Hong Kong

[New haven america]

If the government's acting like a tyrannical overlord who's trying to take away your rights and freedoms, sure it is.

At that point the government's the bad guy.

Not when you attack government buildings

After the government attacked the rights and freedoms of those in Hong Kong. Come on, follow along better.

Also, fyi, that extradition law would affect you, as it says that the Chinese government would be allowed to arrest and take whoever it wants out of Hong Kong and into mainland China, regardless of whether their Hong Konger/Chinese or not.

[Pasong Tirad]

Please Understand, I wish both hong kong and Taiwan were happy free nations perfectly allowed to go on their own independent way with friendly relations with the PRC based on their shared cultural heritage. I just dont see either happening without a fairly large war occuring, that end of the day, will be won by the PRC.

The problem is that there is an illegal entity where Republic of China is supposed to be located, namely the so-called PRC.

This pipe dream of Taiwan - sorry, the "Republic of China" - somehow gaining enough military power to breach the Mainland and take back Beijing needs to end. Taiwan doesn't want to retake the mainland nor does it want to become another component of the failed one country, two systems policy. It wants to be an independent Republic of Taiwan and give up all claims to the Mainland - and Mongolia, weirdly enough. The PRC just doesn't want to do that and that is the problem, not that the PRC shouldn't exist.

[Loben The 2nd]

Kinda in the name.

“Wars”

If the decedents of the defeated would like to complain to The Hague or an equally useless international body, they can gladly go ahead.

Yes, as if wars can't be used as an excuse for genocide.

Like I said, they can run to The Hague. Won’t change a thing but they are due a last hurrah that doesn’t involve the cavalry.

[Pasong Tirad]

If the government's acting like a tyrannical overlord who's trying to take away your rights and freedoms, sure it is.

At that point the government's the bad guy.

Not when you attack government buildings

They've been beating up and pepper spraying civilians for weeks now and you're somehow pissy that somebody spray painted some graffiti on a wall? Yeah, alright. Sure.

[Ethel mermania]

The problem is that there is an illegal entity where Republic of China is supposed to be located, namely the so-called PRC.

This pipe dream of Taiwan - sorry, the "Republic of China" - somehow gaining enough military power to breach the Mainland and take back Beijing needs to end. Taiwan doesn't want to retake the mainland nor does it want to become another component of the failed one country, two systems policy. It wants to be an independent Republic of Taiwan and give up all claims to the Mainland - and Mongolia, weirdly enough. The PRC just doesn't want to do that and that is the problem, not that the PRC shouldn't exist.

Shame they didnt want that in 1973.

[Infected Mushroom]

Not when you attack government buildings

After the government attacked the rights and freedoms of those in Hong Kong. Come on, follow along better.

Also, fyi, that extradition law would affect you, as it says that the Chinese government would be allowed to arrest and take whoever it wants out of Hong Kong and into mainland China, regardless of whether their Hong Konger/Chinese or not.

It’s only going to be used to extradite actual criminals

There was nothing to fear until these people turned Central/Admiralty into a war zone

I am glad they’ve been stopped once more

[New haven america]

Not when you attack government buildings

They've been beating up and pepper spraying civilians for weeks now and you're somehow pissy that somebody spray painted some graffiti on a wall? Yeah, alright. Sure.

Because they're not being compliant and just bending over and allowing the nice and kind Chinese government to pump some glorious authoritarianism into the place.

[New haven america]

After the government attacked the rights and freedoms of those in Hong Kong. Come on, follow along better.

Also, fyi, that extradition law would affect you, as it says that the Chinese government would be allowed to arrest and take whoever it wants out of Hong Kong and into mainland China, regardless of whether their Hong Konger/Chinese or not.

It’s only going to be used to extradite actual criminals

There was nothing to fear until these people turned Central/Admiralty into a war zone

I am glad they’ve been stopped once more

It amazes me that despite living in that part of the world, you know absolutely jack shit about it.

[Infected Mushroom]

Not when you attack government buildings

They've been beating up and pepper spraying civilians for weeks now and you're somehow pissy that somebody spray painted some graffiti on a wall? Yeah, alright. Sure.

Reasonable police action to maintain law and order

This is not Paris. Out of control riots are not allowed

[Infected Mushroom]

It’s only going to be used to extradite actual criminals

There was nothing to fear until these people turned Central/Admiralty into a war zone

I am glad they’ve been stopped once more

Despite living in that part of the world, it amazes me that you know so little about it.

I have actual stakes and these protests are not in the interest of Hong Kong

[Novus America]

After the government attacked the rights and freedoms of those in Hong Kong. Come on, follow along better.

Also, fyi, that extradition law would affect you, as it says that the Chinese government would be allowed to arrest and take whoever it wants out of Hong Kong and into mainland China, regardless of whether their Hong Konger/Chinese or not.

It’s only going to be used to extradite actual criminals

There was nothing to fear until these people turned Central/Admiralty into a war zone

I am glad they’ve been stopped once more

This is BS. The PRC “justice” system is infamous for politicization, lack of due process, lack of rights for the accused, zero transparency, and of course punishing people for political opinions.

[Bombadil]

It’s only going to be used to extradite actual criminals

Like the booksellers they whisked out of HK and into China?

This only legalises what they've already done, which is essentially to clamp down on free speech.

[Loben The 2nd]

Despite living in that part of the world, it amazes me that you know so little about it.

I have actual stakes and these protests are not in the interest of Hong Kong

Stakes as in?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Despite living in that part of the world, it amazes me that you know so little about it.

I have actual stakes and these protests are not in the interest of Hong Kong

Around 1 million people protested during the 1st round of protests when this thread was made. Many have followed.

Just because you suck up to the PRC doesn't mean everyone else does. And what stakes are you talking about?

[Infected Mushroom]

It’s only going to be used to extradite actual criminals

There was nothing to fear until these people turned Central/Admiralty into a war zone

I am glad they’ve been stopped once more

This is BS. The PRC “justice” system is infamous for politicization, lack of due process, lack of rights for the accused, zero transparency, and of course punishing people for political opinions.

I’m sure they would use this tool with restraint in HK because the media would report its use every time

[Infected Mushroom]

I have actual stakes and these protests are not in the interest of Hong Kong

Around 1 million people protested during the 1st round of protests when this thread was made. Many have followed.

Just because you suck up to the PRC doesn't mean everyone else does. And what stakes are you talking about?

There’s far more than 1 million people living in HK

Most of us are not interested in starting a war with China

[El-Amin Caliphate]

It’s only going to be used to extradite actual criminals

Like the booksellers they whisked out of HK and into China?

This only legalises what they've already done, which is essentially to clamp down on free speech.

So they aren't actually getting criminals, just dissenters, or in this case, just literally anyone. Go figure.

[New haven america]

Despite living in that part of the world, it amazes me that you know so little about it.

I have actual stakes and these protests are not in the interest of Hong Kong

Except they totally are in the interest of Hong Kong, as those in Hong Kong didn't want to be part of China to being with.

And yes, you do have actual stakes, as if you do anything to even slightly annoy the Chinese government then they'll have no problem waltzing into your classroom and sending you to the very racist and authoritarian mainland. But you seem to actually want that, for some reason.

[Pasong Tirad]

It’s only going to be used to extradite actual criminals

iT's OnLy GoInG tO bE uSeD tO eXtRaDiTe aCtUaL cRiMiNaLs

Fucking lol. Nobody believes that for a second.

[Loben The 2nd]

Around 1 million people protested during the 1st round of protests when this thread was made. Many have followed.

Just because you suck up to the PRC doesn't mean everyone else does. And what stakes are you talking about?

There’s far more than 1 million people living in HK

Most of us are not interested in starting a war with China

Tell me, what’s your social credit score?

[New haven america]

Around 1 million people protested during the 1st round of protests when this thread was made. Many have followed.

Just because you suck up to the PRC doesn't mean everyone else does. And what stakes are you talking about?

There’s far more than 1 million people living in HK

Most of us are not interested in starting a war with China

7 million live in HK, with 2 million having protested in the most recent events.

That's 2/7's or ~30% of the total population. If you still fail to see the size of that, that would be ~97 million American protesting or ~11 million Canadians protesting.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Around 1 million people protested during the 1st round of protests when this thread was made. Many have followed.

Just because you suck up to the PRC doesn't mean everyone else does. And what stakes are you talking about?

There’s far more than 1 million people living in HK

I know

Most of us are not interested in starting a war with China

Protesting =/= war-mongering

[Pasong Tirad]

Around 1 million people protested during the 1st round of protests when this thread was made. Many have followed.

Just because you suck up to the PRC doesn't mean everyone else does. And what stakes are you talking about?

There’s far more than 1 million people living in HK

Most of us are not interested in starting a war with China

False dichotomies are fun, aren't they? Because clearly the only options are to bend over to Beijing or for the PLA to send in the tanks and shoot everybody up ala Tiananmen.

Twisting facts to fit your narrative are also fun. Such as somehow diminishing the number of 1 million to "not all people," which is technically true, except when you take into consideration that there are around 7 million people living in Hong Kong and 1 out of 7 - which went to a high of around 2 out of 7 when over 2 million people went out to a march - is a pretty big fucking deal.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Sometimes vandalism of Government property is justified.
Makes sense. You'd probably have violently suppressed them even if they remained peaceful.

Storming government buildings and destroying them is essentially treason

No. It is vandalism, nothing more.

[Nakena]

There’s far more than 1 million people living in HK

Most of us are not interested in starting a war with China

Tell me, what’s your social credit score?

Social Credit points are awarded for pro-PRC posting on NSG.

Not even Shareblue and Soros Shekel are that advanced.