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In retrospect..

The UK was right to handover HK to China
231
16%
The UK should have kept HK
289
20%
The UK should have set up HK as an independent, democratic state
870
60%
Other
58
4%
 
Total votes : 1448

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Novus America
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Postby Novus America » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:21 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Considering they already have disappeared Hong Kongers with no due process at all, grabbing them an hauling them off to the mainland this is obviously not the case.


I disagree with that

It wouldn’t be worth using except on actual criminals


A source was already posted showing they have disappeared Hong Kongers.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:21 pm

New haven america wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
What about by 2047?

You mean 2049? :roll:


Aye

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:21 pm

Novus America wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
I disagree with that

It wouldn’t be worth using except on actual criminals


A source was already posted showing they have disappeared Hong Kongers.


There are disappearances in all countries worldwide

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Postby Galloism » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:22 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Galloism wrote:That’s not a good thing when you can be disappeared for having the wrong opinion.

I look forward to China banning game of thrones for promoting incest.


I don’t

I do, because you’ll be forced to defend it.
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:22 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Novus America wrote:
A source was already posted showing they have disappeared Hong Kongers.


There are disappearances in all countries worldwide

Jesus Christ this is the worst defense ever what the fuck.

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El-Amin Caliphate
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:22 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Novus America wrote:
A source was already posted showing they have disappeared Hong Kongers.


There are disappearances in all countries worldwide

One of the biggest lies I've heard on this site.
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Postby Bombadil » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:22 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
I disagree with that

It wouldn’t be worth using except on actual criminals

Bombadil already debunked that lie, IM.


Don't worry, they'll soon be coming after the things he loves..

Among the apps removed from major Chinese Android app stores were NetEase Cloud Music, audio platform Lizhi FM and Ximalaya FM, and social app Soul. The apps still appear in app stores, but in place of their descriptions is a message: “According to related laws and regulations, this app is not available for download.”

Music apps were berated for disseminating sexually suggestive songs and promoting anime, comics, and games (ACG)-related interests.


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There'll merely be clean, state loving games and entertainment. Games like this..

Xuexi Qiangguo, which translates to “Study powerful country”, is now the most downloaded item on Apple’s domestic App Store, surpassing in demand social media apps such as WeChat and TikTok – known as Weixin and Douyin, respectively, in mainland China.

Released by the party’s publicity department in January, Xuexi Qiangguo mostly serves as a news aggregation platform for articles, short video clips and documentaries about President Xi Jinping’s political philosophy.

Xuexi Qiangguo requires users to sign up with their mobile numbers and real names. “Study points” are earned by users who log on the app, read articles, make comments every day and participate in multiple-choice tests about the party’s policies.

The growing use of Xuexi Qiangguo across the country is shaping up to be the party’s most successful propaganda effort to date based on recent accounts.

Wu Meisheng, a 66-year-old villager in the eastern coastal province of Shandong, told the Guang Ming Daily that he bought his first smartphone for the purpose of using Xuexi Qiangguo.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:23 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:You're either really, really naive about what Beijing wants or you're being disingenuous in order to derail people's attempts to support the protestors in their fight against Beijing, and I'm not sure which is worse.

Well some Chinese mainlanders are as brainwashed as IM is, so it's possible he actually believes this

Some?
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Postby New haven america » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:23 pm

Galloism wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
I don’t

I do, because you’ll be forced to defend it.

They've already started in small doses.

The series is already heavily censored and cut up over there, with the last few episodes being completely banned due to the trade war.
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Infected Mushroom
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:23 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
There are disappearances in all countries worldwide

Jesus Christ this is the worst defense ever what the fuck.


Can you prove that China caused them to disappear?

No?

Well then it’s no different from disappearances in the US or elsewhere

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:23 pm

Galloism wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
I don’t

I do, because you’ll be forced to defend it.

That'd be morbidly funny to see
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:24 pm

Galloism wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
I don’t

I do, because you’ll be forced to defend it.


Is there a inside joke I need to be aware of?
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Postby Novus America » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:24 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Novus America wrote:
A source was already posted showing they have disappeared Hong Kongers.


There are disappearances in all countries worldwide


Whataboutism is not a defense, it is an admission of guilt.
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Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Pasong Tirad
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:25 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:Jesus Christ this is the worst defense ever what the fuck.


Can you prove that China caused them to disappear?

No?

Well then it’s no different from disappearances in the US or elsewhere

So. Not naive, just disingenuous.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:25 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Galloism wrote:I do, because you’ll be forced to defend it.


Is there a inside joke I need to be aware of?

IM really, really likes Game of Thrones. Like absolutely loves it.
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I'm a (Pan) Islamist ;)
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Postby Novus America » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:26 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Galloism wrote:That’s not a good thing when you can be disappeared for having the wrong opinion.

I look forward to China banning game of thrones for promoting incest.


I don’t


It will be pretty damn funny. You think the things you like are going to be free from PRC censorship just because you like them?
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Zombie Ike/Teddy Roosevelt 2020.

Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Loben The 2nd » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:26 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
Is there a inside joke I need to be aware of?

IM really, really likes Game of Thrones. Like absolutely loves it.

I never got the hype
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Postby Nakena » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:26 pm

Bombadil wrote:Don't worry, they'll soon be coming after the things he loves..

Among the apps removed from major Chinese Android app stores were NetEase Cloud Music, audio platform Lizhi FM and Ximalaya FM, and social app Soul. The apps still appear in app stores, but in place of their descriptions is a message: “According to related laws and regulations, this app is not available for download.”

Music apps were berated for disseminating sexually suggestive songs and promoting anime, comics, and games (ACG)-related interests.


Link


Yes it's time to ban degenerate glorification of 2D-Waifus.

Neckbeards have to be physically removed out of their basements and be reminded and encouraged to fullfill their demographic duties. >:(

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Infected Mushroom
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:27 pm

Novus America wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
There are disappearances in all countries worldwide


Whataboutism is not a defense, it is an admission of guilt.


No it raises doubts about the governmenr’s involvement in the disappearances since other such phenomena are regularly assumed to be non-government-caused disappearance

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:28 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Whataboutism is not a defense, it is an admission of guilt.


No it raises doubts about the governmenr’s involvement in the disappearances since other such phenomena are regularly assumed to be non-government-caused disappearance

It's called whataboutism. Don't assume that your blind defense of the PRC means you're free of logical fallacies.
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Postby New haven america » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:29 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Whataboutism is not a defense, it is an admission of guilt.


No it raises doubts about the governmenr’s involvement in the disappearances since other such phenomena are regularly assumed to be non-government-caused disappearance

Except in China, where the government is regularly known to make people it doesn't like disappear.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:31 pm

New haven america wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
No it raises doubts about the governmenr’s involvement in the disappearances since other such phenomena are regularly assumed to be non-government-caused disappearance

Except in China, where the government is regularly known to make people it doesn't like disappear.


Disappeared one day, out in a camp near the tajik border next!
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Postby Nakena » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:31 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
New haven america wrote:Except in China, where the government is regularly known to make people it doesn't like disappear.


Disappeared one day, out in a camp near the tajik border next!


I am sure it's just a chinese summer camp! Food and sleeping is even for free. True communism.
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Postby New haven america » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:32 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:Jesus Christ this is the worst defense ever what the fuck.


Can you prove that China caused them to disappear?

No?

Well then it’s no different from disappearances in the US or elsewhere

Hey IM, how do you feel about the Uighurs?

If you don't know, they Uighurs are an Turkic Chinese ethnic located in Eastern China, and the Chinese government has been rounding them up and putting millions of them in concentration (And probably death) camps because of the fact they're a majority Muslim group.

What do you think of that?
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:32 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
No it raises doubts about the governmenr’s involvement in the disappearances since other such phenomena are regularly assumed to be non-government-caused disappearance

It's called whataboutism. Don't assume that your blind defense of the PRC means you're free of logical fallacies.


It’s not a logical fallacy

If X happens worldwide and elsewhere it’s casually assumed to be non governmental, then in the absence of proof it would be prejudicial to assume government involvement for just one (or a select group) of countries

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