Iran vs the US Thread

[Fartsniffage]

https://japantoday.com/category/national/Ship-operator-says-sailors-saw-'flying-objects'-just-before-attack
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.common ... ying%3famp
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/japa ... d-n1017556
See, I WAS right. It wasn’t iran

Eye witness reports, known for their unreliability.

What other reports of the attack do we have though?

[Loben The 2nd]

And?

The fact that Bolton is an asshat and there have been plans for false flags means that this definitely is one. Totally. It's not a dumbass assumption or anything.

Dumbass assumptions is what the media does.

That and people who think the US is the worlds boogeyman.

[Loben The 2nd]

Eye witness reports, known for their unreliability.

What other reports of the attack do we have though?

Wasn’t there also FLIR footage of a boat attached to the ship?
Or was that a life boat?

[The New California Republic]

bigfoot is American around them parts its called the Yeti

Iran has Yetis?

If they did then they would have been picked up by a spy satellite long ago.

[Fartsniffage]

What other reports of the attack do we have though?

Wasn’t there also FLIR footage of a boat attached to the ship?
Or was that a life boat?

That was all from after the attack. Right now the definitive version of the attack on the Japanese ship is what the crew are saying. Until we have more the claim that what they say should be dismissed because eyewitnesses are unreliable is simply stupid.

[Loben The 2nd]

Wasn’t there also FLIR footage of a boat attached to the ship?
Or was that a life boat?

That was all from after the attack. Right now the definitive version of the attack on the Japanese ship is what the crew are saying. Until we have more the claim that what they say should be dismissed because eyewitnesses are unreliable is simply stupid.

So something...flew?

A drone? An F/A18E? The ghost of fucking takeda shingen?

[Scomagia]

Wasn’t there also FLIR footage of a boat attached to the ship?
Or was that a life boat?

That was all from after the attack. Right now the definitive version of the attack on the Japanese ship is what the crew are saying. Until we have more the claim that what they say should be dismissed because eyewitnesses are unreliable is simply stupid.

We aren't saying it should be dismissed. It shouldn't be given very much credence, though.

[Torrocca]

That was all from after the attack. Right now the definitive version of the attack on the Japanese ship is what the crew are saying. Until we have more the claim that what they say should be dismissed because eyewitnesses are unreliable is simply stupid.

So something...flew?

A drone? An F/A18E? The ghost of fucking takeda shingen?

An object (probably a missile, since those fly) flew into the ship, according to crew reports.

[Loben The 2nd]

So something...flew?

A drone? An F/A18E? The ghost of fucking takeda shingen?

An object (probably a missile, since those fly) flew into the ship, according to crew reports.

Would’ve made a far bigger whole.

[Fartsniffage]

That was all from after the attack. Right now the definitive version of the attack on the Japanese ship is what the crew are saying. Until we have more the claim that what they say should be dismissed because eyewitnesses are unreliable is simply stupid.

So something...flew?

A drone? An F/A18E? The ghost of fucking takeda shingen?

You do realise that witness statements is the start of an investigation, not the end?

[Loben The 2nd]

So something...flew?

A drone? An F/A18E? The ghost of fucking takeda shingen?

You do realise that witness statements is the start of an investigation, not the end?

Surely you jest.

[Fartsniffage]

You do realise that witness statements is the start of an investigation, not the end?

Surely you jest.

Then why did you ask me a stupid question? Were you trying to sound dumb?

[The Archipelago Territory]

https://japantoday.com/category/national/Ship-operator-says-sailors-saw-'flying-objects'-just-before-attack
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.common ... ying%3famp
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/japa ... d-n1017556
See, I WAS right. It wasn’t iran

Eye witness reports, known for their unreliability.

Versus little evidence provided by Bolton and Pompeo, who are not military officers. They’re lying to Trump, manipulating him. Look what NSA whistleblower Binney says. He says they lie to trump all the time

[Loben The 2nd]

Surely you jest.

Then why did you ask me a stupid question? Were you trying to sound dumb?

Nothing wrong with conjecture of what could possibly fly, tear a tanker ship apart?

[Loben The 2nd]

Eye witness reports, known for their unreliability.

Versus little evidence provided by Bolton and Pompeo, who are not military officers. They’re lying to Trump, manipulating him. Look what NSA whistleblower Binney says. He says they lie to trump all the time

Isn’t pompeo head of the CIA?

[The Archipelago Territory]

Pompeo, secstate who has authority over CIA, but only Navy was present.

[Torrocca]

An object (probably a missile, since those fly) flew into the ship, according to crew reports.

Would’ve made a far bigger whole.

You do realize not all missiles make big explosions, right? Some make small ones.

[Salandriagado]

An object (probably a missile, since those fly) flew into the ship, according to crew reports.

Would’ve made a far bigger whole.

Small missiles exist.

[Fartsniffage]

Would’ve made a far bigger whole.

Small missiles exist.

Small anti-ship missiles don't on the whole.

[Salandriagado]

Small missiles exist.

Small anti-ship missiles don't on the whole.

Who says it was an anti-ship missile? Terrorists are hardly renowned for only using weapons in their designed role.

[Gig em Aggies]

Would’ve made a far bigger whole.

You do realize not all missiles make big explosions, right? Some make small ones.

but in all those reports not one stated the object was spotted before the explosions nor did they state it was coming toward them so in effect the crew of the tanker could have seen debris from there own ship flying away after the explosion plus not one satellite that is trained on the middle east showed any missiles being fired nor is there a missile trail leading back to shore or to a ship. plus if you look at the photos of the tanker the hole is far to small for even the anti-ship missiles fielded by Iran.

[Torrocca]

Small missiles exist.

Small anti-ship missiles don't on the whole.

To be fair, can we be sure that whoever attacked the oil tankers had access to anti-ship missiles in the first place, assuming the crew reports are indeed accurate?

[Fartsniffage]

Small anti-ship missiles don't on the whole.

Who says it was an anti-ship missile? Terrorists are hardly renowned for only using weapons in their designed role.

You don't say?

[Loben The 2nd]

Small anti-ship missiles don't on the whole.

Who says it was an anti-ship missile? Terrorists are hardly renowned for only using weapons in their designed role.

So the terrorists somehow have a bird that can fire a AGM at a ship....

[Gig em Aggies]

Small anti-ship missiles don't on the whole.

Who says it was an anti-ship missile? Terrorists are hardly renowned for only using weapons in their designed role.

except if a terrorist group were to have committed the attacks what would be the end goal? plus they would use suicide bombers like in the case of the USS Cole in Yemen. They wouldn't use anti-ship missiles to attack four tanker ships with a max of maybe 30-40 people terrorist groups want mass death so an anti-ship missile launched at a cruise ship would do better then an oil tanker.