Iran vs the US Thread

[Sundowers]

And at this point the only evidence we have of Iranian involvement is "Trump said so".

And numerous other investigation reports from various US offices. It's currently being contested with the Tanker's owner's own investigations, but honestly, it's almost 100% Iran's fault and it's really obvious at this point.

Also Iran openly said they would do this shit and have done so for the past 40 years

[The New California Republic]

Have a look on the BBC news.

So yes, we're right back at "because Trump says so".

...Does Trump own the BBC...?

[Visionary Union]

The IRGC has blamed Israel -while trying to remove their own mine from the crime-scene no less- so there's that, I guess.

And at this point the only evidence we have of Iranian involvement is "Trump said so".

As I wrote, Iran has a history of committing such acts. I don't really care for Trump or whatever bs he spews out, but as we all know, even a broken clock is correct twice a day.

[Vassenor]

So yes, we're right back at "because Trump says so".

...Does Trump own the BBC...?

"The US claims the video shows..." sounds a whole lot like "because Trump said so".

[Sundowers]

Have a look on the BBC news.

So yes, we're right back at "because Trump says so".

What?

[Sundowers]

...Does Trump own the BBC...?

"The US claims the video shows..." sounds a whole lot like "because Trump said so".

Yeah but the only people who use mines in the Straits are the iranians.

[North German Realm]

And numerous other investigation reports from various US offices. It's currently being contested with the Tanker's owner's own investigations, but honestly, it's almost 100% Iran's fault and it's really obvious at this point.

Also Iran openly said they would do this shit and have done so for the past 40 years

"Why would a terrorist organization that's been saying, non-stop ever since its creation in 1980s, that it would do this and that's had done this before do this? It just doesn't add up, It has to be another USS Maine!"

[Vassenor]

So yes, we're right back at "because Trump says so".

What?

So what in the video definitively proves that Iran was behind the bombings?

[The New California Republic]

...Does Trump own the BBC...?

"The US claims the video shows..." sounds a whole lot like "because Trump said so".

I'm sure that more videos will emerge shortly, but I am more inclined to believe a claim if there is a video of it, sure.

[Sundowers]

What?

So what in the video definitively proves that Iran was behind the bombings?

Becuase on April 22nd Iran said they would do these things, only iran uses mines, and the boat is is a boghammer used by the IRGC.

[Vassenor]

"The US claims the video shows..." sounds a whole lot like "because Trump said so".

I'm sure that more videos will emerge shortly, but I am more inclined to believe a claim if there is a video of it, sure.

So what in the video definitively proves that Iran planted the bombs?

[The New California Republic]

I'm sure that more videos will emerge shortly, but I am more inclined to believe a claim if there is a video of it, sure.

So what in the video definitively proves that Iran planted the bombs?

Who are the other suspects?

[Visionary Union]

Also Iran openly said they would do this shit and have done so for the past 40 years

"Why would a terrorist organization that's been saying, non-stop ever since its creation in 1980s, that it would do this and that's had done this before do this? It just doesn't add up, It has to be another USS Maine!"

Some people will ignore reality because it contradicts their views.

[Vassenor]

So what in the video definitively proves that Iran was behind the bombings?

Becuase on April 22nd Iran said they would do these things, only iran uses mines, and the boat is is a boghammer used by the IRGC.

I didn't know Iran invented the limpet mine.

[North German Realm]

So what in the video definitively proves that Iran planted the bombs?

Who are the other suspects?

The US and Israel, for some reason, because the modern American is somehow more likely to believe the American government to do shit and blame others for it than it is to believe an insane martyr-obsessed regime with a policy of exporting eternal revolution that calls for genocide once every Friday (literally) is.

[Vassenor]

So what in the video definitively proves that Iran planted the bombs?

Who are the other suspects?

"It has to be X because you can't name anyone else it could be" isn't sound logic.

[Vassenor]

Who are the other suspects?

The US and Israel, for some reason, because the modern American is somehow more likely to believe the American government to do shit and blame others for it than it is to believe an insane martyr-obsessed regime with a policy of eternal revolution that calls for genocide once every Friday (literally) is.

#gulfoftonkin

[The New California Republic]

Who are the other suspects?

"It has to be X because you can't name anyone else it could be" isn't sound logic.

I think you misunderstand. It's a genuine question.

[Sundowers]

I'm sure that more videos will emerge shortly, but I am more inclined to believe a claim if there is a video of it, sure.

So what in the video definitively proves that Iran planted the bombs?

They were magnetic sea mines, and if you mean to tell me that you seriosuly think the US bought a boghammer, mined the straits of Hormuz, then used that boghammer to renove unexploded mines off these ships all on an efoort to make Iran look bad I dont know what to say to you.

[Sundowers]

The US and Israel, for some reason, because the modern American is somehow more likely to believe the American government to do shit and blame others for it than it is to believe an insane martyr-obsessed regime with a policy of eternal revolution that calls for genocide once every Friday (literally) is.

#gulfoftonkin

I swear, one more gulf of tonlin reference and I am quitting the game, this is nothing like the Gulf Of Tonkin and the fact people think it is ks just sad

[North German Realm]

The US and Israel, for some reason, because the modern American is somehow more likely to believe the American government to do shit and blame others for it than it is to believe an insane martyr-obsessed regime with a policy of eternal revolution that calls for genocide once every Friday (literally) is.

#gulfoftonkin

I maintain that the reasoning for American intervention in the affairs of Vietnam was a sound one, and no matter what context they entered it, the primary argument ("If we don't contain the communists here, they'll win in Vietnam and then take over all of East Asia") was a sound argument, and it happened exactly as feared the moment The US left Vietnam.

[Vassenor]

#gulfoftonkin

I swear, one more gulf of tonlin reference and I am quitting the game, this is nothing like the Gulf Of Tonkin and the fact people think it is ks just sad

In what way is it different?

[Visionary Union]

Who are the other suspects?

"It has to be X because you can't name anyone else it could be" isn't sound logic.

Let's ignore history and reality, yeah? Iran was totally not threatening to do those things or even done them in the past. Nooo, it HAS to be a false flag.

[Sundowers]

I swear, one more gulf of tonlin reference and I am quitting the game, this is nothing like the Gulf Of Tonkin and the fact people think it is ks just sad

In what way is it different?

First off the US Navy was not involved this time, secondly this was not even against US shipping. Another thing, at the time of Tonkin incident we where aiding the South Vietnamese, last time I checked we have not been sending troops into Iran to assist a militant factions

[Sundowers]

"It has to be X because you can't name anyone else it could be" isn't sound logic.

Let's ignore history and reality, yeah? Iran was totally not threatening to do those things or even done them in the past. Nooo, it HAS to be a false flag.

Its not like they said they would do this exact thing a month or two ago