Hong Kong

[Plzen]

Also this is the same defense made on behalf of all collaborators. That they kept stability and the occupying power happy.

Vidkun Quisling was, as we all know, an effective leader; even in the face of destabilising violence he was able to remain true to his principles and effectively showed loyalty to both the NS government of his own local area and the Berlin government that represented his race as a whole. Truly, a shining example of a leader that remains firm in the face of rioters and hooligan violence. Obviously.

[Novus America]

It means her child is effectively a hostage.

Also this is the same defense made on behalf of all collaborators. That they kept stability and the occupying power happy.

There’s no collaboration. Hong Kong is Chinese.

You can say Luxembourg was German, it was still occupied by the Nazis.
The people of Hong Kong never agreed to be ruled by the PRC. Not all Chinese are ruled by the PRC.

Regardless of ethnicity it is occupation if it is with without consent.

Also:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.scmp.c ... governance
Hong Kong is in recession it its poor leadership is making it worse.

[Novus America]

Also this is the same defense made on behalf of all collaborators. That they kept stability and the occupying power happy.

Vidkun Quisling was, as we all know, an effective leader; even in the face of destabilising violence he was able to remain true to his principles and effectively showed loyalty to both the NS government of his own local area and the Berlin government that represented his race as a whole. Truly, a shining example of a leader that remains firm in the face of rioters and hooligan violence. Obviously.

Exactly who first came to my mind. By IM’s logic a real hero.

[Victoriala II]

It means her child is effectively a hostage.

Also this is the same defense made on behalf of all collaborators. That they kept stability and the occupying power happy.

There’s no collaboration. Hong Kong is Chinese.

my gramps was chinese do i look like i give a fuck

[Infected Mushroom]

There’s no collaboration. Hong Kong is Chinese.

You can say Luxembourg was German, it was still occupied by the Nazis.
The people of Hong Kong never agreed to be ruled by the PRC. Not all Chinese are ruled by the PRC.

Regardless of ethnicity it is occupation if it is with without consent.

Also:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.scmp.c ... governance
Hong Kong is in recession it its poor leadership is making it worse.

Hong Kong has been Chinese for thousands of years. Even when the UK took it, there was an agreed upon return date.

It’s not comparable.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

It means her child is effectively a hostage.

Also this is the same defense made on behalf of all collaborators. That they kept stability and the occupying power happy.

There’s no collaboration. Hong Kong is Chinese.

You can say Luxembourg was German, it was still occupied by the Nazis.
The people of Hong Kong never agreed to be ruled by the PRC. Not all Chinese are ruled by the PRC.

Regardless of ethnicity it is occupation if it is with without consent.

Also:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.scmp.c ... governance
Hong Kong is in recession it its poor leadership is making it worse.

Hong Kong has been Chinese for thousands of years. Even when the UK took it, there was an agreed upon return date.

It’s not comparable.

A semantic distinction. There's also Singapore, Taiwan, HK and a number of other states which consider themselves ethnically Chinese. Are they all under the domain of the Unrechtsstaat of the Peking regime?

[Infected Mushroom]

Also this is the same defense made on behalf of all collaborators. That they kept stability and the occupying power happy.

Vidkun Quisling was, as we all know, an effective leader; even in the face of destabilising violence he was able to remain true to his principles and effectively showed loyalty to both the NS government of his own local area and the Berlin government that represented his race as a whole. Truly, a shining example of a leader that remains firm in the face of rioters and hooligan violence. Obviously.

It’s not comparable.

Germany and Norway have been separate nations for centuries.

[Neanderthaland]

You can say Luxembourg was German, it was still occupied by the Nazis.
The people of Hong Kong never agreed to be ruled by the PRC. Not all Chinese are ruled by the PRC.

Regardless of ethnicity it is occupation if it is with without consent.

Also:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.scmp.c ... governance
Hong Kong is in recession it its poor leadership is making it worse.

Hong Kong has been Chinese for thousands of years. Even when the UK took it, there was an agreed upon return date.

It’s not comparable.

Very well. Let us hand it back to the Qing Empire then.

[Infected Mushroom]

There’s no collaboration. Hong Kong is Chinese.

Hong Kong has been Chinese for thousands of years. Even when the UK took it, there was an agreed upon return date.

It’s not comparable.

A semantic distinction. There's also Singapore, Taiwan, HK and a number of other states which consider themselves ethnically Chinese. Are they all under the domain of the Unrechtsstaat of the Peking regime?

They’re historically and currently Chinese.

The exception would be Singapore since China has no historical claim to it.

[Infected Mushroom]

Hong Kong has been Chinese for thousands of years. Even when the UK took it, there was an agreed upon return date.

It’s not comparable.

Very well. Let us hand it back to the Qing Empire then.

Is there someone with the right bloodline?

[Neanderthaland]

Very well. Let us hand it back to the Qing Empire then.

Is there someone with the right bloodline?

Not Xi, that's for sure.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

A semantic distinction. There's also Singapore, Taiwan, HK and a number of other states which consider themselves ethnically Chinese. Are they all under the domain of the Unrechtsstaat of the Peking regime?

They’re historically and currently Chinese.

The exception would be Singapore since China has no historical claim to it.

And Vienna has historical claims from the Swiss border and the Alps to the Serbian frontier and deep into Ukraine. What's your point?

[Pasong Tirad]

Very well. Let us hand it back to the Qing Empire then.

Is there someone with the right bloodline?

The House of Aisin-Gioro is still alive and kicking.

[Infected Mushroom]

They’re historically and currently Chinese.

The exception would be Singapore since China has no historical claim to it.

And Vienna has historical claims from the Swiss border and the Alps to the Serbian frontier and deep into Ukraine. What's your point?

Hong Kong is Chinese by every relevant metric

So there is no collaboration with an occupying power, if anything, there’s a duty of loyalty to the state

[Novus America]

You can say Luxembourg was German, it was still occupied by the Nazis.
The people of Hong Kong never agreed to be ruled by the PRC. Not all Chinese are ruled by the PRC.

Regardless of ethnicity it is occupation if it is with without consent.

Also:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.scmp.c ... governance
Hong Kong is in recession it its poor leadership is making it worse.

Hong Kong has been Chinese for thousands of years. Even when the UK took it, there was an agreed upon return date.

It’s not comparable.

Luxembourg was part of Germany for a thousand years.
That means little.

And it is not the point. Just because they are Chinese does not mean they have agreed to be ruled by the Xi regime instead of some other government.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

And Vienna has historical claims from the Swiss border and the Alps to the Serbian frontier and deep into Ukraine. What's your point?

Hong Kong is Chinese by every relevant metric

So there is no collaboration with an occupying power, if anything, there’s a duty of loyalty to the state

You make a very good peasant subject.

[Infected Mushroom]

Hong Kong has been Chinese for thousands of years. Even when the UK took it, there was an agreed upon return date.

It’s not comparable.

Luxembourg was part of Germany for a thousand years.
That means little.

And it is not the point. Just because they are Chinese does not mean they have agreed to be ruled by the Xi regime instead of some other government.

Then maybe Luxembourg should belong to Germany, I don’t know enough about it’s history to comment

[Novus America]

And Vienna has historical claims from the Swiss border and the Alps to the Serbian frontier and deep into Ukraine. What's your point?

Hong Kong is Chinese by every relevant metric

So there is no collaboration with an occupying power, if anything, there’s a duty of loyalty to the state

What right does the Xi government have to rule all ethnically Chinese people?

[Infected Mushroom]

Hong Kong is Chinese by every relevant metric

So there is no collaboration with an occupying power, if anything, there’s a duty of loyalty to the state

What right does the Xi government have to rule all ethnically Chinese people?

I never said he had a claim to Vancouver or Singapore

[Bombadil]

Hong Kong is Chinese by every relevant metric

So there is no collaboration with an occupying power, if anything, there’s a duty of loyalty to the state

What right does the Xi government have to rule all ethnically Chinese people?

The same right Adolf Hitler had to rule all European people.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Hong Kong is Chinese by every relevant metric

So there is no collaboration with an occupying power, if anything, there’s a duty of loyalty to the state

What right does the Xi government have to rule all ethnically Chinese people?

bcuz muh central reich imperialismus. obvs

[Novus America]

Luxembourg was part of Germany for a thousand years.
That means little.

And it is not the point. Just because they are Chinese does not mean they have agreed to be ruled by the Xi regime instead of some other government.

Then maybe Luxembourg should belong to Germany, I don’t know enough about it’s history to comment

It should belong to the Federal Republic of Germany if it wants to be. Not otherwise. Not all historically and ethnically German states are ruled by the Federal Republic of Germany.

Just because a previous government ruled a place does not mean a current government has a right to rule it.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

And Vienna has historical claims from the Swiss border and the Alps to the Serbian frontier and deep into Ukraine. What's your point?

Hong Kong is Chinese by every relevant metric

So there is no collaboration with an occupying power, if anything, there’s a duty of loyalty to the state

What if loyalty to a nation and loyalty to an unjust, terrorising, ethnic cleansing, imperialist-colonialist reich are two different things?

[Novus America]

What right does the Xi government have to rule all ethnically Chinese people?

I never said he had a claim to Vancouver or Singapore

What right does he have to any of it beyond crude might makes right? And even under that metric he does not have a right to rule Taiwan as he is unable to exercise power over it.

[Victoriala II]

Hong Kong is Chinese by every relevant metric

So there is no collaboration with an occupying power, if anything, there’s a duty of loyalty to the state

ok boomer