Border Patrol Is Detaining Migrants in ‘a Human Dog Pound’

[Fartsniffage]

It's the red nose and multicoloured hair. Makes me think of the feminazis I am subservient to.

"Um, maybe we should've just let them keep playing 'You're a shitposter!' tennis..." - NationStates Moderators, right now (probably)

It's just a bit of fun. Something the kids held in these concentration camps are unlikely to be having. Are you American conservatives trying to implement no fun worldwide and not just in your camps?

[Torrocca]

Ah, I guess I actually do support the idea of swearing allegiance to morally apprehensible people because they make the same paycheck as I do. Thanks for telling me what I actually believe, Tel. I'd never know what I truly believe without you here to tell me with your totally-not-a-strawman post.

Uh huh, please point out where I attributed that explanation to you.

CBP and ICE are not deliberately committing crimes. They physically do not have the supplies to deal with the waves of migrants. The only way they can get the money for more supplies is through Congress.

Also, why should class loyalty be a thing?

Because morally horrifying people deserve your allegiance based upon having paychecks as big as yours.

[Telconi]

Obviously you support oppression, you always go on about the people you wish to collectively punish.

It's almost like, sometimes, people sometimes deserve an appropriate punishment for the heinous shit they do, like exacerbating the sufferings of innocent people by shoving them into concentration camps because they committed the crime of being born on the wrong side of a line in the sand! Wow! What an amazing concept that nobody in the history of humanity ever thought of before this very second!

And yes, despite serious issues do to a lack of adequate resources they are in fact doing what they can to protect people, but okay.

TIL'd people are being protected because some agents of the state are stuffing other people into concentration camps. Interesting.

All cops are literally Nazis and Nazis get the gulag right?

It sure is weird how I never said anything of the sort. Almost like you're intentionally strawmanning my position in lieu of any actual argument or something. Hmm.

You talking about "appropriate punishment" is amusing.

[Telconi]

Uh huh, please point out where I attributed that explanation to you.

Because morally horrifying people deserve your allegiance based upon having paychecks as big as yours.

You have to actually provide the thing happening as an example...

[Nova Cyberia]

"Um, maybe we should've just let them keep playing 'You're a shitposter!' tennis..." - NationStates Moderators, right now (probably)

It's just a bit of fun. Something the kids held in these concentration camps are unlikely to be having. Are you American conservatives trying to implement no fun worldwide and not just in your camps?

That's not true at all. We'll bring them board games while their claims are being processed.

[Novus America]

Well they hate them for being police by default. No matter what they do as police the are automatically evil for being police in that posters eyes.

You know, I have a cousin who's a cop. He's a family man who does actually care about people.

But hey, he's just a class traitor so who cares about him?

Yup. Because when you are shitposting on the internet you can just attack the faceless other, ignoring that real people are affected by policy, because you have no impact on policy.

[Fartsniffage]

I know.

Is there any? Or are you just drunk again?

Of course there is. People helping each other is a good thing. People not helping each other is a bad thing. Especially if they're from the same background and so would actually know what kind of help would actually help.

[Nova Cyberia]

Obviously you support oppression, you always go on about the people you wish to collectively punish.

It's almost like, sometimes, people sometimes deserve an appropriate punishment for the heinous shit they do, like exacerbating the sufferings of innocent people by shoving them into concentration camps because they committed the crime of being born on the wrong side of a line in the sand! Wow! What an amazing concept that nobody in the history of humanity ever thought of before this very second!

And yes, despite serious issues do to a lack of adequate resources they are in fact doing what they can to protect people, but okay.

TIL'd people are being protected because some agents of the state are stuffing other people into concentration camps. Interesting.

All cops are literally Nazis and Nazis get the gulag right?

It sure is weird how I never said anything of the sort. Almost like you're intentionally strawmanning my position in lieu of any actual argument or something. Hmm.

You're telling us CBP doesn't stop human traffickers and protect human trafficking victims?

Hm... that sounds like a lie...

[Torrocca]

It's almost like, sometimes, people sometimes deserve an appropriate punishment for the heinous shit they do, like exacerbating the sufferings of innocent people by shoving them into concentration camps because they committed the crime of being born on the wrong side of a line in the sand! Wow! What an amazing concept that nobody in the history of humanity ever thought of before this very second!



TIL'd people are being protected because some agents of the state are stuffing other people into concentration camps. Interesting.



It sure is weird how I never said anything of the sort. Almost like you're intentionally strawmanning my position in lieu of any actual argument or something. Hmm.

You talking about "appropriate punishment" is amusing.

Yeah, it's almost like I despise crimes against humanity or something. Especially on account of the fact that my ideological beliefs stem from a desire to make the world as best a place as possible for people. That sure is really weird and amusing.

[Vaerehnor]

Hey, Remember when this guy did the same thing and nobody did anything about it? Remember what happened then? Do you remember?

[Fartsniffage]

It's just a bit of fun. Something the kids held in these concentration camps are unlikely to be having. Are you American conservatives trying to implement no fun worldwide and not just in your camps?

That's not true at all. We'll bring them board games while their claims are being processed.

I think they'd prefer food, potable water, soap, and tooth brushes. No one wants to be the smelly kid at the Monopoly board....

[Fartsniffage]

Hey, Remember when this guy did the same thing and nobody did anything about it? Remember what happened then? Do you remember?

We got roads without speed limits. They're fucking awesome.

[Telconi]

Is there any? Or are you just drunk again?

Of course there is. People helping each other is a good thing. People not helping each other is a bad thing. Especially if they're from the same background and so would actually know what kind of help would actually help.

So if I asked you to help me murder people, it would be good for you to help me?

[Nova Cyberia]

That's not true at all. We'll bring them board games while their claims are being processed.

I think they'd prefer food, potable water, soap, and tooth brushes. No one wants to be the smelly kid at the Monopoly board....

Talk to Congress about it. CBP can't get those supplies for them without Congress.

[Anagonia]

I like how everyone assumes the rest of the world operates according to their version of "America" and "Freedom". Almost like them folks who keep bike trekking in notorious parts of the world and end up dead.

[Novus America]

Obviously you support oppression, you always go on about the people you wish to collectively punish.

It's almost like, sometimes, people sometimes deserve an appropriate punishment for the heinous shit they do, like exacerbating the sufferings of innocent people by shoving them into concentration camps because they committed the crime of being born on the wrong side of a line in the sand! Wow! What an amazing concept that nobody in the history of humanity ever thought of before this very second!

And yes, despite serious issues do to a lack of adequate resources they are in fact doing what they can to protect people, but okay.

TIL'd people are being protected because some agents of the state are stuffing other people into concentration camps. Interesting.

All cops are literally Nazis and Nazis get the gulag right?

It sure is weird how I never said anything of the sort. Almost like you're intentionally strawmanning my position in lieu of any actual argument or something. Hmm.

Sometimes detainment is necessary to protect others. Something you yourself could not disagree with as you have said how much you want to punish your political opponents. Or is it to just make them suffer instead of protect?

Regardless your claim to support political violence is well known.
Ironically this would lead to what you claim to be fighting against.

The ideology you claim to support is beyond incoherent.

[Fartsniffage]

Of course there is. People helping each other is a good thing. People not helping each other is a bad thing. Especially if they're from the same background and so would actually know what kind of help would actually help.

So if I asked you to help me murder people, it would be good for you to help me?

Depends why you wanted to murder the people. If they're a bunch of child abusers that the government can't touch for some reason then it would be good. If it was a knitting group who secretly leave food parcels at houses who are struggling then it would be bad.

If the help was for people to succeed in life then it's almost always good. There will be exceptions, that's why on the Sith and Republicans deal in absolutes.

[Novus America]

You talking about "appropriate punishment" is amusing.

Yeah, it's almost like I despise crimes against humanity or something. Especially on account of the fact that my ideological beliefs stem from a desire to make the world as best a place as possible for people. That sure is really weird and amusing.

By committing mass political violence (crimes against humanity).
See those on the receiving end of your proposed (thankfully purely theoretical and completely impotent in reality) violence and hate probably do not think it would make things better for them.

[Telconi]

You talking about "appropriate punishment" is amusing.

Yeah, it's almost like I despise crimes against humanity or something. Especially on account of the fact that my ideological beliefs stem from a desire to make the world as best a place as possible for people. That sure is really weird and amusing.

Your ideological beliefs are a crime against humanity.

[Telconi]

So if I asked you to help me murder people, it would be good for you to help me?

Depends why you wanted to murder the people. If they're a bunch of child abusers that the government can't touch for some reason then it would be good. If it was a knitting group who secretly leave food parcels at houses who are struggling then it would be bad.

If the help was for people to succeed in life then it's almost always good. There will be exceptions, that's why on the Sith and Republicans deal in absolutes.

So it matters if the people actually deserve help or not?

[Torrocca]

It's almost like, sometimes, people sometimes deserve an appropriate punishment for the heinous shit they do, like exacerbating the sufferings of innocent people by shoving them into concentration camps because they committed the crime of being born on the wrong side of a line in the sand! Wow! What an amazing concept that nobody in the history of humanity ever thought of before this very second!



TIL'd people are being protected because some agents of the state are stuffing other people into concentration camps. Interesting.



It sure is weird how I never said anything of the sort. Almost like you're intentionally strawmanning my position in lieu of any actual argument or something. Hmm.

Sometimes detainment is necessary to protect others.

Yes, because we all know those thousands of kids and elderly people - among others - being stuffed into these concentration camps are an existential threat to America. Riiight.

Something you yourself could not disagree with as you have said how much you want to punish your political opponents. Or is it to just make them suffer instead of protect?

Regardless your claim to support political violence is well known.

You do realize you're not making your arguments more appealing by continuously making up these piss-poor strawmen about my beliefs, right?

Ironically this would lead to what you claim to be fighting against.

TIL'd having a desire to put an end to concentration camps = having a desire to create more concentration camps.

10/10

The ideology you claim to support is beyond incoherent.

Nah, it's really not.

[Torrocca]

Yeah, it's almost like I despise crimes against humanity or something. Especially on account of the fact that my ideological beliefs stem from a desire to make the world as best a place as possible for people. That sure is really weird and amusing.

Your ideological beliefs are a crime against humanity.

WATCH as an ANARKITTY gets ABSOLUTELY DESTROYED by this FACTS and LOGIC-laden rebuttal!

It really is fucking funny how this is somehow the "best" rebuttal you can think of in response to somebody saying they despise crimes against humanity.

Yeah, it's almost like I despise crimes against humanity or something. Especially on account of the fact that my ideological beliefs stem from a desire to make the world as best a place as possible for people. That sure is really weird and amusing.

By committing mass political violence (crimes against humanity).

Was this supposed to say something?

See those on the receiving end of your proposed violence and hate probably do not think it would make things better for them.

It sure is really weird how I'm not proposing violence or hate. It's almost like, yet again, you're creating another strawman about my beliefs (which, funnily enough, still aren't the topic at hand) in lieu of an actual argument.

[Fartsniffage]

Depends why you wanted to murder the people. If they're a bunch of child abusers that the government can't touch for some reason then it would be good. If it was a knitting group who secretly leave food parcels at houses who are struggling then it would be bad.

If the help was for people to succeed in life then it's almost always good. There will be exceptions, that's why on the Sith and Republicans deal in absolutes.

So it matters if the people actually deserve help or not?

Where did I say that? Everyone deserves help if they want it. What they want help with is what's at question. For example, I would help you with a mortgage payment if I could and you needed it. I wouldn't help you buy an oz of cocaine. You see the difference?

[Telconi]

Your ideological beliefs are a crime against humanity.

WATCH as an ANARKITTY gets ABSOLUTELY DESTROYED by this FACTS and LOGIC-laden rebuttal!

It really is fucking funny how this is somehow the "best" rebuttal you can think of in response to somebody saying they despise crimes against humanity.

By committing mass political violence (crimes against humanity).

Was this supposed to say something?

See those on the receiving end of your proposed violence and hate probably do not think it would make things better for them.

It sure is really weird how I'm not proposing violence or hate. It's almost like, yet again, you're creating another strawman about my beliefs (which, funnily enough, still aren't the topic at hand) in lieu of an actual argument.

I mean. What other rebuttal is there other than calling you a liar?

[Torrocca]

WATCH as an ANARKITTY gets ABSOLUTELY DESTROYED by this FACTS and LOGIC-laden rebuttal!

It really is fucking funny how this is somehow the "best" rebuttal you can think of in response to somebody saying they despise crimes against humanity.



Was this supposed to say something?



It sure is really weird how I'm not proposing violence or hate. It's almost like, yet again, you're creating another strawman about my beliefs (which, funnily enough, still aren't the topic at hand) in lieu of an actual argument.

I mean. What other rebuttal is there other than calling you a liar?

Ah, I guess I'm also somehow fucking lying about my hatred toward crimes against humanity.

Well, I'm done here responding to you, I suppose.