Nazis disrupt Detroit gay pride parade

[Telconi]

They really weren't presenting a threat to public safety though. Hence why the whole thing was a pretty boring march and nothing more.

They were, though; the only reason they didn't become an active threat was because there would've been a clear, obvious, and immediate response in the form of the police gunning them down.

Yes, everyone not in the immediate presence of a police officer is a raging madman...

[Novus America]

We do know they are more dangerous than some basement dweling neckbeard who occasionally lurks out to troll a LGBT rally. That the fighting the real fight cannot be done from a Starbucks.
That flipping trash cans in Seattle does jack shit.

That if you actually want to fight murderous extremism join the US military or the Afghan police.

That it takes properly armed and trained professionals.
That this is not something you can do LARPING.

So you post a picture of neckbeard trolls.
Oh so scary...

Are you really saying those jokers a the greatest threat we face?
If so then we need not fear at all.

Yes we do need to keep tabs on, surveil, infiltrate extremist groups in t the US.
Arrest them if they are doing crimes (again including conspiracy and attempt).
Punish applicable crimes far more severely.

If you feel threatened buy and carry your own weapons (if your state does not limit it to only the rich). But only use them for legal self defense.

I have been over this.

Tell me what good would sucker punching trash can throwing hipsters have done here?

[Torrocca]

They were, though; the only reason they didn't become an active threat was because there would've been a clear, obvious, and immediate response in the form of the police gunning them down.

Yes, everyone not in the immediate presence of a police officer is a raging madman...

It sure is weird how the Nazis were the only ones who came along to a Pride Parade acting like they were intending to shoot LGBTQ+ people, and simply didn't because the police were there, amirite?

[Rojava Free State]

Implying if you start the war first then there won't be millions of deaths

Once again, I have to keep using this example unfortunateky, IF WE TOOK YOUR APPROACH AT THE DETROIT PRIDE FEST AND LET THE ANTIFAS ATTACK THE NAZIS, PEOPLE WOULD HAVE DIED! THE REASON NO ONE WAS KILLED IS SPECIFICALLY CAUSE VIOLENCE WAS PREVENTED! HAD WE DONE THINGS YOUR WAY THE NAZIS WOUKD HAVE OPENED FIRE AND KILLED SOMEBODY, BUT BECAUSE WE DIDNT, THEY LEFT WITHOUT INCIDENT. This is how you do this stuff the right way

Do you need to shout?

Yes I do because we have a larger than desired number of folks who still have a might makes right mentality. The temptation to attack nazis is strong among most people but from a rational perspective it's a terrible idea.

[Torrocca]

So you post a picture of neckbeard trolls.
Oh so scary...

I like how you're reducing a picture of gun-armed Neo-Nazis - who are making it clear with how they're presenting themselves that they'd shoot the people attending the Pride Parade if they could - to little more than "trolls". Real classy, that is.

[Telconi]

Yes, everyone not in the immediate presence of a police officer is a raging madman...

It sure is weird how the Nazis were the only ones who came along to a Pride Parade acting like they were intending to shoot LGBTQ+ people, and simply didn't because the police were there, amirite?

And you know this because you have proof or evidence? Or do you just pretend to know this because it fits a narrative you're trying to push.

[Novus America]

They really weren't presenting a threat to public safety though. Hence why the whole thing was a pretty boring march and nothing more.

They were, though; the only reason they didn't become an active threat was because there would've been a clear, obvious, and immediate response in the form of the police gunning them down.

Okay? Even assuming your claim is correct, it shows proper policing and sufficient police resources is what we need.

[The New California Republic]

Do you need to shout?

Yes I do because we have a larger than desired number of folks who still have a might makes right mentality. The temptation to attack nazis is strong among most people but from a rational perspective it's a terrible idea.

But shouting won't make the slightest bit of difference in terms of changing the perspectives of others.

[Diopolis]

Yet they didn't accomplish that, and the whole thing went over without incident. Seems like just letting them do their thing and look silly was a far better approach than trying to fight them.

An even better approach would've been for them to have been immediately arrested for the clear and obvious threat to public safety they were presenting.

EVERYTHING THEY WERE DOING WAS LEGAL.
I don't know how to put it clearer than that- expressing disagreement with homosexuality is legal. Using regrettable political symbolism is legal. Open carry is legal.

[Rojava Free State]

Stop ruining this with facts!

They look like shadows out of time. You see a threat and I'm not saying they can't be dangerous, but the beta levels in that group of larpers is high. They look like a bunch of losers, glorifying a past they weren't part of to make up for lives never lived

[Rojava Free State]

Yes I do because we have a larger than desired number of folks who still have a might makes right mentality. The temptation to attack nazis is strong among most people but from a rational perspective it's a terrible idea.

But shouting won't make the slightest bit of difference in terms of changing the perspectives of others.

I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that they didn't read my response and need something to catch their attention so they get the point

[Nova Cyberia]

Yet they didn't accomplish that, and the whole thing went over without incident. Seems like just letting them do their thing and look silly was a far better approach than trying to fight them.

An even better approach would've been for them to have been immediately arrested for the clear and obvious threat to public safety they were presenting.

What law were they violating?

[Novus America]

So you post a picture of neckbeard trolls.
Oh so scary...

I like how you're reducing a picture of gun-armed Neo-Nazis - who are making it clear with how they're presenting themselves that they'd shoot the people attending the Pride Parade if they could - to little more than "trolls". Real classy, that is.

Are you going to address my other points?

And anyone can carry a gun. Takes more than that to be a real threat.
I doubt they had the balls to actually start shit.

But if they did the police would have crushed them like bugs.

Which is why proper policing is the best way to deal with these bozos.

[Saiwania]

Nazism is like Communism in my view in that, because it has been tried before (and for that reason alone), it will now always be around in politics to some extent for better or worse. I don't think many people seriously want an exact carbon copy of the Third Reich to be brought back into existence, but can't people recognize that there is plenty of room for building up a newer police state that is more powerful and regimented but also simultaneously more ethical, humane, and etc. than Nazi Germany was or otherwise making tweaks to the platform and movement but staying in spirit with it to address our present day needs?

Dictatorships or authoritarian systems can often accomplish certain things that democratic systems can't. We're overlooking the possibilities a Fourth Reich can bring to Europe and the developed world. The East has a strong police state in the form of China to defend their civilization and values but its just not the case for the West, which is allowing for their own collapse and demise like the Roman Empire did. Neo-Nazism can change this, if only allowed some power to roll back liberalism and multiculturalism and all the political problems that're self inflicted that are against our inherent self interests.

[Novus America]

That guy looks kinda brown for a nazi no?

Also he looks like Shrek's less clever little brother.

I love the big bad ass cop looking down on them with total contempt.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Nazism is like Communism in my view in that, because it has been tried before (and for that reason alone), it will now always be around in politics to some extent for better or worse. I don't think many people seriously want an exact carbon copy of the Third Reich to be brought back into existence, but can't people recognize that there is plenty of room for building up a newer police state that is more powerful and regimented but also simultaneously more ethical, humane, and etc. than Nazi Germany was or otherwise making tweaks to the platform and movement but staying in spirit with it?

Dictatorships or authoritarian systems can often accomplish certain things that democratic systems can't. We're overlooking the possibilities a Fourth Reich can bring to Europe and the developed world. The East has a strong police state in the form of China to defend their civilization and values but its just not the case for the West, which is allowing for their own collapse and demise like the Roman Empire did. Neo-Nazism can change this, if only allowed some power to roll back liberalism and multiculturalism and all the political problems that're self inflicted that are against our interests.

If you uttered this in front of me I would consider you a dire threat to my whole existence.

[The New California Republic]

We're overlooking the possibilities a Fourth Reich can bring to Europe and the developed world.

Fuck that noise. We aren't having a sequel of the Holocaust.

[Arcturus Novus]

Nazism is like Communism in my view in that, because it has been tried before (and for that reason alone), it will now always be around in politics to some extent for better or worse. I don't think many people seriously want an exact carbon copy of the Third Reich to be brought back into existence, but can't people recognize that there is plenty of room for building up a newer police state that is more powerful and regimented but also simultaneously more ethical, humane, and etc. than Nazi Germany was or otherwise making tweaks to the platform and movement but staying in spirit with it to address our present day needs?

Dictatorships or authoritarian systems can often accomplish certain things that democratic systems can't. We're overlooking the possibilities a Fourth Reich can bring to Europe and the developed world. The East has a strong police state in the form of China to defend their civilization and values but its just not the case for the West, which is allowing for their own collapse and demise like the Roman Empire did. Neo-Nazism can change this, if only allowed some power to roll back liberalism and multiculturalism and all the political problems that're self inflicted that are against our inherent self interests.

Hi, what the fuck?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Nazism is like Communism in my view in that, because it has been tried before (and for that reason alone), it will now always be around in politics to some extent for better or worse. I don't think many people seriously want an exact carbon copy of the Third Reich to be brought back into existence, but can't people recognize that there is plenty of room for building up a newer police state that is more powerful and regimented but also simultaneously more ethical, humane, and etc. than Nazi Germany was or otherwise making tweaks to the platform and movement but staying in spirit with it?

Dictatorships or authoritarian systems can often accomplish certain things that democratic systems can't. We're overlooking the possibilities a Fourth Reich can bring to Europe and the developed world. The East has a strong police state in the form of China to defend their civilization and values but its just not the case for the West, which is allowing for their own collapse and demise like the Roman Empire did. Neo-Nazism can change this, if only allowed some power to roll back liberalism and multiculturalism and all the political problems that're self inflicted that are against our interests.

If you uttered this in front of me I would consider you a dire threat to my whole existence.

Saiwania is a self admitted NEET who does little more than watch anime and post random shit online. He's not a threat to anything.

[The New California Republic]

If you uttered this in front of me I would consider you a dire threat to my whole existence.

Saiwania is a self admitted NEET who does little more than watch anime and post random shit online. He's not a threat to anything.

[Cappuccina]

Nazism is like Communism in my view in that, because it has been tried before (and for that reason alone), it will now always be around in politics to some extent for better or worse. I don't think many people seriously want an exact carbon copy of the Third Reich to be brought back into existence, but can't people recognize that there is plenty of room for building up a newer police state that is more powerful and regimented but also simultaneously more ethical, humane, and etc. than Nazi Germany was or otherwise making tweaks to the platform and movement but staying in spirit with it to address our present day needs?

Dictatorships or authoritarian systems can often accomplish certain things that democratic systems can't. We're overlooking the possibilities a Fourth Reich can bring to Europe and the developed world. The East has a strong police state in the form of China to defend their civilization and values but its just not the case for the West, which is allowing for their own collapse and demise like the Roman Empire did. Neo-Nazism can change this, if only allowed some power to roll back liberalism and multiculturalism and all the political problems that're self inflicted that are against our inherent self interests.

Not totally disagreeable from my viewpoint, but expecting anyone who idolizes Nazism to be ethical has far greater faith in humanity than myself.

[Novus America]

An even better approach would've been for them to have been immediately arrested for the clear and obvious threat to public safety they were presenting.

What law were they violating?

But see one of them has a gun! A gun I tell you!

So we must shriek in terror because a troll can hold a gun (despite still looking like a completely worthless troll, probably because he still is).

Or we could umm actually do what we did.
Keep a heavy police presence but not arrest people who are not breaking the law.

[Telconi]

Nazism is like Communism in my view in that, because it has been tried before (and for that reason alone), it will now always be around in politics to some extent for better or worse. I don't think many people seriously want an exact carbon copy of the Third Reich to be brought back into existence, but can't people recognize that there is plenty of room for building up a newer police state that is more powerful and regimented but also simultaneously more ethical, humane, and etc. than Nazi Germany was or otherwise making tweaks to the platform and movement but staying in spirit with it?

Dictatorships or authoritarian systems can often accomplish certain things that democratic systems can't. We're overlooking the possibilities a Fourth Reich can bring to Europe and the developed world. The East has a strong police state in the form of China to defend their civilization and values but its just not the case for the West, which is allowing for their own collapse and demise like the Roman Empire did. Neo-Nazism can change this, if only allowed some power to roll back liberalism and multiculturalism and all the political problems that're self inflicted that are against our interests.

If you uttered this in front of me I would consider you a dire threat to my whole existence.

I mean, I feel that about a lot of your posts so...

[Torrocca]

It sure is weird how the Nazis were the only ones who came along to a Pride Parade acting like they were intending to shoot LGBTQ+ people, and simply didn't because the police were there, amirite?

And you know this because you have proof or evidence? Or do you just pretend to know this because it fits a narrative you're trying to push.

Context clues, Tel. Context clues. Explain why else Neo-Nazis (who, by the by, are notoriously homophobic, transphobic, and just fervently anti-LGBTQ+ in general) would show up to a Pride Parade brandishing rifles?

They were, though; the only reason they didn't become an active threat was because there would've been a clear, obvious, and immediate response in the form of the police gunning them down.

Okay? Even assuming your claim is correct, it shows proper policing and sufficient police resources is what we need.

... Okay? And?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

If you uttered this in front of me I would consider you a dire threat to my whole existence.

I mean, I feel that about a lot of your posts so...

Were I ever threatening to have you deported or gassed due to your ethnicity?