Hong Kong

[EastKekistan]

Canada would like to have a word with you

And the Inuit and First Nations would rightly want a word with Canada.

Yeah and Austronesians want to have a word with Taiwan. Who cares? Thankfully we settler colonized Taiwan and thankfully whites settler colonized Canada. An Austronesian Taiwan would have been in need of perpetual aid and dangerous.

[EastKekistan]

Who cares? White colonization of Canada was a net benefit to humanity.

Yep, kidnapping children from their mothers is great

Net benefit. We need to use uilitarianism.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Yep, kidnapping children from their mothers is great

Net benefit. We need to use uilitarianism.

Kidnapping is a net benefit?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Sry, we're getting off topic here

[EastKekistan]

Net benefit. We need to use uilitarianism.

Kidnapping is a net benefit?

I said that white settler colonization of Canada was a net benefit to humanity, not that individual actions in such colonization are necessarily beneficial.

[EastKekistan]

Sry, we're getting off topic here

Right. Hong Kong is a completely different case.

Question 1: Are Hong Kongese capable of self-rule?

Yes.

Question 2: Shall Hong Kong be returned to Britain?

Nope since the answer to Q1 is "Yes".

Question 3: Shall Hong Kong be ruled by commies in Beijing?

HELL NO. Commies suck.

[Ethel mermania]

Sry, we're getting off topic here

Right. Hong Kong is a completely different case.

Question 1: Are Hong Kongese capable of self-rule?

Yes.

Question 2: Shall Hong Kong be returned to Britain?

Nope since the answer to Q1 is "Yes".

Question 3: Shall Hong Kong be ruled by commies in Beijing?

HELL NO. Commies suck.

Which will lead to a hell of a lot of dead HKongians, cause the PRC is not going to say. "Opps, Sorry, have it your way".

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Sry, we're getting off topic here

Right. Hong Kong is a completely different case.

Question 1: Are Hong Kongese capable of self-rule?

Yes.

Question 2: Shall Hong Kong be returned to Britain?

Nope since the answer to Q1 is "Yes".

Question 3: Shall Hong Kong be ruled by commies in Beijing?

*ELL NO. Commies suck.

The PRC isn't communist.

[Tuthina]

Right. Hong Kong is a completely different case.

Question 1: Are Hong Kongese capable of self-rule?

Yes.

Question 2: Shall Hong Kong be returned to Britain?

Nope since the answer to Q1 is "Yes".

Question 3: Shall Hong Kong be ruled by commies in Beijing?

HELL NO. Commies suck.

Which will lead to a hell of a lot of dead HKongians, cause the PRC is not going to say. "Opps, Sorry, have it your way".

Then again, the fact that three have already killed themselves with the cause explicitly due to the hopelessness of getting the government listen (and the government still doesn't), more and more would probably lean towards death being preferable if the pressure continued to build up.

[Ethel mermania]

Which will lead to a hell of a lot of dead HKongians, cause the PRC is not going to say. "Opps, Sorry, have it your way".

Then again, the fact that three have already killed themselves with the cause explicitly due to the hopelessness of getting the government listen (and the government still doesn't), more and more would probably lean towards death being preferable if the pressure continued to build up.

I dont think the PRC puts the same value on human life that you do

[Kowani]

And you think any of the first nation tribes believe that??

Who cares? White colonization of Canada was a net benefit to humanity.

Citation needed.

[New haven america]

Welp, looks like Hong Kong's gonna get reabsorbed back into China within the next few years.

[EastKekistan]

Who cares? White colonization of Canada was a net benefit to humanity.

Citation needed.

Is there any developed predominantly Native American state?

[New haven america]

Sry, we're getting off topic here

Right. Hong Kong is a completely different case.

Question 1: Are Hong Kongese capable of self-rule?

Yes.

Question 2: Shall Hong Kong be returned to Britain?

Nope since the answer to Q1 is "Yes".

Question 3: Shall Hong Kong be ruled by commies in Beijing?

HELL NO. Commies suck.

So if question 2 is Nope, then why do so many in Hong Kong actually want to go back to the UK?

And why are they flying the UK's colonial flag in Hong Kong's legislative council ATM?

[EastKekistan]

Right. Hong Kong is a completely different case.

Question 1: Are Hong Kongese capable of self-rule?

Yes.

Question 2: Shall Hong Kong be returned to Britain?

Nope since the answer to Q1 is "Yes".

Question 3: Shall Hong Kong be ruled by commies in Beijing?

HELL NO. Commies suck.

So if question 2 is Nope, then why do so many in Hong Kong actually want to go back to the UK?

And why are they flying the UK's colonial flag in Hong Kong's legislative council ATM?

If they really want that proven by a fair referendum, so be it.

[New haven america]

Which will lead to a hell of a lot of dead HKongians, cause the PRC is not going to say. "Opps, Sorry, have it your way".

Then again, the fact that three have already killed themselves with the cause explicitly due to the hopelessness of getting the government listen (and the government still doesn't), more and more would probably lean towards death being preferable if the pressure continued to build up.

Asian cultures generally don't tend to have the same value of life as Western cultures tend to.

[Kowani]

Citation needed.

Is there any developed predominantly Native American state?

…The idea that genocide makes things better is not a road you want to go down.

[Aureumterra]

Hong Kong being an independent protectorate of the UK could work, since assimilating back into its colonial government wouldn’t be too good for democracy either (although still better than Xi “The second Dragon Emperor of Qin” Jinping)

[Salandriagado]

Citation needed.

Is there any developed predominantly Native American state?

There were (by contemprary standards), before they got genocided.

[Ethel mermania]

Hong Kong being an independent protectorate of the UK could work, since assimilating back into its colonial government wouldn’t be too good for democracy either (although still better than Xi “The second Dragon Emperor of Qin” Jinping)

Do you think the PRC is going to allow this without a fight?

[Loben The 2nd]

Is there any developed predominantly Native American state?

There were (by contemprary standards), before they got genocided.

I wouldn’t really call the Indian wars genocide tbh.

[Cappuccina]

Welp, looks like Hong Kong's gonna get reabsorbed back into China within the next few years.

That was going to happen anyway, the treaty that returned Hong Kong to China will only last til like 2040 or so.

[Salandriagado]

There were (by contemprary standards), before they got genocided.

I wouldn’t really call the Indian wars genocide tbh.

That says a lot more about you than it does about the Indian wars.

[Aureumterra]

Hong Kong being an independent protectorate of the UK could work, since assimilating back into its colonial government wouldn’t be too good for democracy either (although still better than Xi “The second Dragon Emperor of Qin” Jinping)

Do you think the PRC is going to allow this without a fight?

No, but China isn’t going to go to complete war. Basically all of China’s neighbors except NoKo and Vietnam hate them, not to mention rebellion within China itself, in the autonomous territories (hell, even Manchurian independence has made a resurgence this year, that should say something). If China goes to war with the UK, it’s going to be a complete Asian collapse, and dare I say, World War III

[Bombadil]

Do you think the PRC is going to allow this without a fight?

No, but China isn’t going to go to complete war. Basically all of China’s neighbors except NoKo and Vietnam hate them, not to mention rebellion within China itself, in the autonomous territories (hell, even Manchurian independence has made a resurgence this year, that should say something). If China goes to war with the UK, it’s going to be a complete Asian collapse, and dare I say, World War III

The UK wouldn't go to war with China.