Was German Reunification a Mistake?

[The Blaatschapen]

I'm down with unifying all of the Germanic countries, because let's be obvious, one Germanic group would come to dominate it.

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Island Germans and their spawn

[Nakena]

I'm down with unifying all of the Germanic countries, because let's be obvious, one Germanic group would come to dominate it.

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I support this.

[Kvatchdom]

I'm down with unifying all of the Germanic countries, because let's be obvious, one Germanic group would come to dominate it.

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Please God we don't need any more anglos

[Coffin-Breathe]

The east/west division of Germany was a totally inorganic division of the country that should have never happened. WW2 should have never happened. If the allies in WW1 would have just followed standard postwar protocol in dealing with Germany it probably would have worked fine

WW2 shouldn't have happened but the Germans started it.

Some could argue, thar wwII and even Mr. Schicklgruber (or someone similar to him) was inevitable and somehow programmed after the treaty of Versailles and the way how France and Great Britain treated Germany in the years following wwI.

[Kvatchdom]

WW2 shouldn't have happened but the Germans started it.

Some could argue, thar wwII and even Mr. Schicklgruber (or someone similar to him) was inevitable and somehow programmed after the treaty of Versailles and the way how France and Great Britain treated Germany in the years following wwI.

They should've been tougher then.

[Coffin-Breathe]

Some could argue, thar wwII and even Mr. Schicklgruber (or someone similar to him) was inevitable and somehow programmed after the treaty of Versailles and the way how France and Great Britain treated Germany in the years following wwI.

They should've been tougher then.

You should be happy that "they weren´t tougher", otherwise you would eventually been ruled by some "Friedrich Wilhelm IV"...

[Kvatchdom]

They should've been tougher then.

You should be happy that "they weren´t tougher", otherwise you would eventually been ruled by some "Friedrich Wilhelm IV"...

Unlikely. Just split the country into such small states it's no longer viable. Or give half of it to France, that should be good. In it's short history Germany has been nothing but a nuisance to the world around it.

[Coffin-Breathe]

Unlikely. Just split the country into such small states it's no longer viable. Or give half of it to France, that should be good. In it's short history Germany has been nothing but a nuisance to the world around it.

I´d say, Germany (including the "Third Reich") can´t even halfways be compared to, let´s say, the US of A or the USSR "nuisancewise to the world around in it´s short history".

[Coffin-Breathe]

...not to forget the British Empire, Colonial France and many other nations (while they have maybe a much longer history, though)...

[Kvatchdom]

Unlikely. Just split the country into such small states it's no longer viable. Or give half of it to France, that should be good. In it's short history Germany has been nothing but a nuisance to the world around it.

I´d say, Germany (including the "Third Reich") can´t even halfways be compared to, let´s say, the US of A or the USSR "nuisancewise to the world around in it´s short history".

Yeah it very well can. No matter how horrid the latter two might've been, just look at what happens whenever there's instability in Europe and Germany exists. Though, the US disbanding would be fun too.

[Eglaecia]

What are you talking about? The unified Germany was the cause of so much damage to Europe. Keeping it divided was the best option for the long-term stability of Europe and the world.

So does unified France! and let's not mention unified Great Britain.

France, up until the satanic revolution, was valuable to the world. The UK unifying was illegitimate but in the long run has also been beneficial.

[Eglaecia]

Unlikely. Just split the country into such small states it's no longer viable. Or give half of it to France, that should be good. In it's short history Germany has been nothing but a nuisance to the world around it.

I´d say, Germany (including the "Third Reich") can´t even halfways be compared to, let´s say, the US of A or the USSR "nuisancewise to the world around in it´s short history".

In 16 years (1914-1918, 1933-1945) Germany caused as much damage as the US in the last 70. A unified Germany is the greatest threat to world peace.

[Kvatchdom]

So does unified France! and let's not mention unified Great Britain.

France, up until the satanic revolution, was valuable to the world. The UK unifying was illegitimate but in the long run has also been beneficial.

What do you mean "satanic revolution"?

[Petrolheadia]

I´d say, Germany (including the "Third Reich") can´t even halfways be compared to, let´s say, the US of A or the USSR "nuisancewise to the world around in it´s short history".

In 16 years (1914-1918, 1933-1945) Germany caused as much damage as the US in the last 70. A unified Germany is the greatest threat to world peace.

And in the last 74 it had caused no damage.

[Coffin-Breathe]

However, the "reunion" was mainly a result of misleading the people of the GDR in false promises about their future in the "west", pushed by Mr. "Ehrenwort" Kohl and his bananas, and lead to the clearance sale of the industrial infrastructure by the corrupt "Treuhand" in thew interest of some big capitalists and the ruin of many facilities and companies of the former GDR. Which is, in my opinion, the main reason for most of the social and economical problems of Eastern Germany nowadays.

[The New California Republic]

However, the "reunion" was mainly a result of misleading the people of the GDR in false promises about their future in the "west", pushed by Mr. "Ehrenwort" Kohl and his bananas, and lead to the clearance sale of the industrial infrastructure by the corrupt "Treuhand" in thew interest of some big capitalists and the ruin of many facilities and companies of the former GDR. Which is, in my opinion, the main reason for most of the social and economical problems of Eastern Germany nowadays.

Indeed.

[The Great-German Empire]

Let's not judge nations in terms of the world and geopolitics. And let's also not forget that even in peacetime, competition between nations drives the world forward, with technology, diplomacy, politics etc all being pushed to their limits because of it. I wager that if there had been no "challenging power" in Europe such as Germany as well as Napoleonic France and the Swedish Empire before it, we would've been many, many years behind.

[Eglaecia]

In 16 years (1914-1918, 1933-1945) Germany caused as much damage as the US in the last 70. A unified Germany is the greatest threat to world peace.

And in the last 74 it had caused no damage.

The mere existence of Germany a unified polity is damaging.

[Petrolheadia]

And in the last 74 it had caused no damage.

The mere existence of Germany a unified polity is damaging.

To what?

[The Great-German Empire]

The mere existence of Germany a unified polity is damaging.

I fail to see how. In fact, one of the scenarios floated here (Giving half of it to France) would make France become the very thing you're trying to destroy.

[Petrolheadia]

However, the "reunion" was mainly a result of misleading the people of the GDR in false promises about their future in the "west", pushed by Mr. "Ehrenwort" Kohl and his bananas, and lead to the clearance sale of the industrial infrastructure by the corrupt "Treuhand" in thew interest of some big capitalists and the ruin of many facilities and companies of the former GDR. Which is, in my opinion, the main reason for most of the social and economical problems of Eastern Germany nowadays.

Indeed.

Yeah, it would have been much better as a communist statist economy like it was.

/sarcasm

[Eglaecia]

The mere existence of Germany a unified polity is damaging.

I fail to see how. In fact, one of the scenarios floated here (Giving half of it to France) would make France become the very thing you're trying to destroy.

I didn't want that. Balkanizing Germany is my preferred avenue.

[The Great-German Empire]

Yeah, it would have been much better as a communist statist economy like it was.

/sarcasm

I believe all they're trying to say here is that the method of privatization was somehow uncalculated and unjust. While I haven't read about the re-unification enough to know if it's true, I do know that a shabby privatization and de-Sovietization turned out to be the cause of damn near every problem Russia faces today.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Ending Communist Regimes is never a mistake.

[Coffin-Breathe]

In 16 years (1914-1918, 1933-1945) Germany caused as much damage as the US in the last 70. A unified Germany is the greatest threat to world peace.

Well, it´s a fact that, while Germany caused two wars in 31 years, and none since, the US of A caused about 200 in their existence of about 200 years. Therefore, and following your way of arguments, I´m obliged to say, that there must be a "deunification" of the US of A, because it´s clearly an even greater "threat to world peace".