you to actually bring it up, I genuinely meant that it was in another thread!

So you concede that it's possible for it to be a concentration camp without being an extermination camp?

[Tornado Queendom]

They can't be called concentration camps because there's no genocide involved, and starting a genocide is unconstitutional.

Didn't we already explain to you that "concentration camp" =/= "death camp"?

Unless you'd like to explain what genocides were going on during the Second Boer War.

I wouldn't call the migrant houses concentration camps, and even if I would, they would be like the luxury hotels compared to other concentration camps. It's not like legal immigrants are being treated this way.

They can't be called concentration camps because there's no genocide involved, and starting a genocide is unconstitutional.

You are confusing concentration camps with extermination camps.

No, I'm saying that there's no POSSIBLE genocide involved. The point is that Trump will NEVER start a genocide because even if it wasn't unconstitutional, Trump is smart enough not to kill possibly millions of a particular race.

[Vassenor]

Didn't we already explain to you that "concentration camp" =/= "death camp"?

Unless you'd like to explain what genocides were going on during the Second Boer War.

I wouldn't call the migrant houses concentration camps, and even if I would, they would be like the luxury hotels compared to other concentration camps. It's not like legal immigrants are being treated this way.

You are confusing concentration camps with extermination camps.

No, I'm saying that there's no POSSIBLE genocide involved. The point is that Trump will NEVER start a genocide because even if it wasn't unconstitutional, Trump is smart enough not to kill possibly millions of a particular race.

Where does the definition of a concentration camp require any intent to commit genocide?

[Tornado Queendom]

I wouldn't call the migrant houses concentration camps, and even if I would, they would be like the luxury hotels compared to other concentration camps. It's not like legal immigrants are being treated this way.

No, I'm saying that there's no POSSIBLE genocide involved. The point is that Trump will NEVER start a genocide because even if it wasn't unconstitutional, Trump is smart enough not to kill possibly millions of a particular race.

Where does the definition of a concentration camp require any intent to commit genocide?

OK, but not all concentration camps are bad. Some might actually be necessary, like with Guantanamo Bay.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

No, I'm saying that there's no POSSIBLE genocide involved. The point is that Trump will NEVER start a genocide because even if it wasn't unconstitutional, Trump is smart enough not to kill possibly millions of a particular race.

I know what you are saying, but as concentration camps don't have to be anything to do with genocide, it's a weird thing to say.

It's about interning people in camps without trial. Which is not a great thing in itself.

[SD_Film Artists]

I wasn't complaining, I was just seeking clarity as I remember that in a seperate thread someone made a similar mistake in regards to the Boar War. Are these imigration centres or are they Nazi death camps?

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Oh wow, I didn't expect you to actually bring it up, I genuinely meant that it was in another thread!

So you concede that it's possible for it to be a concentration camp without being an extermination camp?

That's exactly my point; it's technically true but you know that you're trying to make it sound like 'extermination camp' anyway. It's like saying- "I'm going on a gay pride march. Oh you thought I was homosexual? No I meant that I'm proud for being joyous in a 1950's way."

[Vassenor]

Where does the definition of a concentration camp require any intent to commit genocide?

OK, but not all concentration camps are bad. Some might actually be necessary, like with Guantanamo Bay.

You're not really helping your case here. Gitmo being unnecessary isn't really a controversial opinion.

[Kill whitey]

Where does the definition of a concentration camp require any intent to commit genocide?

OK, but not all concentration camps are bad. Some might actually be necessary, like with Guantanamo Bay.

Guantanamo bay, necessary? HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH, ahem, uh, no.

[Novus America]

I wouldn't call the migrant houses concentration camps, and even if I would, they would be like the luxury hotels compared to other concentration camps. It's not like legal immigrants are being treated this way.

No, I'm saying that there's no POSSIBLE genocide involved. The point is that Trump will NEVER start a genocide because even if it wasn't unconstitutional, Trump is smart enough not to kill possibly millions of a particular race.

Where does the definition of a concentration camp require any intent to commit genocide?

It does require you to purposely target a certain ethnic or social group. It still requires a desire to ethnically cleanse or oppress a group, even without killing them.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Where does the definition of a concentration camp require any intent to commit genocide?

It does require you to purposely target a certain ethnic or social group. It still requires a desire to ethnically cleanse or oppress a group, even without killing them.

Yeah, but there is a large gap between persecution (the crime of violating fundamental human rights with regards to a specific population), a crime against humanity, and genocide (the purposeful killing with intent to destroy).

A concentration camp is, by existing, a crime against humanity.

[Novus America]

It does require you to purposely target a certain ethnic or social group. It still requires a desire to ethnically cleanse or oppress a group, even without killing them.

Yeah, but there is a large gap between persecution (the crime of violating fundamental human rights with regards to a specific population), a crime against humanity, and genocide (the purposeful killing with intent to destroy).

A concentration camp is, by existing, a crime against humanity.

Yes, a non extermination ethnic or religious persecution based concentration camp is obviously still bad. No matter how well you treat the people in it.

[Vassenor]

Yeah, but there is a large gap between persecution (the crime of violating fundamental human rights with regards to a specific population), a crime against humanity, and genocide (the purposeful killing with intent to destroy).

A concentration camp is, by existing, a crime against humanity.

Yes, a non extermination ethnic or religious persecution based concentration camp is obviously still bad. No matter how well you treat the people in it.

And it's totally a coincidence that ICE is only targeting Hispanic illegal migrants.

[Kowani]

Live Testimony about the Separated Children

[Novus America]

Yes, a non extermination ethnic or religious persecution based concentration camp is obviously still bad. No matter how well you treat the people in it.

And it's totally a coincidence that ICE is only targeting Hispanic illegal migrants.

Except, that is completely false. Non Hispanic illegal immigrants have been detained as well.

[Paddy O Fernature]

So these imigrant detention centres are the "concentration camps" that I've heard about? I'm going to bet that they're not actaully called "concentration camps" and it's actually just a crass attempt to stoke up emotions with the obvious WW2 comparison.

Oh here we go again.

^ SD is right you know Vass.

[Kowani]

Oh here we go again.

^ SD is right you know Vass.

Would you all be happy if they were called internment camps, instead?

[Paddy O Fernature]

^ SD is right you know Vass.

Would you all be happy if they were called internment camps, instead?

I prefer to call them what they are, Detention Centers.