Hong Kong

[Otira]

And the UN said to have “restraint.”

Doesn’t the UN know that they are a joke to countries with the military might to tell them to fuck off or ignore them?

The UN might not have the authority to tell China to have some restraint but the US and co does. NATO plus Japan, ROK, Vietnam, Thailand and others can all join together and tell China to back the fuck off.

NATO can't make the Russians fuck off of Crimea and Ukraine.

I don't have much faith in their ability to contain China.

[Loben The 2nd]

The UN might not have the authority to tell China to have some restraint but the US and co does. NATO plus Japan, ROK, Vietnam, Thailand and others can all join together and tell China to back the fuck off.

NATO can't make the Russians fuck off of Crimea and Ukraine.

I don't have much faith in their ability to contain China.

Only because the idiots in power have too much to lose to grow a spine.

[Neko-koku]

Fucking wrong again mate, it's very existence was dependent on the Nazi regime:

More an expansion of the Reichswehr.

Yeah.

[Otira]

NATO can't make the Russians fuck off of Crimea and Ukraine.

I don't have much faith in their ability to contain China.

Only because the idiots in power have too much to lose to grow a spine.

And I think that fact carries over into this. Even within the US the Democrats and Republicans disagree with Trump's notions to reduce Chinese power. Will they 180 on this? And as for the rest of NATO... it's about the same in terms of being spineless.

[Loben The 2nd]

More an expansion of the Reichswehr.

Yeah.

Irc they didn’t even make an oath to hitler until 1944.

[Rojava Free State]

NATO can't make the Russians fuck off of Crimea and Ukraine.

I don't have much faith in their ability to contain China.

Only because the idiots in power have too much to lose to grow a spine.

You do realize that a war between nuclear powers would probably end in a nuclear war, right? Imagine the aftermath of Hiroshima times every single city on earth. The end of the world. I'd rather Russia take crimea and China take Hong Kong then have the whole world go down in flames

[Zurkerx]

Ah, the end of Hong Kong's autonomy is coming. Eh, how long until the Chinese Military mobilizes?

[Neko-koku]

I mean..even in Hu era CCP fuckers vehemently reject nationalization of PLA (军队国家化) so they clearly state that PLA is not the military of PRC, instead it IS ONLY an armed wing of the CCP. Occupied China doesn't have a military.

[Rojava Free State]

Ah, the end of Hong Kong's autonomy is coming. Eh, how long until the Chinese Military mobilizes?

They already are. The question is how long till they enter Hong Kong

[Otira]

Fucking wrong again mate, it's very existence was dependent on the Nazi regime:

More an expansion of the Reichswehr.

Pretty much this. They renamed the same organization they inherited. The Waffen-SS was their political militia (among others).

[The South Falls]

NATO can't make the Russians fuck off of Crimea and Ukraine.

I don't have much faith in their ability to contain China.

Only because the idiots in power have too much to lose to grow a spine.

Spines, you see, don't conform with the corporate lobby.

[The New California Republic]

They are still the armed forces of the PRC though, just like the NVA was the armed forces of East Germany.

Only nominally. The NVA wasn’t a literal branch of the party. The the NVA and the party where legally separate entities

They were, but again the integration was extreme, and was a part of the SED in everything but name:

Political control of the armed forces took place through close integration with the Socialist Unity Party of Germany (SED), which vetted all the officers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_ ... y#Ideology

They also had Stasi informants heavily embedded in the NVA, and the vast majority of the recruits had been in the FDJ and Thälmann Pioneers, the youth organizations of the SED. The vast majority of the officers were also SED members.

[Otira]

Yeah.

Irc they didn’t even make an oath to hitler until 1944.

1934. The Nazis move quick.

[Neko-koku]

Ah, the end of Hong Kong's autonomy is coming. Eh, how long until the Chinese Military mobilizes?

They already are. The question is how long till they enter Hong Kong

Some are already in Hong Kong.

[Estanglia]

Only because the idiots in power have too much to lose to grow a spine.

You do realize that a war between nuclear powers would probably end in a nuclear war, right? Imagine the aftermath of Hiroshima times every single city on earth. The end of the world. I'd rather Russia take crimea and China take Hong Kong then have the whole world go down in flames

The problem is; when do we stop?

When do we say, 'Stop expanding or we'll make you stop'? Because if we let them get away with this without doing something, there's no way that dictatorships like the PRC aren't gonna continue expanding as much as possible, whether in land area, influence etc.

[Loben The 2nd]

Only because the idiots in power have too much to lose to grow a spine.

You do realize that a war between nuclear powers would probably end in a nuclear war, right? Imagine the aftermath of Hiroshima times every single city on earth. The end of the world. I'd rather Russia take crimea and China take Hong Kong then have the whole world go down in flames

You lack the vision of the bigger picture, the Russians won’t stop at Crimea and these motherfuckers won’t stop here. The powers that be in Europe and in Washington lack the stomach for war? Fine. But when we wake up and see that at times war is needed? Will it be too late?

[Otira]

Only because the idiots in power have too much to lose to grow a spine.

You do realize that a war between nuclear powers would probably end in a nuclear war, right? Imagine the aftermath of Hiroshima times every single city on earth. The end of the world. I'd rather Russia take crimea and China take Hong Kong then have the whole world go down in flames

What if they realize that's the attitude and press for more? Did appeasement work with the Nazis? Do you let them take what they want under threat of nuclear destruction?

[Neko-koku]

You do realize that a war between nuclear powers would probably end in a nuclear war, right? Imagine the aftermath of Hiroshima times every single city on earth. The end of the world. I'd rather Russia take crimea and China take Hong Kong then have the whole world go down in flames

You lack the vision of the bigger picture, the Russians won’t stop at Crimea and these motherfuckers won’t stop here. The powers that be in Europe and in Washington lack the stomach for war? Fine. But when we wake up and see that at times war is needed? Will it be too late?

CCP and other dictatorships need to be dealt with right meow before they develop more advanced tech and enslave humanity.

[Rojava Free State]

You do realize that a war between nuclear powers would probably end in a nuclear war, right? Imagine the aftermath of Hiroshima times every single city on earth. The end of the world. I'd rather Russia take crimea and China take Hong Kong then have the whole world go down in flames

What if they realize that's the attitude and press for more? Did appeasement work with the Nazis? Do you let them take what they want under threat of nuclear destruction?

First off Hong Kong is technically part of China so it's kinda already theirs. Second off its gonna lose any autonomy it still has in 2047 anyhow so it's a lost cause. Third, what is your alternative? Get into a war with china and bring about the events of the film Threads?

[Neko-koku]

What if they realize that's the attitude and press for more? Did appeasement work with the Nazis? Do you let them take what they want under threat of nuclear destruction?

First off Hong Kong is technically part of China so it's kinda already theirs. Second off its gonna lose any autonomy it still has in 2047 anyhow so it's a lost cause. Third, what is your alternative? Get into a war with china and bring about the events of the film Threads?

Ironically your reasoning is almost the same as CCP's.

Alternatives? I have one. Deal with CCP leaders decisively. Xi, Kim, Putin etc..need to go...I mean..to hell.

[Rojava Free State]

You do realize that a war between nuclear powers would probably end in a nuclear war, right? Imagine the aftermath of Hiroshima times every single city on earth. The end of the world. I'd rather Russia take crimea and China take Hong Kong then have the whole world go down in flames

You lack the vision of the bigger picture, the Russians won’t stop at Crimea and these motherfuckers won’t stop here. The powers that be in Europe and in Washington lack the stomach for war? Fine. But when we wake up and see that at times war is needed? Will it be too late?

They've been warning us since the cold war that Russia would keep taking over more of europe.

It's funny cause not only did it not happen, but Russia lost control over many places such as east germany. I highly doubt putin is gonna keep taking over Europe and I highly doubt China will expand farther afield either considering they never have anytime in history. I'm not willing to see mushroom clouds rise over our major cities just because China went into an island they technically control and we decided war was the answer

[The New California Republic]

Get into a war with china and bring about the events of the film Threads?

Just as an aside, that film has serious errors in it.

[Rojava Free State]

First off Hong Kong is technically part of China so it's kinda already theirs. Second off its gonna lose any autonomy it still has in 2047 anyhow so it's a lost cause. Third, what is your alternative? Get into a war with china and bring about the events of the film Threads?

Ironically your reasoning is almost the same as CCP's.

Alternatives? I have one. Deal with CCP leaders decisively. Xi, Kim, Putin etc..need to go...I mean..to hell.

And how do you suppose we can deal with them decisively? "Leave Hong Kong alone or we'll put every man woman and child on earth in danger"?

[Rojava Free State]

Get into a war with china and bring about the events of the film Threads?

Just as an aside, that film has serious errors in it.

Pretty sure we can all agree a nuclear war would be a catastrophe for mankind. May not go down exactly as in threads but we know from Hiroshima and Nagasaki that nukes are horrific weapons

[Neko-koku]

Ironically your reasoning is almost the same as CCP's.

Alternatives? I have one. Deal with CCP leaders decisively. Xi, Kim, Putin etc..need to go...I mean..to hell.

And how do you suppose we can deal with them decisively? "Leave Hong Kong alone or we'll put every man woman and child on earth in danger"?

Is it kosher to advocate for pulling off assassination of tyrants here? Xi and Kim are sociopaths. They won't change.