Hong Kong

[Othelos]

It promised otherwise.

I would not be surprised if China honors the letter, if not the spirit of their agreements.

Considering that this is a clear example of the opposite, that's an interesting opinion.

[Othelos]

China have stated they will not tolerate any discussions of HK at the G20.

Over HK$5 million has been raised through a crowdfunding campaign to place front-page newspaper ads in international newspapers urging readers to pressure G20 leaders to act over the city’s extradition law crisis. The fundraiser achieved its original HK$3m goal within hours on Tuesday, as over 20,000 donors made contributions.

The organiser of the campaign said a frontpage space has already been booked with the Financial Times this Thursday, ahead of Friday’s G20 summit in Osaka, Japan. However, Beijing has said that it will not allow discussion of the Hong Kong issue during the meeting.

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We should tell the PRC to fuck off, and talk about what we want to.

Agreed. It's really overstepping its bounds if it thinks it can suppress international dissent.

[Galloism]

The Philippines always accepts hard workers!

I did have the idea of opening a scuba resort on Bohol.

You might like Texas.

A couple of years ago I was visiting some friends in Florida and I discovered Miami.. I could consider that, the problem with Texas is I really like living by the sea. I could probably visit Houston and see what it's like.

Ok, no memes, Miami is not a place you want to live. When we used to have state police conventions, Miami officers were popular because they had stories you could hardly believe.

If you must deal with Florida man, at least do west palm beach or Daytona area. Gainesville, Titusville, even Sarasota is better than Miami.

Also people in Miami drive like they’re blind and driving based on advice from someone that doesn’t speak the same language.

[Bombadil]

Full text of the ad to be placed in media in key G20 countries..

Dear New York Times Readers,

We are a group of concerned citizens who have been among the two million protesters marching on the streets of Hong Kong. This is our sincere plea for your help to defend our sovereignty and freedoms. Here is why you should care.

In 2019, the Hong Kong SAR Government proposed a bill that would allow the extradition of alleged “fugitives” from Hong Kong to China, a country that is notorious for its disrespect for the rule of law. The judicial system in China has a conviction rate of 99.9%, and prisoners are known to have suffered from severe violations of human rights.

Bankers, businessmen, tourists, and even ordinary Hongkongers could be arrested and sent to China for trials of alleged crimes and fabricated accusations. Hong Kong will cease to be a free economic zone, which has long served the world’s most prominent businesses.

This is why two million of us took to the streets. We were unarmed. We had only helmets, umbrellas and plastic wrap. In return, the police suppressed us by unleashing 150 tear gas canisters shot in close range, aiming batons at our heads, and firing rubber bullets and bean bag rounds. Numerous peaceful protesters were unjustifiably arrested, interrogated, and stigmatized as “rioters".

Hong Kong’s Chief Executive Carrie Lam has announced a suspension of the Extradition Bill which is NOT equivalent to withdrawal. We urge our government to agree to our three demands:

1. To completely withdraw the Extradition Bill.
2. To release all the arrested unconditionally and undertake not to prosecute any of the protestors.
3. To appoint an independent commission of inquiry to look into incidents of police brutality.

In view of the upcoming G20 summit and the meeting between Trump and Xi, we implore you to deliver our concerns and demands to your governments. We urge you to stand with us in preserving Hong Kong’s freedom and autonomy under Chinese rule.

Thank you.

Yours truly,
Hongkongers

[Ethel mermania]

I would not be surprised if China honors the letter, if not the spirit of their agreements.

Considering that this is a clear example of the opposite, that's an interesting opinion.

How so? They are following the rule of law in putting the bill forward. They have not just unilaterally implemented it.

[Tuthina]

No more protests given Lam's decision to junk the extradition bill for now? That's good, if not quite prescient of the protesters.

There are still protests (or rather, you can say that it never really ended fully), although not to the scale of the 2 million march before. There are still contentious points from the government as a whole that keeps many protesters from being satisfied. Regarding the bill itself, the terms used by the government (including the Department of Justice, no less) implied that the bill is merely shelved, but can technically be resumed by scheduling the second reading in the legislature (which was the stage it was in before the protests exploded), while many protesters demand that it be pulled entirely, which would require the legislative process to start from the beginning if it were to be proposed again.

Beyond the bill itself and arguably more importantly, many protesters also demand that the government, in particular the police force to answer for the perceived brutality against protesters, as well as potential violation of civil rights and privacy (such as a rather high-profile case of them possibly having access to medical records of hospital emergency room, which is used to arrest protesters before they were discharged), of which the police does not seem to be interested to address for now.

[Bombadil]

Nike has to withdraw a co-branded pair of sneakers after the brand partner posts an image supporting HK on Instagram.

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Essentially you have global brands self-censoring individual views.

[Rojava Free State]

Nike has to withdraw a co-branded pair of sneakers after the brand partner posts an image supporting HK on Instagram.

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Essentially you have global brands self-censoring individual views.

But hey, at least nike supports the black football man in his struggle against racism and the Orange dude

[Bombadil]

Nike has to withdraw a co-branded pair of sneakers after the brand partner posts an image supporting HK on Instagram.

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Essentially you have global brands self-censoring individual views.

But hey, at least nike supports the black football man in his struggle against racism and the Orange dude

Yes, it is kind of a double standard in that they wanted to be lauded for their progressive values while technically punishing free speech.. burn them all.

[Othelos]

Nike has to withdraw a co-branded pair of sneakers after the brand partner posts an image supporting HK on Instagram.

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Essentially you have global brands self-censoring individual views.

That’s pretty disturbing, not gonna lie. Love how PRC censorship is threatening economic freedom, as well.

[Othelos]

Considering that this is a clear example of the opposite, that's an interesting opinion.

How so? They are following the rule of law in putting the bill forward. They have not just unilaterally implemented it.

I was talking about the 50 year agreement, not the bill in Hong Kong

[Infected Mushroom]

Nike has to withdraw a co-branded pair of sneakers after the brand partner posts an image supporting HK on Instagram.

Link

Essentially you have global brands self-censoring individual views.

I’m unitinically wearing Nike shoes at a restaurant right now

[Tuthina]

How so? They are following the rule of law in putting the bill forward. They have not just unilaterally implemented it.

I was talking about the 50 year agreement, not the bill in Hong Kong

In that case it's more a legal loophole than direct violation, not that it really helps PRC's image.

[Ethel mermania]

How so? They are following the rule of law in putting the bill forward. They have not just unilaterally implemented it.

I was talking about the 50 year agreement, not the bill in Hong Kong

How are they not following the letter, if not the spirit of the agreement? At the end of the period they can do what they want with Hong kong, and if what was posted in this 5hread is true, the SAR is going to be dissolved. They will not need a extradition bill, they can just go and directly arrest who ever they want.

[Novus America]

Nike has to withdraw a co-branded pair of sneakers after the brand partner posts an image supporting HK on Instagram.

Link

Essentially you have global brands self-censoring individual views.

That’s pretty disturbing, not gonna lie. Love how PRC censorship is threatening economic freedom, as well.

Yes, the PRC will use its control of our corporations to crush freedom everywhere. Hong Kong is only the beginning.

We need to beginning rapidly phasing out our trade and business relations with the PRC or freedom will die. Worldwide.

[New Bremerton]

But hey, at least nike supports the black football man in his struggle against racism and the Orange dude

Yes, it is kind of a double standard in that they wanted to be lauded for their progressive values while technically punishing free speech.. burn them all.

This is what I call cucking for fascists abroad while pretending to be against fascism at home simply to line their very deep pockets. Sanctions and tariffs will go a very long way toward toppling the increasingly totalitarian Communist fascist regime and holding Western multinationals to account for their shameless hypocrisy.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Nike has to withdraw a co-branded pair of sneakers after the brand partner posts an image supporting HK on Instagram.

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Essentially you have global brands self-censoring individual views.

That’s pretty disturbing, not gonna lie. Love how PRC censorship is threatening economic freedom, as well.

It's not. Nike can easily take the moral side and oppose the PRC.

Yes, it is kind of a double standard in that they wanted to be lauded for their progressive values while technically punishing free speech.. burn them all.

This is what I call cucking for fascists abroad while pretending to be against fascism at home simply to line their very deep pockets. Sanctions and tariffs will go a very long way toward toppling the increasingly totalitarian Communist fascist regime and holding Western multinationals to account for their shameless hypocrisy.

China isn't communist

[New Bremerton]

This is what I call cucking for fascists abroad while pretending to be against fascism at home simply to line their very deep pockets. Sanctions and tariffs will go a very long way toward toppling the increasingly totalitarian Communist fascist regime and holding Western multinationals to account for their shameless hypocrisy.

China isn't communist

Right. China stopped being communist in 1978 and is now just Communist with a big C. Racist, fascist and imperialist would be more accurate terms to describe China nowadays.

[Othelos]

That’s pretty disturbing, not gonna lie. Love how PRC censorship is threatening economic freedom, as well.

It's not. Nike can easily take the moral side and oppose the PRC.

And risk losing the chinese market? Unlikely.

[Othelos]

That’s pretty disturbing, not gonna lie. Love how PRC censorship is threatening economic freedom, as well.

Yes, the PRC will use its control of our corporations to crush freedom everywhere. Hong Kong is only the beginning.

We need to beginning rapidly phasing out our trade and business relations with the PRC or freedom will die. Worldwide.

I agree 100%, they are already busy using their investments for political gain, including in the EU.

[Othelos]

I was talking about the 50 year agreement, not the bill in Hong Kong

How are they not following the letter, if not the spirit of the agreement? At the end of the period they can do what they want with Hong kong, and if what was posted in this 5hread is true, the SAR is going to be dissolved. They will not need a extradition bill, they can just go and directly arrest who ever they want.

They agreed that Hong Kong’s legal framework would remain separate until 2047. How is dismantling that following the “letter/spirit of the agreement”?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

It's not. Nike can easily take the moral side and oppose the PRC.

And risk losing the chinese market? Unlikely.

Morals > Money

[Bombadil]

I can't find a list but full page ads have been taken out today across most G20 media, from NYT to FT to The Australian and etc. All crowdfunded within a couple of hours. For a leadership-less protest the organisation has been pretty stellar.

[Othelos]

double post

[Othelos]

I can't find a list but full page ads have been taken out today across most G20 media, from NYT to FT to The Australian and etc. All crowdfunded within a couple of hours. For a leadership-less protest the organisation has been pretty stellar.

Excellent! I hope they succeed in bringing up the extradition bill at the G-20 summit.