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by Emazia » Mon May 20, 2019 11:26 am
by Thermodolia » Mon May 20, 2019 11:26 am
Emazia wrote:Upper Saust Latiegebestica wrote:The 2 greatest US allies in the Middle East.
1. Israel, the only true democracy in the Middle East
2. Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is a different Islam than Iran (I forgot whether it was sunni or shia and don't want to offend the muslims almos certain to weigh in) And we used to get a lot of our oil from them until Trump came along.
Saudi Arabia is Sunni and Iran is Shia'a. Also, if you call the mass genocide and alienation of Palestinians democratic, I better call the mods for genocide denial. Although I won't because that's just the easy way out.
by Hammer Britannia » Mon May 20, 2019 11:26 am
by Emazia » Mon May 20, 2019 11:26 am
Thermodolia wrote:Emazia wrote:Saudi Arabia is Sunni and Iran is Shia'a. Also, if you call the mass genocide and alienation of Palestinians democratic, I better call the mods for genocide denial. Although I won't because that's just the easy way out.
I wouldn’t call what the Israelis are doing genocide but it’s definitely ethnic cleansing.
by Heloin » Mon May 20, 2019 11:27 am
Thermodolia wrote:Upper Saust Latiegebestica wrote:The 2 greatest US allies in the Middle East.
1. Israel, the only true democracy in the Middle East
Israel sells our tech to China and Russia. And attacks our troops2. Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is a different Islam than Iran (I forgot whether it was sunni or shia and don't want to offend the muslims almos certain to weigh in) And we used to get a lot of our oil from them until Trump came along.
Trump had nothing to do with that. We became majority oil independent under Obama.
Also the KSA is a shit ally as they fund terrorist groups that we are trying to fight.
Some allies we got here
by Upper Saust Latiegebestica » Mon May 20, 2019 11:28 am
Emazia wrote:Upper Saust Latiegebestica wrote:let me get something straight.
1. thank you for informing me which islam Saudi follows
2. What evidence do you have to support the "Israeli Genocide of Palestinians?"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ethni ... _Palestine
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20180 ... ah-status/
https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2018/c ... /palestine
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/i ... e-genocide
One is Wikipedia, two are biased, one is the Human Rights Watch. I can get you more if needed.
by Thermodolia » Mon May 20, 2019 11:28 am
North German Realm wrote:Thermodolia wrote:AQ wasn’t funded by the Iranians but the KSA.
I personally very much doubt the meme with "Every fundie in the Middle East and North Africa is a a KSA or Israeli stooge", to be honest. I don't doubt that the KSA was the ideological benefactor for it, but funding? Nah. Iran has a lot more to win from destabilizing the region than KSA ever would, seeing as KSA's money is what the US primarily uses for its missions to "stabilize" the region every so often.
by Heloin » Mon May 20, 2019 11:28 am
Emazia wrote:>TFW you write a mini-newspaper article on NS and everyone just ignores it.
by Thermodolia » Mon May 20, 2019 11:29 am
by Emazia » Mon May 20, 2019 11:30 am
Scomagia wrote:Cekoviu wrote:It's insane for us to go to war with Iran when we're actively aiding Saudi Arabia in their rampages across the Middle East and promotion of Islamic extremism abroad. But we gotta get that oil, amirite?
Are the Saudis currently threatening our military and civilian assets? No? Then sit right back down, son.
by Upper Saust Latiegebestica » Mon May 20, 2019 11:31 am
Emazia wrote:Scomagia wrote:Are the Saudis currently threatening our military and civilian assets? No? Then sit right back down, son.
SIGGGHSSSS
Americentrism - the perfect way of arguing! It's not whether it's right or whether it's wrong, but rather about the interests of the United States of America. If we were in the White House in a cabinet meeting, then the interests of the USA would matter. But not here. What about all the NATO countries that will be forced to join in?
by Thermodolia » Mon May 20, 2019 11:31 am
Emazia wrote:Thermodolia wrote:I wouldn’t call what the Israelis are doing genocide but it’s definitely ethnic cleansing.
https://ccrjustice.org/genocide-palesti ... erspective
According to Lemkin, it is.
by Emazia » Mon May 20, 2019 11:32 am
Upper Saust Latiegebestica wrote:Emazia wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ethni ... _Palestine
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20180 ... ah-status/
https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2018/c ... /palestine
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/i ... e-genocide
One is Wikipedia, two are biased, one is the Human Rights Watch. I can get you more if needed.
everybody knows that Wikipedia is Biased toward the left, just look at their Donald Trump Page.
also, that HRW article provides literally no sources whatsoever to back up those statements. Did you know that there has been no Jewish Settlement in the west bank and Gaza since 2005? They evacuated it.
by Upper Saust Latiegebestica » Mon May 20, 2019 11:33 am
by Emazia » Mon May 20, 2019 11:33 am
by Emazia » Mon May 20, 2019 11:34 am
Upper Saust Latiegebestica wrote:Thermodolia wrote:And?
there is no genocide in Israel, rather, the Palestinians want to exterminate the Jews. In fact, they were openly supported by Hitler
https://www.ushmm.org/research/publicat ... -palestine
by Emazia » Mon May 20, 2019 11:35 am
by Khataiy » Mon May 20, 2019 11:48 am
by Aclion » Mon May 20, 2019 11:49 am
North German Realm wrote:Uuuuuuuh, no. The current generation is a lot more anti-Islamic, anti-IR, and (to a lesser degree) pro-Monarchist than the previous generation (you know, the ones who did the most idiotic thing the Iranian People as a whole have done in the last 200 years)
by Khataiy » Mon May 20, 2019 11:50 am
Aclion wrote:North German Realm wrote:Uuuuuuuh, no. The current generation is a lot more anti-Islamic, anti-IR, and (to a lesser degree) pro-Monarchist than the previous generation (you know, the ones who did the most idiotic thing the Iranian People as a whole have done in the last 200 years)
...and therefore less supportive of an Islamic state that overthrew the monarchy in the Islamic revolution.
by North German Realm » Mon May 20, 2019 11:51 am
Aclion wrote:North German Realm wrote:Uuuuuuuh, no. The current generation is a lot more anti-Islamic, anti-IR, and (to a lesser degree) pro-Monarchist than the previous generation (you know, the ones who did the most idiotic thing the Iranian People as a whole have done in the last 200 years)
...and therefore less supportive of an Islamic state that overthrew the monarchy in the Islamic revolution.
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