Iran vs the US Thread

[North German Realm]

He is actually not though. He is trying to apply more pressure on them to weaken them and make them give concessions.
Not start a war.

We got them to give concessions before he took office. He's just going around on it.

Barjam was seen as Zarif's "diplomatic masterpiece" simply because Iran managed to loop around every single thing it was supposed to limit them from doing while giving them concessions that was almost consistently poured into funding militias and committing acts of terrorism in the entire Middle East. I'm not sure what makes you think it was a "concession", really.

[Novus America]

He is actually not though. He is trying to apply more pressure on them to weaken them and make them give concessions.
Not start a war.

I mean, is he though?, and how would you know this again?

Because if he actually wanted a war, we would see actual preparations for war.
And I will make a bet with you. If he does start a war I will admit you are right.
But if not you must admit I am right.

[Mojave Confederation]

I mean, is he though?, and how would you know this again?

Because if he actually wanted a war, we would see actual preparations for war.
And I will make a bet with you. If he does start a war I will admit you are right.
But if not you must admit I am right.

Yes, because the public participation and transparancy for preparation of war is always the standard of conduct.

[Nakena]

Because if he actually wanted a war, we would see actual preparations for war.
And I will make a bet with you. If he does start a war I will admit you are right.
But if not you must admit I am right.

Yes, because the public participation and transparancy for preparation of war is always the standard of conduct.

Preparation for war would see larger troop movements and the likes which are difficult to conceal from the public. Trump is unlikely to wage any proper war with Iran and they know it. Like even at Syria he fired literally a few cruise missiles at empty warehouses and airfields. Those half-hearted actions caused by all means and purposes more political damage than they did any good.

[North German Realm]

Yes, because the public participation and transparancy for preparation of war is always the standard of conduct.

Preparation for war would see larger troop movements and the likes which are difficult to conceal from the public. Trump is unlikely to wage any proper war with Iran and they know it. Like even at Syria he fired literally a few cruise missiles at empty warehouses and airfields. Those half-hearted actions caused by all means and purposes more political damage than they did any good.

TBH it's not like there hasn't been some deployments to bases around Iran. It's nowhere as large as you'd expect an expeditionary force to be, but it's still there and it's been increasing gradually this last few months.

[Nakena]

Preparation for war would see larger troop movements and the likes which are difficult to conceal from the public. Trump is unlikely to wage any proper war with Iran and they know it. Like even at Syria he fired literally a few cruise missiles at empty warehouses and airfields. Those half-hearted actions caused by all means and purposes more political damage than they did any good.

TBH it's not like there hasn't been some deployments to bases around Iran. It's nowhere as large as you'd expect an expeditionary force to be, but it's still there and it's been increasing gradually this last few months.

But by far not enough for a land invasion or anything like that. From a military viewpoint the one option Trump has is decimating the iranian navy and bomb nuclear and other strategic targets. Beyond that gets blurry. And those actions alone would lead to an unpredictable iranian retiliation which undoubtly would lead to a full scale escalation inside the middle east...

[Ifreann]

Ban gulfs.

[Novus America]

Because if he actually wanted a war, we would see actual preparations for war.
And I will make a bet with you. If he does start a war I will admit you are right.
But if not you must admit I am right.

Yes, because the public participation and transparancy for preparation of war is always the standard of conduct.

It is nearly impossible to hide. Any large deployment of regular troops is easy to see.

[Novus America]

Preparation for war would see larger troop movements and the likes which are difficult to conceal from the public. Trump is unlikely to wage any proper war with Iran and they know it. Like even at Syria he fired literally a few cruise missiles at empty warehouses and airfields. Those half-hearted actions caused by all means and purposes more political damage than they did any good.

TBH it's not like there hasn't been some deployments to bases around Iran. It's nowhere as large as you'd expect an expeditionary force to be, but it's still there and it's been increasing gradually this last few months.

Sure, there has been a slight increase, which is indicative of trying to increase pressure, not plan and invasion.
Iraq on the other hand saw a massive build up of literally hundreds of thousands.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Ban gulfs.

Ban ships

[Internationalist Bastard]

Because if he actually wanted a war, we would see actual preparations for war.
And I will make a bet with you. If he does start a war I will admit you are right.
But if not you must admit I am right.

Yes, because the public participation and transparancy for preparation of war is always the standard of conduct.

War takes preparation that can’t be hidden well
That said I’m not sure Trump would listen to the military enough to actually prepare for a war he wants to start

[Ifreann]

Ban gulfs.

Ban ships

If God wanted us to travel by sea then Jesus wouldn't have been the only one who could walk on water.

[Loben The 2nd]

Ban ships

If God wanted us to travel by sea then Jesus wouldn't have been the only one who could walk on water.

What was Noah’s ark but mans first all expense paid cruise to paradise?

[Fartsniffage]

If God wanted us to travel by sea then Jesus wouldn't have been the only one who could walk on water.

What was Noah’s ark but mans first all expense paid cruise to paradise?

Incest and years of vegetarianism. If that's your idea of paradise then you can keep it...

[Loben The 2nd]

What was Noah’s ark but mans first all expense paid cruise to paradise?

Incest and years of vegetarianism. If that's your idea of paradise then you can keep it...

Wew intolerance.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

We got them to give concessions before he took office. He's just going around on it.

No, under that deal we gave all the concessions. They gave us nothing.

They gave us not making nukes or continuing their nuke program for 15 years, which is better than 0 and certainly better than them actually having nukes, and they were in compliance until Trump thought it was a good idea to scrap the whole thing giving them carte blanche to start back up again.

[Gormwood]

Incest and years of vegetarianism. If that's your idea of paradise then you can keep it...

Wew intolerance.

You're fine with incest? Too much Game of Thrones.

[Gig em Aggies]

Incest and years of vegetarianism. If that's your idea of paradise then you can keep it...

Wew intolerance.

okay how does oil tankers being most likely attacked by iran turn into vegetarianism?

[Gig em Aggies]

No, under that deal we gave all the concessions. They gave us nothing.

They gave us not making nukes or continuing their nuke program for 15 years, which is better than 0 and certainly better than them actually having nukes, and they were in compliance until Trump thought it was a good idea to scrap the whole thing giving them carte blanche to start back up again.

no not really Iran is still under obligation of the deal for everyone else so subtracting the US and the deal is not magically kaput.

[Fartsniffage]

Wew intolerance.

okay how does oil tankers being most likely attacked by iran turn into vegetarianism?

The magic of NSG.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Please no war, that would be great.

Im also totally not believing the states either about this.

okay how does oil tankers being most likely attacked by iran turn into vegetarianism?

The magic of NSG.

Now let me tell you about how this is feminism's fault.

[Gig em Aggies]

Please no war, that would be great.

Im also totally not believing the states either about this.

The magic of NSG.

Now let me tell you about how this is feminism's fault.

what if its your fault because your bored and need something to do? because frankly your flag makes you look like your plotting something nefarious lets say like making unnecessary holes in things that don't need holes you know like ships for instance.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Please no war, that would be great.

Im also totally not believing the states either about this.



Now let me tell you about how this is feminism's fault.

what if its your fault because your bored and need something to do? because frankly your flag makes you look like your plotting something nefarious lets say like making unnecessary holes in things that don't need holes you know like ships for instance.

i.... reject your accusations. How dare you.

[Loben The 2nd]

Wew intolerance.

You're fine with incest? Too much Game of Thrones.

I will not rest until at least one of my decedents is a basic carbon copy of Charles II.

[Neu Leonstein]

He is actually not though. He is trying to apply more pressure on them to weaken them and make them give concessions.
Not start a war.

I'm sure that's the intention. What I worry about is what happens if there's one too many segments on "Fox and Friends" where they express their disappointment at the Iranian regime still being in power by calling Trump weak.