Border Patrol Is Detaining Migrants in ‘a Human Dog Pound’

[Hirota]

Today in "shit nobody said"...

I mean that's what happens when you tend to just spout myths verbatim with no actual supporting evidence.

Oh look, you've got someone else to play that game with!

What say you NSG?

America (both continents) is basically in the midst of it's own refugee crisis at the moment, that has been building up even before venezuela. You'd think the US would be better equipped to deal with it than Turkey was.

[Saiwania]

I have no objections to what is happening and my thinking if that if conditions are bad enough, that perhaps most of these people will head back to where they came from if given the choice to be deported, failing that- they should be indefinitely held where they are in my view, to coerce them into accepting the deportation.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Actually the people who file immigrants' applications to citizenship determine who becomes a citizen. You and I take no part in that. Also, giving amnesty to 11+ million illegal immigrants make yhem noy illegal anymore. I'd love that.

Yes but it's the voters who are supposed to decide how many immigrants are let in and what the criteria should be.

Again, incorrect. The people who decide how many immigrants are let in are the people reviewing the immigrants' applications. The criteria are set by the federal government. We still don't play a part in that.

And no, no one should be here without being properly vetted.

True.

[Nova Cyberia]

Well, that tends to be what happens when they don't have the proper resources to deal with the fucking endless waves of migrants.

[The Emerald Legion]

Also. Fun fact. You can pretty easily gain citizenship in the USA.

Just join the Military. One year in you can apply for Citizenship and bam. US citizen.

[Galloism]

Agreed.

Dear World,

We’ve decided it’s racist for all of you to have your own countries. Pursuant to this, please be prepared to join the United States or be conquered. In an attempt to be orderly, we will be conquering you in reverse alphabetical order. This will take place using the English name for your country, and word prefixes like “new” or “United” will be disregarded for this purpose.

We will issue you a number. Please be patient, and we will attempt to conquer you as quickly as our representatives can do so.

Thank you, and have a nice day.

President Trump
United States of America

After centuries of war, a brave soldier will plant an American flag in the carpet-bombed remains of what was the last foreign country, look off into the distance while basking in the light of the afternoon sun and whisper, "Rest in peace, racism."

Your destruction may be recorded for training purposes.

[Rojava Free State]

Apparently the president is now arguing that the kids in detention don't need toilets, teeth brushes or soap. Recent investigations of facilities also revealed hordes of sick children who were receiving little, if any medical treatment. At this point anyone who still doesn't view these prisons as a violation of human rights and decency is basically in support of child abuse. Our borders should be guarded, and we have a right to control immigration, but basically torturing people for fleeing over our border from violence we helped create in the first place is beyond cruelty. I won't wave my country's flag and cheer on child abuse. We're supposed to be better than this and I guess we arent, because "Brown man bad."

[Rojava Free State]

Also. Fun fact. You can pretty easily gain citizenship in the USA.

Just join the Military. One year in you can apply for Citizenship and bam. US citizen.

Tell that to the Iraq war veterans that were deported from this country. I guess once they weren't killing for oil anymore, our government decided to send them back to honduras to die. Wouldn't be the first time the US screwed over the people it views as expendable heroes

[Big Jim P]

sause

After New Mexico State University professor Neal Rosendorf read a government report exposing dangerous overcrowding of detained migrants at the Paso del Norte International Bridge in El Paso, he headed to the port of entry to see if he could find anyone protesting conditions there. When he reached the west side of the bridge, he encountered an unmarked open gate, which he walked through in the hopes of asking Border Patrol agents whether they had seen any protesters. Continuing underneath and then past the bridge about 100 yards or so, he was stunned by what he saw—migrants who said they’d been held outdoors for weeks as temperatures rose to nearly 100 degrees.

Rosendorf described it as “a human dog pound”—one hundred to 150 men behind a chain-link fence, huddled beneath makeshift shelters made from mylar blankets and whatever other scraps they could find to shield themselves from the heat of the sun. “I was able to speak with detainees and take photos of them with their permission,” Rosendorf said in an email. “They told me they’ve been incarcerated outside for a month, that they haven’t washed or been able to change the clothes they were detained in the entire time, and that they’re being poorly fed and treated in general.”

U.S. Customs and Border Protection took eight days to respond to Texas Monthly’s questions about Rosendorf’s discovery. In a statement this week, a CBP official acknowledged that the agency was detaining migrants outdoors for extended periods.

“During the current crisis, U.S. Border Patrol has had to take extraordinary measures to ensure the safety of our agents and those in our custody. As such, and to avoid severe overcrowding of USBP temporary holding facilities, every available space which provides both freedom of movement, safety, and security for those in our custody are used as necessary,” the official said. “Throughout the intake, processing, and holding of those in our custody, some individuals are being held in an area near the [Paso del Norte)] Bridge … Some of those locations are partially outdoors while still providing relief from sun, wind, and inclement weather.”

The official said CBP tries to make bathing available to detainees. “However, shower facility use is prioritized for children and vulnerable populations. Clothing is changed or provided as necessary and as available.”

Rosendorf said he was able to spend almost fifteen minutes talking to the detained migrants until Border Patrol and CBP officials discovered him and ordered him to leave. The CBP official acknowledged that “staffing shortfalls and conflicts” allowed the government professor to wander through what is supposed to be a secure area. “Unfortunately, this was a rare instance where there was a breakdown in communication and area coverage/relief was not as seamless as it should have been. Local leadership is addressing this issue,” the official said.

CBP previously detained people under the bridge in March and early April but moved the detainees to enclosed conditions after a public outcry over reports of children and pregnant women sleeping on gravel and being bombarded with pigeon droppings. At the time, CBP officials said they were using an area on the east side of the port of entry as a processing center for migrants, preparing them for transfer to other facilities or release. Officials didn’t respond to questions about when they resumed detaining rather than processing people outdoors.

Both Rosendorf and Representative Veronica Escobar, D-El Paso, said they were told by detainees that some people have been held more than a month outdoors. They said they saw only single adults held outside at the bridge. Escobar said she was told most were Cuban men. The report by the Department of Homeland Security Office of Inspector General that triggered Rosendorf’s trip to the bridge was based on an unannounced inspection on May 7 and 8, a little over three weeks before he saw people detained outside.

The report didn’t mention people detained outside. “When we observed conditions and reviewed custody records at the CBP facility at the Paso del Norte Bridge, we did not see evidence at the time of our visit that people were held outside for excessive time periods,” inspector general spokesman Arlen Morales said. “We will be conducting additional unannounced inspections and will continue to report on our observations.”

CBP policies state that people shouldn’t be held for more than three days at its facilities, which generally are small cells designed to keep people for just a few hours while they are processed. But DHS has said its detention arm, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, is at its maximum capacity of about 52,000 because of the ongoing surge of migrants at the border. As a result, CBP is holding more than 30,000 people in its facilities, according to DHS.

Escobar said ICE could alleviate what the inspector general called “dangerous holding conditions” at the Paso del Norte Bridge by releasing more detainees. That would allow CBP to move migrants from the bridge to ICE’s long-term detention facilities so they could begin the asylum process. “I know for a fact that some ICE beds are taken up by people who should be paroled, should be connected to their sponsor, people who are not a threat to America or society, people who are still waiting for the final adjudication on their asylum requests,” she said.

CBP hasn’t said how many people are being held outdoors at the bridge, but Escobar said she saw “at least a couple hundred” when she visited the area on Friday. She said the conditions are straining migrants and border agents.

El Paso’s forecast calls for high temperatures in the upper 90s to low 100s for the next several weeks. In recent days, the makeshift shelters of the people held outdoors have become increasingly visible to pedestrians crossing into the United States on the bridge above. Escobar fears that disaster looms. “As the weather warms up, I am afraid more people will die,” she said. “It’s impossible to control dehydration when you have people in these large groups sitting outside—even when they’re under a shady area.”

This is just horrible.

In such a horrible environment people will die. People only accused of a crime that has not yet been proven.

Emergency shelters with air conditioning is what these people need.

It's absolutely inhumane to treat anyone like this.

What say you NSG?

Illegal aliens: do it the right way. Can't come here legally? Stay out.

American leftist politicians: Quit supporting the violation of the above.

See. Problem solved.

[Paddy O Fernature]

sause



This is just horrible.

In such a horrible environment people will die. People only accused of a crime that has not yet been proven.

Emergency shelters with air conditioning is what these people need.

It's absolutely inhumane to treat anyone like this.

What say you NSG?

Illegal aliens: do it the right way. Can't come here legally? Stay out.

American leftist politicians: Quit supporting the violation of the above.

See. Problem solved.

Jim 2020.

Also. Fun fact. You can pretty easily gain citizenship in the USA.

Just join the Military. One year in you can apply for Citizenship and bam. US citizen.

Tell that to the Iraq war veterans that were deported from this country. I guess once they weren't killing for oil anymore, our government decided to send them back to honduras to die. Wouldn't be the first time the US screwed over the people it views as expendable heroes

Killing for oil... and here I though people were smart enough to have let that stupid ass fucking meme die already. Guess I was wrong.

[Saiwania]

Apparently the president is now arguing that the kids in detention don't need toilets, teeth brushes or soap. Recent investigations of facilities also revealed hordes of sick children who were receiving little, if any medical treatment. At this point anyone who still doesn't view these prisons as a violation of human rights and decency is basically in support of child abuse.

They don't need those things, they can choose to go back to wherever they came from if they're feeling deprived here. Our own homeless don't get nice things. Why should the US have any obligation to support these people when doing so arguably incentizes even more of them to make the trip if word gets back that conditions are nice in the US?

[Paddy O Fernature]

Apparently the president is now arguing that the kids in detention don't need toilets, teeth brushes or soap. Recent investigations of facilities also revealed hordes of sick children who were receiving little, if any medical treatment. At this point anyone who still doesn't view these prisons as a violation of human rights and decency is basically in support of child abuse.

They don't need those things, they can choose to go back to wherever they came from if they're feeling deprived here. Our own homeless don't get nice things. Why should the US have any obligation to support these people when doing so arguably incentizes even more of them to make the trip if word gets back that conditions are nice in the US?

See, I view it more along the lines where they shouldn't be in detention long enough before being deported back home to need such things. Granted, I have not seen the actual source where the President supposedly made the above statements, but I would imagine that it's not an illogical stretch to imagine that in context, that may very well have been what he meant when he spoke.

[Novus America]

Also. Fun fact. You can pretty easily gain citizenship in the USA.

Just join the Military. One year in you can apply for Citizenship and bam. US citizen.

Tell that to the Iraq war veterans that were deported from this country. I guess once they weren't killing for oil anymore, our government decided to send them back to honduras to die. Wouldn't be the first time the US screwed over the people it views as expendable heroes

You are eligible for citizenship after severing honorably for enough time.
But if you for some reason decide not to get it, then commit a serious crime, you may be deported but that is on you for well choosing not to complete the citizenship process and then commit a serious crime...

And also it is not like going back to Honduras is instant death either. The vast majority of people in Honduras do not get killed, despite the high crime in parts of it.

So “send them back to Honduras to die” is hyperbole.
It is not like all Hondurans are in death camps or whatever.

[The third pirate republic]

We simply dont have the resources to keep this large number
The solution is more funding to border agencies

[Saiwania]

If the US is willing to let its homeless population starve to death to a large extent (which is certainly true where I live) then I'd contend that a good question could be raised as to why the illegal immigrants should be given any extra supports if the homeless citizens aren't, which arguably deserve it more?

[Paddy O Fernature]

We simply dont have the resources to keep this large number
The solution is more funding to border agencies

Yes, which is why we shouldn't be keeping them for as long as we are in some cases.

Best solution for everyone involved is rapid transportation back to their home country, regardless if the home nation wants them to be returned or not.

[Vassenor]

We simply dont have the resources to keep this large number
The solution is more funding to border agencies

Or actually release individuals to their sponsors.

[Paddy O Fernature]

We simply dont have the resources to keep this large number
The solution is more funding to border agencies

Or actually release individuals to their sponsors.

I don't think the Democratic party would like truck loads of illegals being dumped on their front lawn Vass.

[Vassenor]

Or actually release individuals to their sponsors.

I don't think the Democratic party would like truck loads of illegals being dumped on their front lawn Vass.

Oh yes, the myth that the DNC is importing people for vague political reasons.

Everybody drink.

[Telconi]

I don't think the Democratic party would like truck loads of illegals being dumped on their front lawn Vass.

Oh yes, the myth that the DNC is importing people for vague political reasons.

Everybody drink.

They are the ones supporting increased immigration, and as a political party, their actions are for political reasons.

But of course it behooves your agenda to call it a "myth" and make a stale joke about drinking.

[Nova Cyberia]

We simply dont have the resources to keep this large number
The solution is more funding to border agencies

Or actually release individuals to their sponsors.

Or they could just stop endlessly coming to the border.

[Parcia]

Kinda funny people forget that Crossing the Boarder illegally is a Crime, one that you don't have to be a US citizen to be prosecuted for.


Don't get me wrong, these conditions are horrible, and I agree they should be treated better yet at the same time I hold little sympathy for people who commit a crime before they even enter the nation fully.


My Parent's and Grand Parents came here from Cuba legally.

[Nova Cyberia]

I don't think the Democratic party would like truck loads of illegals being dumped on their front lawn Vass.

Oh yes, the myth that the DNC is importing people for vague political reasons.

Everybody drink.

Voting for Democrats is the job Americans won't do.

[Parcia]

Oh yes, the myth that the DNC is importing people for vague political reasons.

Everybody drink.

Voting for Democrats is the job Americans won't do.

You know, i hear that a lot and I have yet to really ever find actual proof about it. It Sounds like something that the DNC could do, given its recent past actions, yet at the same time it sounds like some Infowars type shit.

[Vassenor]

Oh yes, the myth that the DNC is importing people for vague political reasons.

Everybody drink.

Voting for Democrats is the job Americans won't do.

Which is why more people voted for Clinton than Trump.

Or why the GOP got demolished at the Midterms.