Hong Kong

[Infected Mushroom]

Maybe they'll use those islands the Chinese have been building in the South China Sea.

They'll certainly want to go somewhere with a Cantonese community, Hkers can be real funny about food.. to the point of being physically distraught at not being able to eat Cantonese food. The western habit of eating sandwiches at lunch is deeply weird to many HKers.

In fact I suspect if you asked HKers if they'd prefer to be poor with ample supply of Cantonese food or rich and never eat Cantonese food again they'd plump for the former.

well this DOES explain why I find it so difficult to find good and affordable western food here...

it's one of my dislikes about this place

[Duhon]

Work. Eat. Play. Retire. Die.

And Study. Marrying before a certain age too.

Pampering yourself before death.

[Bombadil]

They'll certainly want to go somewhere with a Cantonese community, Hkers can be real funny about food.. to the point of being physically distraught at not being able to eat Cantonese food. The western habit of eating sandwiches at lunch is deeply weird to many HKers.

In fact I suspect if you asked HKers if they'd prefer to be poor with ample supply of Cantonese food or rich and never eat Cantonese food again they'd plump for the former.

well this DOES explain why I find it so difficult to find good and affordable western food here...

it's one of my dislikes about this place

One of many it seems..

[Infected Mushroom]

And Study. Marrying before a certain age too.

Pampering yourself before death.

at least in Korea you have a sizeable gaming community

this general spirit of this place is by comparison, so deadbeat

Work (and by Work they mean Money) and Family (aka marriage and kids). Full Stop.

How boring is that...

[Infected Mushroom]

well this DOES explain why I find it so difficult to find good and affordable western food here...

it's one of my dislikes about this place

One of many it seems..

I've decided that the California Pizza Kitchen in my neighbourhood is a rare gemstone (the prices are better once you have the memberships too)

every other western place around here seems to close down after a few months for some reason after I regularly visit

[Duhon]

Pampering yourself before death.

at least in Korea you have a sizeable gaming community

this general spirit of this place is by comparison, so deadbeat

Work (and by Work they mean Money) and Family (aka marriage and kids). Full Stop.

How boring is that...

Boring? You prefer that imposed from above, by your oh-so-benevolent Chinese authorities, and you're bored?

Well, I suppose it's human nature to be contradictory.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Pampering yourself before death.

at least in Korea you have a sizeable gaming community

this general spirit of this place is by comparison, so deadbeat

Work (and by Work they mean Money) and Family (aka marriage and kids). Full Stop.

How boring is that...

Do you really care for nothing more than gaming?

[Pasong Tirad]

at least in Korea you have a sizeable gaming community

this general spirit of this place is by comparison, so deadbeat

Work (and by Work they mean Money) and Family (aka marriage and kids). Full Stop.

How boring is that...

Do you really care for nothing more than gaming?

He's made that very clear in several instances. Hong Kong's freedoms being eroded by Beijing? Over 2,000 people getting gunned down in Tiananmen? Fuck that, got mine.

[Bombadil]

Pampering yourself before death.

at least in Korea you have a sizeable gaming community

this general spirit of this place is by comparison, so deadbeat

Work (and by Work they mean Money) and Family (aka marriage and kids). Full Stop.

How boring is that...

Really, most people who visit HK from Asia or anywhere else often talk to how vibrant and fun it is. HK humour is famous beyond the city, lots of street life and activities. HKers walk more each day than anywhere else on earth.

Something I've really noticed over even the past 10 years is the extent to which HKers are taking up hiking, water sports, travelling.. I get the feeling you hardly interact with the city at all.

There are major issues but most stem from the government's appalling lack of vision. Look at the shitty waterfront in the harbour in comparison to what Singapore is doing. Beyond generally kowtowing to Beijing and property developers they are cowardly when it comes to making the city a better place to live.

Even Shenzhen has implemented electric busses across the city, HK could easily do the same but they're more concerned with faffing about and scolding the people of HK for not toeing the line.

[Infected Mushroom]

at least in Korea you have a sizeable gaming community

this general spirit of this place is by comparison, so deadbeat

Work (and by Work they mean Money) and Family (aka marriage and kids). Full Stop.

How boring is that...

Do you really care for nothing more than gaming?

It is one of my life’s great passions.

However, I also like movies/shows, drawing, writing, and electronic dance music

Now that I’m working most of the week, I’m looking at how to divide the free time to accommodate personal projects with regards to each

[Bombadil]

You have to admire the balls of China..

Despite the blazing heat, representatives of various organizations in Hong Kong rose to the occasion on Sunday, staging various public activities across the city in support of the government's plans to amend the SAR's extradition laws.
Members of Safeguard HK, Support the Surrender of Fugitive Offenders Legislation group marched to Central Government Offices in Admiralty, urging the government to enact the new laws to uphold the rule of law and protect public security.
By midnight more than 800,000 people had pledged support in a city-wide signature campaign online and at street stands, organized by a local alliance of prominent political, business and legal figures, countering a protest by about 240,000 people on Sunday to oppose the revised extradition bill, according to the police.

China Daily

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

You have to admire the balls of China..

Despite the blazing heat, representatives of various organizations in Hong Kong rose to the occasion on Sunday, staging various public activities across the city in support of the government's plans to amend the SAR's extradition laws.
Members of Safeguard HK, Support the Surrender of Fugitive Offenders Legislation group marched to Central Government Offices in Admiralty, urging the government to enact the new laws to uphold the rule of law and protect public security.
By midnight more than 800,000 people had pledged support in a city-wide signature campaign online and at street stands, organized by a local alliance of prominent political, business and legal figures, countering a protest by about 240,000 people on Sunday to oppose the revised extradition bill, according to the police.

China Daily

How are things this morning?

[Infected Mushroom]

You have to admire the balls of China..

Despite the blazing heat, representatives of various organizations in Hong Kong rose to the occasion on Sunday, staging various public activities across the city in support of the government's plans to amend the SAR's extradition laws.
Members of Safeguard HK, Support the Surrender of Fugitive Offenders Legislation group marched to Central Government Offices in Admiralty, urging the government to enact the new laws to uphold the rule of law and protect public security.
By midnight more than 800,000 people had pledged support in a city-wide signature campaign online and at street stands, organized by a local alliance of prominent political, business and legal figures, countering a protest by about 240,000 people on Sunday to oppose the revised extradition bill, according to the police.

China Daily

How are things this morning?

It’s my day off so I walked down the street and the mall to eat some Dan Dan noodle with tea.

Everything looks pretty normal from here.

[Bombadil]

You have to admire the balls of China..

Despite the blazing heat, representatives of various organizations in Hong Kong rose to the occasion on Sunday, staging various public activities across the city in support of the government's plans to amend the SAR's extradition laws.
Members of Safeguard HK, Support the Surrender of Fugitive Offenders Legislation group marched to Central Government Offices in Admiralty, urging the government to enact the new laws to uphold the rule of law and protect public security.
By midnight more than 800,000 people had pledged support in a city-wide signature campaign online and at street stands, organized by a local alliance of prominent political, business and legal figures, countering a protest by about 240,000 people on Sunday to oppose the revised extradition bill, according to the police.

China Daily

How are things this morning?

Quiet.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

How are things this morning?

Quiet.

Per your experience, is that quietness good or concerning?

[Bombadil]

Quiet.

Per your experience, is that quietness good or concerning?

Very much not sure..

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Per your experience, is that quietness good or concerning?

Very much not sure..

That’s probably the worst part. Not knowing if it’s over or just the calm before the storm.

[Bear Stearns]

Expect to see massive capital flights from Hong Kong, followed by the Hong Kongers themselves.

There's 7.4 million Hong Kongers, where they gonna go?

I don't think all of them would leave.

[Major-Tom]

Expect to see massive capital flights from Hong Kong, followed by the Hong Kongers themselves.

There's 7.4 million Hong Kongers, where they gonna go?

If the situation deteriorates, I could foresee a great number of HKers leaving for better waters. Take 1997 for instance. Hong Kong had the handover to China. Up to 800,000 people emigrated from HK in the next few years, mostly to cities such as Vancouver, San Francisco, and other Pacific cities.

It's not a certainty, but certainly a possibility that could again have a hugely detrimental impact on Hong Kong, and in conjunction, China itself.

[-Ocelot-]

There's 7.4 million Hong Kongers, where they gonna go?

If the situation deteriorates, I could foresee a great number of HKers leaving for better waters. Take 1997 for instance. Hong Kong had the handover to China. Up to 800,000 people emigrated from HK in the next few years, mostly to cities such as Vancouver, San Francisco, and other Pacific cities.

It's not a certainty, but certainly a possibility that could again have a hugely detrimental impact on Hong Kong, and in conjunction, China itself.

Aren't most citizens of HK well versed in English?

With the way China treats dissenters, it'll be no surprise if half of the city packs up and leaves. If you ever protested in HK, even once, your face is most likely captured by a camera somewhere. If HK integrates with China, your face can easily go to a database, where you'll be identified as a potential terrorist. This alone can mean jail or different treatment by the state.

[Infected Mushroom]

If the situation deteriorates, I could foresee a great number of HKers leaving for better waters. Take 1997 for instance. Hong Kong had the handover to China. Up to 800,000 people emigrated from HK in the next few years, mostly to cities such as Vancouver, San Francisco, and other Pacific cities.

It's not a certainty, but certainly a possibility that could again have a hugely detrimental impact on Hong Kong, and in conjunction, China itself.

Aren't most citizens of HK well versed in English?

With the way China treats dissenters, it'll be no surprise if half of the city packs up and leaves. If you ever protested in HK, even once, your face is most likely captured by a camera somewhere. If HK integrates with China, your face can easily go to a database, where you'll be identified as a potential terrorist. This alone can mean jail or different treatment by the state.

very very basic English perhaps

but no, most of the people here are not good enough with their English to work in an English speaking country

if that were the case, I for one would not be hired at all to teach it

...

Also, economic and social conservatism will keep the majority of the people here from moving

moving and relocating from country to country is a HUGE HASSLE, I've had the misfortune to have do that many times and each and every time there were plenty of obstacles

I think dealing with symbolic (for now symbolic) oppression from China is a better alternative for most

At most for now, you don't elect the COMPLETE government and they may or may not go through the CE to extradite some people; that's not an unacceptable state of affairs considering even if you could elect the entire government, you'd still be electing from the same pool of the super rich with the same narrow interests

[Great Minarchistan]

"Panem. Circenses. Thanatos."

I mean... I (personally) don't get it

without any work-life balance any money you make beyond a certain point becomes moot (and work-life is not a thing with cantonese culture, you have to work for a more western organization to really get that)

in many sectors, this place now has work hours comparable to Japan...

and the mindless obsession with creating more children and subjugating them to the same hyper-competitive academic culture; its like no one ever pauses to think whether or not this place is too awful for these kids...

I don't see the obsession with Japanese worktime, it's actually pretty normal as far as Western standards of full-time work go

[Bear Stearns]

I mean... I (personally) don't get it

without any work-life balance any money you make beyond a certain point becomes moot (and work-life is not a thing with cantonese culture, you have to work for a more western organization to really get that)

in many sectors, this place now has work hours comparable to Japan...

and the mindless obsession with creating more children and subjugating them to the same hyper-competitive academic culture; its like no one ever pauses to think whether or not this place is too awful for these kids...

I don't see the obsession with Japanese worktime, it's actually pretty normal as far as Western standards of full-time work go

Hong Kong's work hours aren't any different than banking hours in New York or London.

[Nea Byzantia]

Aren't most citizens of HK well versed in English?

With the way China treats dissenters, it'll be no surprise if half of the city packs up and leaves. If you ever protested in HK, even once, your face is most likely captured by a camera somewhere. If HK integrates with China, your face can easily go to a database, where you'll be identified as a potential terrorist. This alone can mean jail or different treatment by the state.

very very basic English perhaps

but no, most of the people here are not good enough with their English to work in an English speaking country

if that were the case, I for one would not be hired at all to teach it

...

Also, economic and social conservatism will keep the majority of the people here from moving

moving and relocating from country to country is a HUGE HASSLE, I've had the misfortune to have do that many times and each and every time there were plenty of obstacles

I think dealing with symbolic (for now symbolic) oppression from China is a better alternative for most

At most for now, you don't elect the COMPLETE government and they may or may not go through the CE to extradite some people; that's not an unacceptable state of affairs considering even if you could elect the entire government, you'd still be electing from the same pool of the super rich with the same narrow interests

Just to play Devil's Advocate, here. Is it possible that China integrating Hong Kong - a city that historically has belonged to China - won't be as bad as all the doomsayers claim. I'm not defending Beijing as a whole, I know they have a lot of blood on their hands; but Hong Kong is Chinese, and thus should be part of China. Perhaps they can even have an impact on China's internal politics in a positive manner? Whatever you think about Beijing, China certainly has more of a right to Hong Kong than Britain ever did.

[Great Minarchistan]

I don't see the obsession with Japanese worktime, it's actually pretty normal as far as Western standards of full-time work go

Hong Kong's work hours aren't any different than banking hours in New York or London.

Much lower depending on the branch, I'd say