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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:48 am

Torrocca wrote:
Nilrahrarfan wrote:Some of them might not be taking it seriously, so calm down.


And I'm sure some Nazis weren't taking things so seriously while they were hauling millions of people off to extermination camps.

That was just a troll.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:48 am

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Why the fuck must I read your post while drinking soda?! It came out my nose. Jeebus.

I shouldn’t laugh about it but I couldn’t help it.


Maybe I should start posting content warnings on my overly-sarcastic posts :P


My mind went to the Seven Dwarves, in SS uniforms, singing “Hi Ho!” as the haul off Jews to Bergen-Belsen after reading your post. Dark but damn, the way you put it is hilarious. I mean, make fun of Nazis often. They deserve it. :lol2:
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Postby Novus America » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:48 am

Nakena wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Ditto 21st century authoritarian communism and socialism.

Still, not much to worry about. Both ideologies are extremely unpalatable and mocked by normal folks. The fear of either catching on like they did in the 20th century is greatly misplaced.


The normies and the mass always follow the political zeitgeist. Last week they followed Bush in two Wars, yesterday to Obamas Change and today to Trump's making America Great Again. Perhaps tomorrow they follow to Bernie Sanders "socialist" ideas.

Even more so if they prove sucessfull to some degree.


Oh people very well will follow a stupid ideology to a bad outcome.
But it will be a different stupid ideology with different stupid ideas and symbols.

I guarantee it will not come from these 15 silly looking trolls.
That they will not be the next big thing.
The the original Nazis managed to look good and had good aesthetics.

These guys look like a pile of shit.
The original Nazis were a pile of shit. But looked good.

These guys are a pile of shit but do not even do a good job hiding it.
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Postby Nakena » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:50 am

Novus America wrote:
Nakena wrote:
The normies and the mass always follow the political zeitgeist. Last week they followed Bush in two Wars, yesterday to Obamas Change and today to Trump's making America Great Again. Perhaps tomorrow they follow to Bernie Sanders "socialist" ideas.

Even more so if they prove sucessfull to some degree.


Oh people very well will follow a stupid ideology to a bad outcome.
But it will be a different stupid ideology with different stupid ideas and symbols.

I guarantee it will not come from these 15 silly looking trolls.
That the will not be the next big thing.


I agree. They're a dead end, a ugly relic of the past.

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Postby Scomagia » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:50 am

Nakena wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Ditto 21st century authoritarian communism and socialism.

Still, not much to worry about. Both ideologies are extremely unpalatable and mocked by normal folks. The fear of either catching on like they did in the 20th century is greatly misplaced.


The normies and the mass always follow the political zeitgeist. Last week they followed Bush in two Wars, yesterday to Obamas Change and today to Trump's making America Great Again. Perhaps tomorrow they follow to Bernie Sanders "socialist" ideas.

Even more so if they prove sucessfull to some degree.

Not really. The era from Bush to Trump is simply a continuation of the norms of our society. None of these three guys were actually that different, despite the noises the made with their faces.

Communism and Fascism are very definitely outside the norms.
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Postby The South Falls » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:19 pm

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The South Falls wrote:This is the whole "I wouldn't be a genocidal maniac if that art school had taken me in" spiel. It's your choice to be what you want to be. It's not the left's decision to make. Don't make it look like you had no choice. You had every choice.

Yeah, and Fascism just so happened to be right for me. I need allies, and my fear is that 90% of the left is SO BAD that I HAD to go Far-Right just to balance it out.

And I had to kill your mom because your dad is soooo terrible. I had to even the score. That defense is not taken in a court of law, and it doesn't make sense. Neither does yours.
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Postby The South Falls » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:20 pm

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North German Realm wrote:Actually, the rich and their corporations would be my second target, right after fascists.

OK, now I know what you want.

You want a cowardly Pro-Separatist-from-your-own-nation dictatorship straight out of Idiocracy under the control of Communsts that will try to behead everyone that merely STARTS A BUSINESS, while also beheading anyone that questions this.

Sounds like you want a communist version of Saudi Arabia!

The amount that you've drawn out of 1 sentence is amazing and misguided.
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Postby Scomagia » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:25 pm

Nilrahrarfan wrote:
The South Falls wrote:This is the whole "I wouldn't be a genocidal maniac if that art school had taken me in" spiel. It's your choice to be what you want to be. It's not the left's decision to make. Don't make it look like you had no choice. You had every choice.

Yeah, and Fascism just so happened to be right for me. I need allies, and my fear is that 90% of the left is SO BAD that I HAD to go Far-Right just to balance it out.

That's just stupid. The answer to douchery is not to adopted the douchery of the other side.
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Postby The South Falls » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:32 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Nilrahrarfan wrote:Yeah, and Fascism just so happened to be right for me. I need allies, and my fear is that 90% of the left is SO BAD that I HAD to go Far-Right just to balance it out.

That's just stupid. The answer to douchery is not to adopted the douchery of the other side.

The left hit some dude with a bikelock? Lemme find someone to shoot.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:34 pm

Nilrahrarfan wrote:Yeah, and Fascism just so happened to be right for me. I need allies, and my fear is that 90% of the left is SO BAD that I HAD to go Far-Right just to balance it out.

That is by far the strangest and most downright hilarious reasoning for becoming fascist that I have ever heard...
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:40 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Nilrahrarfan wrote:Yeah, and Fascism just so happened to be right for me. I need allies, and my fear is that 90% of the left is SO BAD that I HAD to go Far-Right just to balance it out.

That is by far the strangest and most downright hilarious reasoning for becoming fascist that I have ever heard...

Its one of the stupidest reasons for picking an ideology ive read in ages.
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Postby Torrocca » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:43 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Scomagia wrote:That's just stupid. The answer to douchery is not to adopted the douchery of the other side.

The left hit some dude with a bikelock? Lemme find someone to shoot.


It is pretty hilarious how a lot of right-wingers can't think of anything beyond a single bikelock incident from two years ago to scream at AntiFA about, tbqh.
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Postby Necroghastia » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:44 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Nilrahrarfan wrote:Yeah, and Fascism just so happened to be right for me. I need allies, and my fear is that 90% of the left is SO BAD that I HAD to go Far-Right just to balance it out.

That is by far the strangest and most downright hilarious reasoning for becoming fascist that I have ever heard...


Those leftists are so scary, they get along with gays and Jewish people instead of wanting to kill them like an icky bug!
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Postby Scomagia » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:46 pm

Torrocca wrote:
The South Falls wrote:The left hit some dude with a bikelock? Lemme find someone to shoot.


It is pretty hilarious how a lot of right-wingers can't think of anything beyond a single bikelock incident from two years ago to scream at AntiFA about, tbqh.

It's hilarious how you think right-wingers are the primary critics of Antifa. A pretty broad spectrum of people find them to be shitheads.
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Postby Nilrahrarfan » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:49 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:That is by far the strangest and most downright hilarious reasoning for becoming fascist that I have ever heard...


Those leftists are so scary, they get along with gays and Jewish people instead of wanting to kill them like an icky bug!

I have nothing against them, I was just saying that I trust nobody, so I picked Fascism. Also, Italian Fascism is not like Nazism. I'm an Italian Fascist.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:52 pm

Nilrahrarfan wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:
Those leftists are so scary, they get along with gays and Jewish people instead of wanting to kill them like an icky bug!

I have nothing against them, I was just saying that I trust nobody, so I picked Fascism. Also, Italian Fascism is not like Nazism. I'm an Italian Fascist.

Italian fascism also focused on race, and Mussolini spoke of Italians being the Mediterranean side of the Aryan race and they also discriminated against jews.

Italian racial laws of 1938 for example barred Jews from the armed forces, civil service, interfaith marriages and limiting what properties they could own.
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Postby Nilrahrarfan » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:53 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Nilrahrarfan wrote:I have nothing against them, I was just saying that I trust nobody, so I picked Fascism. Also, Italian Fascism is not like Nazism. I'm an Italian Fascist.

Italian fascism also focused on race, and Mussolini spoke of Italians being the Mediterranean side of the Aryan race and they also discriminated against jews.

Italian racial laws of 1938 for example barred Jews from the armed forces, civil service, interfaith marriages and limiting what properties they could own.

Well, then, I'm an Integralist. That's still Fascism.
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Postby Necroghastia » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:54 pm

Nilrahrarfan wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:
Those leftists are so scary, they get along with gays and Jewish people instead of wanting to kill them like an icky bug!

I have nothing against them, I was just saying that I trust nobody, so I picked Fascism. Also, Italian Fascism is not like Nazism. I'm an Italian Fascist.


Nilrahrarfan wrote:Yeah, and Fascism just so happened to be right for me. I need allies, and my fear is that 90% of the left is SO BAD that I HAD to go Far-Right just to balance it out.


Nilrahrarfan wrote:I trust nobody


Nilrahrarfan wrote:I need allies


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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:54 pm

Nilrahrarfan wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:
Those leftists are so scary, they get along with gays and Jewish people instead of wanting to kill them like an icky bug!

I have nothing against them, I was just saying that I trust nobody, so I picked Fascism. Also, Italian Fascism is not like Nazism. I'm an Italian Fascist.

Alternatively, you're a fascist because you like fascism and agree with fascists and all this shit about "I had to be a fascist because the left" is just lies to try and excuse adhering to an ideology that you know that everyone hates.
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Postby Nilrahrarfan » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:55 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Nilrahrarfan wrote:I have nothing against them, I was just saying that I trust nobody, so I picked Fascism. Also, Italian Fascism is not like Nazism. I'm an Italian Fascist.


Nilrahrarfan wrote:Yeah, and Fascism just so happened to be right for me. I need allies, and my fear is that 90% of the left is SO BAD that I HAD to go Far-Right just to balance it out.


Nilrahrarfan wrote:I trust nobody


Nilrahrarfan wrote:I need allies


?????????????????????

I dont't trust anyone on here, I mean. I need allies, but you are not right. Let me be fascist, and don't try to ban Fascism.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:56 pm

Nilrahrarfan wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Italian fascism also focused on race, and Mussolini spoke of Italians being the Mediterranean side of the Aryan race and they also discriminated against jews.

Italian racial laws of 1938 for example barred Jews from the armed forces, civil service, interfaith marriages and limiting what properties they could own.

Well, then, I'm an Integralist. That's still Fascism.


You can't just change ideologies in a single post lol, have you even read any Integralist literature?
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:56 pm

Nilrahrarfan wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:
Those leftists are so scary, they get along with gays and Jewish people instead of wanting to kill them like an icky bug!

I have nothing against them [...]

Huh? You literally just said this:

Nilrahrarfan wrote:[...] my fear is that 90% of the left is SO BAD that I HAD to go Far-Right just to balance it out.

That doesn't sound like you have "nothing against them"... :eyebrow:
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Postby North German Realm » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:56 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Nilrahrarfan wrote:I have nothing against them, I was just saying that I trust nobody, so I picked Fascism. Also, Italian Fascism is not like Nazism. I'm an Italian Fascist.


Nilrahrarfan wrote:Yeah, and Fascism just so happened to be right for me. I need allies, and my fear is that 90% of the left is SO BAD that I HAD to go Far-Right just to balance it out.


Nilrahrarfan wrote:I trust nobody


Nilrahrarfan wrote:I need allies


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Postby Nilrahrarfan » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:57 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Nilrahrarfan wrote:I have nothing against them [...]

Huh? You literally just said this:

Nilrahrarfan wrote:[...] my fear is that 90% of the left is SO BAD that I HAD to go Far-Right just to balance it out.

That doesn't sound like you have "nothing against them"... :eyebrow:

I meant that their ethnicity and sexuality aren't a major problem, but the ideology of leftism is.
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