Iran vs the US Thread

[Nakena]

There is a NOTAM regarding avoiding Iranian airspace in effect, so possibly yes.

Ah

Reeeeeeeal inconvenient for one of my friends who was going to vacation in Thailand for summer

He can always take a more northern route.

[Aureumterra]

Ah

Reeeeeeeal inconvenient for one of my friends who was going to vacation in Thailand for summer

He can always take a more northern route.

Costs a couple thousand króna to reschedule

oof

[Great Algerstonia]

Well, thank god Trump called off those military strikes, otherwise we would’ve been looking at the next world war.

[Bear Stearns]

Well, thank god Trump called off those military strikes, otherwise we would’ve been looking at the next world war.

tfw Tucker Carlson would make a much better foreign policy advisor than Bush-era neocon warmonger John Bolton.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

I know there isn't but after NSG cryed "X event will start a war" 8000 times before and no war started, it gets hard to beleave that :no really this time Nsg is right and there will be a war."

This is more getting like Tanker War from the late 1980s than full out conflict.

It probably won't even be like that.

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Just to clarify, I still think war with Iran would be shit. It would turn out to be Iraq war 2.0 and make an ISIS 3.0.

Also war is shit, peace is better.

[Nova Cyberia]

No he isn't. In fact he prevented a war by minutes.

Prevented himself from starting a war you mean?

It's actually quite bizarre to me the way this is being played up as some dramatic technothriller moment when it was just Trump, alone, waffling about what would get him the most applause at his next rally.

"waffling out"

You'd have preferred we start airstrikes against Iran?

[Novus America]

Well, thank god Trump called off those military strikes, otherwise we would’ve been looking at the next world war.

Except not at all.
A limited strike would probably not cause a full blown war, and it would definitely not be a world war. I still do not want a full war, but it would not be a world war.

[The Lone Alliance]

Deng Xiaoping played it pretty smart. His policy was to "hide China's strength until the time was right". That decision has proven very wise. China was not ready in the 80s and 90s to confront the United States, but now it almost is; which is why we see current events unfolding the way they are.

Indeed he was. Too bad we were too stupid. We should have seen right through his game.
I did. I was saying this back in 2000.
How can I, as stupid as I might be be smarter than 4 presidents? That is just fucking sad.

At least Xi has been stupid enough to show his hand before the PRC is fully ready, but it still might be too late.

Because the businesses that were once loyal to the US switched to China around that time period.

They had it all planned out, China would become the new Manufacturing Mecca for the global society while the US would become white collar land.

Since everyone would be dependent on China's goods and China would be dependent on the world's consumers we'd have "World Peace".

Naive Utopianism once again fucks the world.

[Surkiea]

Trump in undermining American credibility at this point, he shouldn't have called off that strike and should be sending ground troops into Tehran by now, but once again he's acting weak with our foreign policy and has done nothing to destroy America's enemies.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Indeed he was. Too bad we were too stupid. We should have seen right through his game.
I did. I was saying this back in 2000.
How can I, as stupid as I might be be smarter than 4 presidents? That is just fucking sad.

At least Xi has been stupid enough to show his hand before the PRC is fully ready, but it still might be too late.

Because the businesses that were once loyal to the US switched to China around that time period.

They had it all planned out, China would become the new Manufacturing Mecca for the global society while the US would become white collar land.

Since everyone would be dependent on China's goods and China would be dependent on the world's consumers we'd have "World Peace".

Naive Utopianism once again fucks the world.

How is this relevant to the topic?

[Holy Roman Empires2]

Id like to say, thank god Presdint Trump reversed his decision on attacking Iran. If war had happened though, it would have crashed the world economy.

[Liriena]

President Xi, pls drop the nukes. The imperialist dogs are at it again

[The Lone Alliance]

How is this relevant to the topic?

It has to do with why the United States is declining as an Empire to the point that Iran feels safe in doing the actions it does.

[Novus America]

President Xi, pls drop the nukes. The imperialist dogs are at it again

Of course you are joking, but more seriously the PRC has a good relationship with the Saudis, UAE and Israel, and those ties are much more important than Iran.

[Lockdownn]

Trump in undermining American credibility at this point, he shouldn't have called off that strike and should be sending ground troops into Tehran by now, but once again he's acting weak with our foreign policy and has done nothing to destroy America's enemies.

Sure, once you go ahead and march in there yourself too. Does no one ever consider the ramifications that war brings to our country every damn time some war-nut fucks in Washington decide "oh, hey let's go fuck up another country cause we big bad and good police of the world."

[Torrocca]

This is unironically the best take on Trump nearly bringing another war to the world.

[Aureumterra]

This is unironically the best take on Trump nearly bringing another war to the world.

You’d rather go to war would you?

[No State Here]

This is unironically the best take on Trump nearly bringing another war to the world.

Trump never said outright that he saved the world from war, but his worshippers might’ve interpreted that

[Torrocca]

This is unironically the best take on Trump nearly bringing another war to the world.

You’d rather go to war would you?

... Holy fucking shit this is a fucking stupid interpretation of my beliefs.

I'd rather that there wasn't somebody with the power to order a war-starting drone strike only to end it two hours later with only minutes to spare before it actually happened.

[Lockdownn]

You’d rather go to war would you?

... Holy fucking shit this is a fucking stupid interpretation of my beliefs.

I'd rather that there wasn't somebody with the power to order a war-starting drone strike only to end it two hours later with only minutes to spare before it actually happened.

Do you have proof it was minutes before initiation?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

How is this relevant to the topic?

It has to do with why the United States is declining as an Empire to the point that Iran feels safe in doing the actions it does.

Or: Iran is doing this beacuse Trump in his infinite wisdom restarted the game of chicken Iran and The US where playing when he scraped that deal.

[Torrocca]

... Holy fucking shit this is a fucking stupid interpretation of my beliefs.

I'd rather that there wasn't somebody with the power to order a war-starting drone strike only to end it two hours later with only minutes to spare before it actually happened.

Do you have proof it was minutes before initiation?

Direct proof, in fact.

[Galloism]

Do you have proof it was minutes before initiation?

Direct proof, in fact.

Do you have a credible source?

[Torrocca]

Direct proof, in fact.

Do you have a credible source?

Nice.

But, as far as I'm aware, I've got nothing except word of mouth from the guy himself at the moment that the strike was mere minutes from occurring.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Do you have a credible source?

Nice.

But, as far as I'm aware, I've got nothing except word of mouth from the guy himself at the moment that the strike was mere minutes from occurring.

Cocked and loaded too.