Indeed. They piggyback off Americas healthcare industry.
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by The Emerald Legion » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:10 am
by Nea Byzantia » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:17 am
Shofercia wrote:Got a call from Putin today, and he was all like "Shof, I know you love Jon Stewart, have you seen his latest video? Can you start an NSG thread about it?" And I was like "Sure, just give a small city in Russia or something" - so I got a harem in Nahodka. Joking aside, Jon Stewart ripped the US Congress over failure to provide healthcare to the first responders to 9/11. To those thinking it was just a New York Issue, Stewart said: "Al Qaeda did not shout Death to Tribeca!" Stewart went after both the Democratic House and the Republican Senate. Here's the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQkMJgaHAkY
And the coverage that it's getting. Here's Fox: https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/9- ... or-fundingComedian and advocate Jon Stewart teared into lawmakers of the House Judiciary Committee for skipping the September 11th Victim Compensation Fund Opens a New Window. hearing. “As I sit here today, I can’t help but think what an incredible metaphor this room is for the entire process that getting health care and benefits for 9/11 first responders has come to,” Stewart said. “Behind me, a filled room of 9/11 first responders, and in front of me, a nearly empty Congress. Sick and dying, they brought themselves down here to speak to no one.” Several congressional members were no-shows at Tuesday’s hearing to discuss the renewal of funds...
Gerard Fitzgerald, the president of the Uniformed Firefighter Association of Greater New York and a 9/11 first responder, said they were given a five-year projected cost of medical benefits and funds are rapidly running out.
“Unfortunately, because of the amount of victims that have put in for that money, it’s running out quicker than we ever thought would happen,” he said. “We’re a full-- more than a year out from when it’s supposed to expire (in 2020) and they have cut the funding."
Slate: https://slate.com/culture/2019/06/jon-s ... ction.html
PBS: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/w ... responders
So, what does NSG think?
Although I'm no longer a fan of Obamacare, I think that the First Responders to 9/11 should be given free healthcare for life; this is about a country's Soul, and it's not something that should be for sale; Congress disagrees.
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:17 am
by The Emerald Legion » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:23 am
by Ifreann » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:41 am
The Emerald Legion wrote:Ifreann wrote:How's that?
Well over half of medical research is performed for profit in America.
Americans typically get better treatment than elsewhere, which accounts for some of the cost, but the real price jack is the fact that other nations refuse to allow pharmaceutical companies to make a profit out of a misguided belief that they should just do it for free.
They steal American Medicine, then have the gal to tell us their healthcare is better, when typically it's not only worse, but it's cheaper because they've literally robbed us for it.
by Aclion » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:45 am
by Kavagrad » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:45 am
Ifreann wrote:The Emerald Legion wrote:Well over half of medical research is performed for profit in America.
Americans typically get better treatment than elsewhere, which accounts for some of the cost, but the real price jack is the fact that other nations refuse to allow pharmaceutical companies to make a profit out of a misguided belief that they should just do it for free.
They steal American Medicine, then have the gal to tell us their healthcare is better, when typically it's not only worse, but it's cheaper because they've literally robbed us for it.
How are we stealing American medicine? American company develops some new medicine, they sell it at a profit, our governments buy it from them, we get it in our hospitals. Where's the theft?
by San Lumen » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:48 am
Saiwania wrote:Who cares what some liberal comedian wants? Fact is, I don't see US healthcare changing until or when that system collapses. Like government healthcare is going to solve anything asides from changing who pays for it (which will significantly increase taxes), and maybe making it so prices aren't inflated out of thin air, but have some relation to reality.
by Nea Byzantia » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:49 am
San Lumen wrote:Saiwania wrote:Who cares what some liberal comedian wants? Fact is, I don't see US healthcare changing until or when that system collapses. Like government healthcare is going to solve anything asides from changing who pays for it (which will significantly increase taxes), and maybe making it so prices aren't inflated out of thin air, but have some relation to reality.
That liberal democrat as you put it is fighting for something these men and women are entitled too. They risked their health and very lives in our nations darkest hour. They deserve the health benefits and to treat them like political pawns and props is shameful and that's what he was talking about.
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:57 am
The Emerald Legion wrote:Ifreann wrote:How's that?
Well over half of medical research is performed for profit in America.
Americans typically get better treatment than elsewhere, which accounts for some of the cost, but the real price jack is the fact that other nations refuse to allow pharmaceutical companies to make a profit out of a misguided belief that they should just do it for free.
They steal American Medicine, then have the gal to tell us their healthcare is better, when typically it's not only worse, but it's cheaper because they've literally robbed us for it.
Aclion wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
What
https://bigjolly.com/how-united-states- ... zes-world/
TL;DR single payer healthcare systems do not pay enough to cover the cost of developing new treatments and medication, only enough to cover the cost of providing it once it is developed. This is effectively a subsidy for these healthcare systems, which get the benefit of new treatments, paid for by consumers in countries with private healthcare, without needing to pay for the research that is required to develop it.
by The Emerald Legion » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:03 am
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:The Emerald Legion wrote:Well over half of medical research is performed for profit in America.
Americans typically get better treatment than elsewhere, which accounts for some of the cost, but the real price jack is the fact that other nations refuse to allow pharmaceutical companies to make a profit out of a misguided belief that they should just do it for free.
They steal American Medicine, then have the gal to tell us their healthcare is better, when typically it's not only worse, but it's cheaper because they've literally robbed us for it.
China and Japan actually have more business sectors in R&D. 77.3% and 77.8% respectively.
In percentage of GDP South Korea leads.
TIL buying something is stealing something.
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:13 am
The Emerald Legion wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
China and Japan actually have more business sectors in R&D. 77.3% and 77.8% respectively.
In percentage of GDP South Korea leads.
TIL buying something is stealing something.
Which doesn't change that 60-70% of medical research is American.
It's stealing because they aren't buying it. They manufacture it themselves and sell at cost.
by The Emerald Legion » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:42 am
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:The Emerald Legion wrote:
Which doesn't change that 60-70% of medical research is American.
It's stealing because they aren't buying it. They manufacture it themselves and sell at cost.
Doesn't look like 60% to 70% to me.
China, UK, Japan, and Germany together out number US medical studies.
They are buying it, making it, and distributing it. That's the free market.
by Aclion » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:46 am
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:The Emerald Legion wrote:
Which doesn't change that 60-70% of medical research is American.
It's stealing because they aren't buying it. They manufacture it themselves and sell at cost.
Doesn't look like 60% to 70% to me.
China, UK, Japan, and Germany together out number US medical studies.
They are buying it, making it, and distributing it. That's the free market.
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:They are buying it, making it, and distributing it. That's the free market.
by The Emerald Legion » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:37 am
by The Alma Mater » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:39 am
The Emerald Legion wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Doesn't look like 60% to 70% to me.
China, UK, Japan, and Germany together out number US medical studies.
They are buying it, making it, and distributing it. That's the free market.
Doubtful. Given you are relying on UNESCO numbers it's no wonder you have a skewed view of things.
by The Emerald Legion » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:42 am
by Nova Cyberia » Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:13 am
by Nea Byzantia » Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:27 am
Nova Cyberia wrote:I'm ashamed that Jon Stewart still exists, tbh.
by Telconi » Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:28 am
by Evil Dictators Happyland » Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:36 am
The Emerald Legion wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
China and Japan actually have more business sectors in R&D. 77.3% and 77.8% respectively.
In percentage of GDP South Korea leads.
TIL buying something is stealing something.
Which doesn't change that 60-70% of medical research is American.
It's stealing because they aren't buying it. They manufacture it themselves and sell at cost.
by The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:45 am
Duhon wrote:I see Emerald Legion's using insane troll logic to bash foreigners for trying to live, while implicitly shilling for a tragically unequal healthcare system in his own country.
OK, nah.
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