Nazis disrupt Detroit gay pride parade

[Nova Cyberia]

What law were they violating?

But see one of them has a gun! A gun I tell you!

So we must shriek in terror because a troll can hold a gun (despite still looking like a completely worthless troll, probably because he still is).

Or we could umm actually do what we did.
Keep a heavy police presence but not arrest people who are not breaking the law.

It's funny when you realize that Torra wants them arrested despite not actually breaking any laws.

Sounds pretty authoritarian, tbqh.

[Telconi]

And you know this because you have proof or evidence? Or do you just pretend to know this because it fits a narrative you're trying to push.

Context clues, Tel. Context clues. Explain why else Neo-Nazis (who, by the by, are notoriously homophobic, transphobic, and just fervently anti-LGBTQ+ in general) would show up to a Pride Parade brandishing rifles?

Okay? Even assuming your claim is correct, it shows proper policing and sufficient police resources is what we need.

... Okay? And?

Because they're assholes.

[Novus America]

We're overlooking the possibilities a Fourth Reich can bring to Europe and the developed world.

Fuck that noise. We aren't having a sequel of the Holocaust.

Exactly. We need people like Ike.
Not Nazi BS.

We beat the Nazis without being Nazis.
We won the first Cold War without being Nazis.
And we can win the new Cold War. But NOT by being Nazis.

[Nova Cyberia]

If you uttered this in front of me I would consider you a dire threat to my whole existence.

Saiwania is a self admitted NEET who does little more than watch anime and post random shit online. He's not a threat to anything.

He admitted to being a NEET? lmao

[Torrocca]

Context clues, Tel. Context clues. Explain why else Neo-Nazis (who, by the by, are notoriously homophobic, transphobic, and just fervently anti-LGBTQ+ in general) would show up to a Pride Parade brandishing rifles?



... Okay? And?

Because they're assholes.

Assholes who want to (and have, in plenty of cases) kill(ed) LGBTQ+ people, among others.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

But see one of them has a gun! A gun I tell you!

So we must shriek in terror because a troll can hold a gun (despite still looking like a completely worthless troll, probably because he still is).

Or we could umm actually do what we did.
Keep a heavy police presence but not arrest people who are not breaking the law.

It's funny when you realize that Torra wants them arrested despite not actually breaking any laws.

Sounds pretty authoritarian, tbqh.

You know if an armed band of Nazis with assault rifles barged into the street we would call it an insurrection...
Apparently not in America though

[Torrocca]

It's funny when you realize that Torra wants them arrested despite not actually breaking any laws.

Sounds pretty authoritarian, tbqh.

You know if an armed band of Nazis with assault rifles barged into the street we would call it an insurrection...
Apparently not in America though

B-B-But it's perfectly okay to let Nazis threaten, intimidate, and terrorize people so long as they do it LeGaLLy!!1!

[Cappuccina]

It's funny when you realize that Torra wants them arrested despite not actually breaking any laws.

Sounds pretty authoritarian, tbqh.

You know if an armed band of Nazis with assault rifles barged into the street we would call it an insurrection...
Apparently not in America though

Where are they doing this exactly?

[Telconi]

Because they're assholes.

Assholes who want to (and have, in plenty of cases) kill(ed) LGBTQ+ people, among others.

ITT person with horrifyingly terrible political beliefs is mad at others for having horrifyingly terrible political beliefs.

[Novus America]

And you know this because you have proof or evidence? Or do you just pretend to know this because it fits a narrative you're trying to push.

Context clues, Tel. Context clues. Explain why else Neo-Nazis (who, by the by, are notoriously homophobic, transphobic, and just fervently anti-LGBTQ+ in general) would show up to a Pride Parade brandishing rifles?

Okay? Even assuming your claim is correct, it shows proper policing and sufficient police resources is what we need.

... Okay? And?

Yes. They obviously wanted to look scary.
They failed, but yes looking scary was their objective.

And?
And proper policing, not trash can throwing hipsters is how we deal with these bastards.

[The New California Republic]

You know if an armed band of Nazis with assault rifles barged into the street we would call it an insurrection...
Apparently not in America though

Where are they doing this exactly?

At Detroit Pride...

[Necroghastia]

You know if an armed band of Nazis with assault rifles barged into the street we would call it an insurrection...
Apparently not in America though

B-B-But it's perfectly okay to let Nazis threaten, intimidate, and terrorize people so long as they do it LeGaLLy!!1!

Wanting to create another Charlottesville incident is perfectly legal and definitely not incitement to violence or conspiracy to commit murder, obviously.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

You know if an armed band of Nazis with assault rifles barged into the street we would call it an insurrection...
Apparently not in America though

Where are they doing this exactly?

It's curious really...
Would you feel extremely uncomfortable if a band of armed thugs with assault rifles made camp outside your house, knowing that their only objective is to have you killed? I would.

[Novus America]

Because they're assholes.

Assholes who want to (and have, in plenty of cases) kill(ed) LGBTQ+ people, among others.

Wanting to do something is not a crime. We do not have though police.
And if they commit a crime toss them in jail for life. Or hang them after a fair trial.

[Cappuccina]

Where are they doing this exactly?

At Detroit Pride...

I mean any people that are doing that should definitely be arrested, regardless of their political stance.

[Telconi]

Where are they doing this exactly?

It's curious really...
Would you feel extremely uncomfortable if a band of armed thugs with assault rifles made camp outside your house, knowing that their only objective is to have you killed? I would.

I don't think anyone is saying they wouldn't.

[Torrocca]

Assholes who want to (and have, in plenty of cases) kill(ed) LGBTQ+ people, among others.

ITT person with horrifyingly terrible political beliefs is mad at others for having horrifyingly terrible political beliefs.

Wow, you really DESTROYED me with FACTS and LOGIC by equating me to Nazis. 10/10 as always, Tel.

B-B-But it's perfectly okay to let Nazis threaten, intimidate, and terrorize people so long as they do it LeGaLLy!!1!

Wanting to create another Charlottesville incident is perfectly legal and definitely not incitement to violence or conspiracy to commit murder, obviously.

As we all know, the Nazis actually came to Detroit's Pride Parade with rifles and other weapons to celebrate the hardships and struggles the LGBTQ+ community has had to face historically and still faces every day! They totally wouldn't've caused harm to anyone if the police weren't there to act as security, because we all know the Nazis have the best track record ever when it comes to the LGBTQ+ community!

[Fartsniffage]

Assholes who want to (and have, in plenty of cases) kill(ed) LGBTQ+ people, among others.

Wanting to do something is not a crime. We do not have though police.
And if they commit a crime toss them in jail for life. Or hang them after a fair trial.

Sure it is. Conspiracy is a thing in US law.

[Novus America]

B-B-But it's perfectly okay to let Nazis threaten, intimidate, and terrorize people so long as they do it LeGaLLy!!1!

Wanting to create another Charlottesville incident is perfectly legal and definitely not incitement to violence or conspiracy to commit murder, obviously.

Did they actually agree they planned to commit murder? Then conspiracy. Arrest them.
Not incitement under Brandenburg v Ohio test though.

Or maybe they were just trying to look scary but not actually having the balls to do anything. Which is not a crime.

The police kept them under careful watch, protected the parade, nobody got hurt.
Which is a good thing. Which is why we need large, well trained, well equipped police forces.

[Auze]

Assholes who want to (and have, in plenty of cases) kill(ed) LGBTQ+ people, among others.

Wanting to do something is not a crime. We do not have thought police.
And if they commit a crime toss them in jail for life. Or hang them after a fair trial.

Lethal injection, firing squad, and the electric chair are all still options (depending on where you are in the US), but hanging isn't.

[Saiwania]

Saiwania is a self admitted NEET who does little more than watch anime and post random shit online. He's not a threat to anything.

I'm down, but not completely out yet. I have a few strategies to try, but all of it might fail. Hitler is said to have been a NEET by 1910s standards for a short time. I have some hope that I can find something big. Hitler became a millionaire overnight primarily from his participation in the Beer Hall Putsch and subsequent notoreity in news media of the day, along with the publication of Mein Kampf soon afterwards, a ton of people wound up buying his book, before it was ever state sanctioned and issued.

[Fartsniffage]

Wanting to create another Charlottesville incident is perfectly legal and definitely not incitement to violence or conspiracy to commit murder, obviously.

Did they actually agree they planned to commit murder? Then conspiracy. Arrest them.
Not incitement under Brandenburg v Ohio test though.

Or maybe they were just trying to look scary but not actually having the balls to do anything. Which is not a crime.

The police kept them under careful watch, protected the parade, nobody got hurt.
Which is a good thing. Which is why we need large, well trained, well equipped police forces.

Lol.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

It's curious really...
Would you feel extremely uncomfortable if a band of armed thugs with assault rifles made camp outside your house, knowing that their only objective is to have you killed? I would.

I don't think anyone is saying they wouldn't.

What is the purpose of these bands of armed thugs to show up at Detroit Pride with rifles then? Could they have protested the event without coming armed to the teeth and looking to shoot things up? Should the state endeavour for the sake of every citizen under its protection to prevent bands of armed thugs from intimidating other citizens?

[The New California Republic]

Saiwania is a self admitted NEET who does little more than watch anime and post random shit online. He's not a threat to anything.

I'm down, but not completely out yet. I have a few strategies to try, but all of it might fail. Hitler is said to have been a NEET by 1910s standards for a short time. I have some hope that I can find something big. Hitler became a millionaire overnight primarily from his participation in the Beer Hall Putsch and subsequent notoreity in news media of the day, along with the publication of Mein Kampf soon afterwards, a ton of people wound up buying his book.

Oh dear.

[Novus America]

Wanting to do something is not a crime. We do not have though police.
And if they commit a crime toss them in jail for life. Or hang them after a fair trial.

Sure it is. Conspiracy is a thing in US law.

Conspiracy requires more than just wanting to do something:
https://www.justia.com/criminal/offense ... onspiracy/