buy chinese ?

[Chessmistress]

A cohesive, Western protectionist agenda is much more important than our minor decisions as consumers: Propping up local manufacturing, expanding health and safety regulations, and introducing tariffs across the line; taking steps away from China and to proper, global economics. While it's economical, the consumers will almost always make the pragmatic choice and buy Chinese goods. There's nothing we can do about that. Personally I avoid purchasing Chinese goods without going out of my way to search every nook and cranny for an alternative. Especially in the case of expensive appliances. Shooting myself in the foot isn't worth it when the European ship is currently sailing to a Chinese port regardless of my personal choices.

This.
International economy it's not up to the individual free choice of the consumers: either there's a problem and then the government have to step in, or there isn't a problem.
If the government decide to put tariffs then I'm okay with it, and I'll have to make my choices on the basis of the new prices. As long as the government doesn't act then I'm going to buy the best price/quality.
Not always Chinese price/quality is the best: in example if you want to buy a microwave oven or a wristwatch for a teen you have to go for some cheap but very good Made in Germany brands and Casio respectively.

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It depends. Right now I'm typing these words on a Lenovo, a Chinese laptop, because Lenovo is just a lot better than Dell, HP, and the others. Lenovo's are tanks. The Lenovo I had in college functioned well for nearly a decade. My wife had a Huawei until recently (she had to replace it because the screen broke) and for the price, that was a damn good phone. My Samsung was much more expensive than her Huawei and the only thing that my Samsung was significantly better at was taking high quality pictures.

Sometimes I prefer to support local businesses. I could order coils for my e-cig from China for a fraction of the price they cost at the local vape shop but I've heard sketchy things about Chinese coils and I want to support small business vaping. It's different than having a Lenovo because I'm not inhaling my laptop.

[Europa Undivided]

It’s not like anyone has a choice. 90% of the world’s rare earth metals come from China, which are essential for electronics.

So, even if you are buying Dell and Apple, you’re still using Chinese made hardware. If that’s the case, I would rather go for the cheaper option. Never mind that China’s government is repressive (oh yeah, when was it not repressive? Not even once in its entire history.).

[Chessmistress]

It depends. Right now I'm typing these words on a Lenovo, a Chinese laptop, because Lenovo is just a lot better than Dell, HP, and the others. Lenovo's are tanks. The Lenovo I had in college functioned well for nearly a decade. My wife had a Huawei until recently (she had to replace it because the screen broke) and for the price, that was a damn good phone. My Samsung was much more expensive than her Huawei and the only thing that my Samsung was significantly better at was taking high quality pictures.

Sometimes I prefer to support local businesses. I could order coils for my e-cig from China for a fraction of the price they cost at the local vape shop but I've heard sketchy things about Chinese coils and I want to support small business vaping. It's different than having a Lenovo because I'm not inhaling my laptop.

This, too.
Also Samsung is Korean, not American as OP intended.
In my opinion buying Korean make no sense because the quality is close to Chinese, especially on cheaper Korean products, while the price of "cheaper" Korean products is higher (or even much higher) than Chinese.

[Ethel mermania]

It depends. Right now I'm typing these words on a Lenovo, a Chinese laptop, because Lenovo is just a lot better than Dell, HP, and the others. Lenovo's are tanks. The Lenovo I had in college functioned well for nearly a decade. My wife had a Huawei until recently (she had to replace it because the screen broke) and for the price, that was a damn good phone. My Samsung was much more expensive than her Huawei and the only thing that my Samsung was significantly better at was taking high quality pictures.

Sometimes I prefer to support local businesses. I could order coils for my e-cig from China for a fraction of the price they cost at the local vape shop but I've heard sketchy things about Chinese coils and I want to support small business vaping. It's different than having a Lenovo because I'm not inhaling my laptop.

This, too.
Also Samsung is Korean, not American as OP intended.
In my opinion buying Korean make no sense because the quality is close to Chinese, especially on cheaper Korean products, while the price of "cheaper" Korean products is higher (or even much higher) than Chinese.

Where did I ever say Samsung was american?

As an fyi, Lenovo builds back doors into their PC's, to make it easier to load spyware into.

[Chessmistress]

This, too.
Also Samsung is Korean, not American as OP intended.
In my opinion buying Korean make no sense because the quality is close to Chinese, especially on cheaper Korean products, while the price of "cheaper" Korean products is higher (or even much higher) than Chinese.

Where did I ever say Samsung was american?

You didn't, indeed I edited the message while you were quoting, to make clearer what I meant, but still the meaning seems lost in translation.

I meant: "OP was referring to American products (and for those who live in the EU like me, to EU products) so Samsung is not a real alternative to Chinese".

Apart from the overblown (for normal citizens) threat of Chineses spying your communications, it's beyond me how a person could buy a Samsung mobile phone rather than a Xiaomi, since the latter is not just only relevantly less expensive but also slightly better. While Huawei is slightly inferior to Samsung but even less expensive than Xiaomi.
IMHO the rational choice according your budget should be: Huawei or Xiaomi or Apple.

[Ethel mermania]

Where did I ever say Samsung was american?

You didn't, indeed I edited the message while you were quoting, to make clearer what I meant, but still the meaning seems lost in translation.

I meant: "OP was referring to American products (and for those who live in the EU like me, to EU products) so Samsung is not a real alternative to Chinese".

Apart from the overblown (for normal citizens) threat of Chineses spying your communications, it's beyond me how a person could buy a Samsung mobile phone rather than a Xiaomi, since the latter is not just only relevantly less expensive but also slightly better. While Huawei is slightly inferior to Samsung but even less expensive than Xiaomi.
IMHO the rational choice according your budget should be: Huawei or Xiaomi or Apple.

Thanks I got sensitive

I was referring to chinese products vs. Any. So Samsung would be an alternative. (Edit: I see that you said based on price it wouldnt be) What I was wondering was, did people think it was viable to boycott the commerical products of a regime to make a political point?

In The poll choices I did put a "buy own nation" choice
based on that in america, "Buy American" is a contract requirement for many government contracts.

[-Astoria]

Meanwhile, over here, it's pretty much impossible to actually avoid non-Chinese products, as they seem to take about 99% of the entire market.

If you do want to go for them, be prepared to constantly haemorrhage your money like a haemopheliac piggy bank, because it costs a heck of a fortune.

In short, there's pretty much no alternative.

Then again, seeing as how many construction projects here are undertaken by Chinese concerns, but that's for a different topic, I suppose...

[Europa Undivided]

Meanwhile, over here, it's pretty much impossible to actually avoid non-Chinese products, as they seem to take about 99% of the entire market.

If you do want to go for them, be prepared to constantly haemorrhage your money like a haemopheliac piggy bank, because it costs a heck of a fortune.

In short, there's pretty much no alternative.

Then again, seeing as how many construction projects here are undertaken by Chinese concerns, but that's for a different topic, I suppose...

And literally every electronics company has to use rare earth metals from China.

[Chessmistress]

Meanwhile, over here, it's pretty much impossible to actually avoid non-Chinese products, as they seem to take about 99% of the entire market.

If you do want to go for them, be prepared to constantly haemorrhage your money like a haemopheliac piggy bank, because it costs a heck of a fortune.

In short, there's pretty much no alternative.

Then again, seeing as how many construction projects here are undertaken by Chinese concerns, but that's for a different topic, I suppose...

I don't know where you live, but that's true for a lot of African countries in example: it's 99% Chinese products, then there is a 0.5% European and a 0.5% Japanese, both costing much more than the Chinese equivalent.

[Heloin]

Meanwhile, over here, it's pretty much impossible to actually avoid non-Chinese products, as they seem to take about 99% of the entire market.

If you do want to go for them, be prepared to constantly haemorrhage your money like a haemopheliac piggy bank, because it costs a heck of a fortune.

In short, there's pretty much no alternative.

Then again, seeing as how many construction projects here are undertaken by Chinese concerns, but that's for a different topic, I suppose...

Be like Ethiopia. Burn done Chinese factories.

[Spain2007]

im just waiting for some of you to shoot up a chinese restaraunt! you guys are the most exstreme morons iv seen outside /pol

[Heloin]

Meanwhile, over here, it's pretty much impossible to actually avoid non-Chinese products, as they seem to take about 99% of the entire market.

If you do want to go for them, be prepared to constantly haemorrhage your money like a haemopheliac piggy bank, because it costs a heck of a fortune.

In short, there's pretty much no alternative.

Then again, seeing as how many construction projects here are undertaken by Chinese concerns, but that's for a different topic, I suppose...

I don't know where you live, but that's true for a lot of African countries in example: it's 99% Chinese products, then there is a 0.5% European and a 0.5% Japanese, both costing much more than the Chinese equivalent.

What?

[-Astoria]

I don't know where you live, but that's true for a lot of African countries in example: it's 99% Chinese products, then there is a 0.5% European and a 0.5% Japanese, both costing much more than the Chinese equivalent.

Or in our case, replacing the Japanese with American goods.

And to be more exact, I live here.

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Be like Ethiopia. Burn done Chinese factories.

Sadly, no can do, mate.

[Chessmistress]

I don't know where you live, but that's true for a lot of African countries in example: it's 99% Chinese products, then there is a 0.5% European and a 0.5% Japanese, both costing much more than the Chinese equivalent.

What?

In my direct experience: Mozambique, Tanzania and Madagascar. I didn't take in consideration local products, though, but they're very limited due it's mostly artisanal not industrial production.

[Heloin]

Be like Ethiopia. Burn done Chinese factories.

Sadly, no can do, mate.

Shame.

Uncle knew a group of coal workers in Kabwe who cased the Chinese company heads out of town with machetes.

[Heloin]

What?

In my direct experience: Mozambique, Tanzania and Madagascar. I didn't take in consideration local products, though, but they're very limited due it's mostly artisanal not industrial production.

From my experience you mostly see EU and South African goods in Mozambique nowadays. Least the goods anyone wants to buy since the Chinese ones are often pretty shit. Can't speak for Tanzania or Madagascar.

[Ethel mermania]

What?

In my direct experience: Mozambique, Tanzania and Madagascar. I didn't take in consideration local products, though, but they're very limited due it's mostly artisanal not industrial production.

You are right about that,

What I was trying to do with the thread was ask about an individual's value system, and where they willing to put their money where their mouth is, so to speak

[Chessmistress]

In my direct experience: Mozambique, Tanzania and Madagascar. I didn't take in consideration local products, though, but they're very limited due it's mostly artisanal not industrial production.

You are right about that,

What I was trying to do with the thread was ask about an individual's value system, and where they willing to put their money where their mouth is, so to speak

That exclude everyone opposing Trump's tariffs against China, then.

Personally I think that even a broken clock is right two times per day, and that's the case with Trump's tariffs.

[Chessmistress]

In my direct experience: Mozambique, Tanzania and Madagascar. I didn't take in consideration local products, though, but they're very limited due it's mostly artisanal not industrial production.

From my experience you mostly see EU and South African goods in Mozambique nowadays. Least the goods anyone wants to buy since the Chinese ones are often pretty shit. Can't speak for Tanzania or Madagascar.

I'm talking about Maputo, the capital of Mozambique, not Ponta do Ouro: in Ponta do Ouro the market is dominated by goods they sell to tourists, the South African Rand, the Euro and the American Dollar are all more common than local currency, it's a special situation: it's basically about selling South African goods to Europeans and Americans, and European goods to South Africans and Americans.

[Heloin]

From my experience you mostly see EU and South African goods in Mozambique nowadays. Least the goods anyone wants to buy since the Chinese ones are often pretty shit. Can't speak for Tanzania or Madagascar.

I'm talking about Maputo, the capital of Mozambique, not Ponta do Ouro: in Ponta do Ouro the market is dominated by goods they sell to tourists, the South African Rand, the Euro and the American Dollar are all more common than local currency, it's a special situation: it's basically about selling South African goods to Europeans and Americans, and European goods to South Africans and Americans.

I'm talking about Chimoio and Tete. Tourists don't go into the interior.

[The Two Jerseys]

I usually don't even look at where a product is manufactured unless it's a big purchase like a computer or a car, but I wouldn't mind paying a little more for American-made products since it provides jobs for American workers and I don't have to worry about shit like lead paint.

[Farnhamia]

Sorry, guys, but this one died last summer.