Comcast broke the law 445,000 times to inflate bills

[Telconi]

imagine breaking the law 445,000 times and getting off scot-free

Imagine thinking nine million dollars isn'y valuable at all.

Can I share your fortune?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

So are the ISP workers going to get fired or not?

You do understand that people get fired on situations other than mass layoffs right? And that the absence of a mass layoff doesn't indicate the absence of employee termination?

Ok... but that's not Title II's fault.

That's no longer a mass layoff, but just singular firings over months or years unrelated to Title II.

Fireings that would be then replaced by new staff.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

imagine breaking the law 445,000 times and getting off scot-free

Imagine thinking nine million dollars isn'y valuable at all.

Can I share your fortune?

9 million is nothing to Comcast.

[Telconi]

You do understand that people get fired on situations other than mass layoffs right? And that the absence of a mass layoff doesn't indicate the absence of employee termination?

Ok... but that's not Title II's fault.

That's no longer a mass layoff, but just singular firings over months or years unrelated to Title II.

Fireings that would be then replaced by new staff.

Or, you know, related to it...

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Ok... but that's not Title II's fault.

That's no longer a mass layoff, but just singular firings over months or years unrelated to Title II.

Fireings that would be then replaced by new staff.

Or, you know, related to it...

Incredibly profitable thing exists, a new law regulating that incredibly profitable thing is there to prevent corpations from harming consumers, it's in for years and hasn't slowed down the profitably of zed incredibly profitable thing, but beacuse reasons some staff will be fired. Somehow. Somehow it's related to that regulation on that incredibly profitable thing despite demand for the incredibly profitable thing only increasing. Despite that regulation existing for years.

[Telconi]

Or, you know, related to it...

Incredibly profitable thing exists, a new law regulating that incredibly profitable thing is there to prevent corpations from harming consumers, it's in for years and hasn't slowed down the profitably of zed incredibly profitable thing, but beacuse reasons some staff will be fired. Somehow. Somehow it's related to that regulation on that incredibly profitable thing despite demand for the incredibly profitable thing only increasing. Despite that regulation existing for years.

Yes.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Incredibly profitable thing exists, a new law regulating that incredibly profitable thing is there to prevent corpations from harming consumers, it's in for years and hasn't slowed down the profitably of zed incredibly profitable thing, but beacuse reasons some staff will be fired. Somehow. Somehow it's related to that regulation on that incredibly profitable thing despite demand for the incredibly profitable thing only increasing. Despite that regulation existing for years.

Yes.

That doesn't make any sense.

There is no reason to fire the staff over this regulation.

[Telconi]

Yes.

That doesn't make any sense.

There is no reason to fire the staff over this regulation.

And you know this from personal experience?

[Fartsniffage]

imagine breaking the law 445,000 times and getting off scot-free

Imagine thinking nine million dollars isn'y valuable at all.

Can I share your fortune?

20 bucks a crime. Imagine if that was all you had to pay for a speeding ticket.

[Ethel mermania]

Blame the state of Washington. It was a state AG who prosecuted them, It was a state consumer law they violated. The state legisature could have made the fines heavier. This isnt a federal issue.

Yes.

But what is a federal issue is the fact that Ajji Pai has given more power to ISP's like Comcast to fuck over people legally.

It's a state consumer fraud issue, nothing the feds are doing or not doing would change that. The FCC has nothing to do with this. It's not a federal issue.You are a one trick pony on all these comm. issues, and that trick is nothing more than Orange Man Bad.

You want to do something constructive, pass state laws that deny the right to franchise to companies who repeatedly violate state consumer protection laws. Pass laws holding corporate offices personally liable for widespread consumer fraud. Comcast would straighten right up if their cash cow were threatened.

[Fartsniffage]

Yes.

But what is a federal issue is the fact that Ajji Pai has given more power to ISP's like Comcast to fuck over people legally.

It's a state consumer fraud issue, nothing the feds are doing or not doing would change that. The FCC has nothing to do with this. It's not a federal issue.You are a one trick pony on all these comm. issues, and that trick is nothing more than Orange Man Bad.

You want to do something constructive, pass state laws that deny the right to franchise to companies who repeatedly violate state consumer protection laws. Pass laws holding corporate offices personally liable for widespread consumer fraud. Comcast would straighten right up if their cash cow were threatened.

There isn't a federal law against this kind of fraud?

[Telconi]

Yes.

But what is a federal issue is the fact that Ajji Pai has given more power to ISP's like Comcast to fuck over people legally.

It's a state consumer fraud issue, nothing the feds are doing or not doing would change that. The FCC has nothing to do with this. It's not a federal issue.You are a one trick pony on all these comm. issues, and that trick is nothing more than Orange Man Bad.

You want to do something constructive, pass state laws that deny the right to franchise to companies who repeatedly violate state consumer protection laws. Pass laws holding corporate offices personally liable for widespread consumer fraud. Comcast would straighten right up if their cash cow were threatened.

It's almost like Derp doesn't care and this is just his ticket to another thread about how mean old Ajot Pai is permitting his My Little Pony fan art to be throttled.

[Saiwania]

20 bucks a crime. Imagine if that was all you had to pay for a speeding ticket.

The state government probably wants to financially hurt Comcast for trickery but doesn't want to bankrupt or cripple that company. It'd do no one any good if Comcast goes away where there are no other ISPs to fill any vacuum. Internet infrastructure is expensive to set up and roll out, so a company or government entity with deep pockets is required for people to be able to get a decent internet connection in most cases. Unless where they live is already heavily urban.

[Aidonaia]

The state government probably wants to financially hurt Comcast for trickery but doesn't want to bankrupt or cripple that company. It'd do no one any good if Comcast goes away where there are no other ISPs to fill any vacuum.

There are plenty of other ISPs to fill the vacuum. Hell, they could simply be bought out if there’s no one in the company to replace those responsible. Or fill it with fresh places. But excuse making is just protecting the privileged. In this case that privileged was enforced. They were let off with a fine when they should have been removed from their positions.

[Ethel mermania]

It's a state consumer fraud issue, nothing the feds are doing or not doing would change that. The FCC has nothing to do with this. It's not a federal issue.You are a one trick pony on all these comm. issues, and that trick is nothing more than Orange Man Bad.

You want to do something constructive, pass state laws that deny the right to franchise to companies who repeatedly violate state consumer protection laws. Pass laws holding corporate offices personally liable for widespread consumer fraud. Comcast would straighten right up if their cash cow were threatened.

There isn't a federal law against this kind of fraud?

Not when it happens within a state.

State / federal jurisdictions are weird.

If I murder someone in my state. I am prosecuted by state prosecutors according to state law not federal ones. If my kill someone because of their race, I can be prosecuted under federal civil rights law, but not for the murder per se, but the denial of my victims rights.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Yes.

But what is a federal issue is the fact that Ajji Pai has given more power to ISP's like Comcast to fuck over people legally.

It's a state consumer fraud issue, nothing the feds are doing or not doing would change that. The FCC has nothing to do with this. It's not a federal issue.You are a one trick pony on all these comm. issues, and that trick is nothing more than Orange Man Bad.

You want to do something constructive, pass state laws that deny the right to franchise to companies who repeatedly violate state consumer protection laws. Pass laws holding corporate offices personally liable for widespread consumer fraud. Comcast would straighten right up if their cash cow were threatened.

Are you actually reading what I'm posting?

The FCC had a law that prevents companies from not treating all data as equal. Trump's administration came in, appointed Ajji Pai. Ajji Pai took that law away.

Now they can choose to not treat all data as equal, meaning downgrading customers internet speeds to other sites to artificially give there own sites what would be a speed boost.


They would have the motive to do exactly that, beacuse ISP's are greedy. Here is a case of an ISP being greedy 445,000 times. Thus proving ISP's are greedy.


In no way is this just an 'Orange Man Bad' criticism.

That doesn't make any sense.

There is no reason to fire the staff over this regulation.

And you know this from personal experience?

I know this from the fact that it would be really illogically stupid to fire anyone over this.

You would be firing people for no reason whatsoever. The demand for internet exists, the job for these people still exists Title II or no.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

It's a state consumer fraud issue, nothing the feds are doing or not doing would change that. The FCC has nothing to do with this. It's not a federal issue.You are a one trick pony on all these comm. issues, and that trick is nothing more than Orange Man Bad.

You want to do something constructive, pass state laws that deny the right to franchise to companies who repeatedly violate state consumer protection laws. Pass laws holding corporate offices personally liable for widespread consumer fraud. Comcast would straighten right up if their cash cow were threatened.

It's almost like Derp doesn't care and this is just his ticket to another thread about how mean old Ajot Pai is permitting his My Little Pony fan art to be throttled.

Ad hominems are still a illogical argument.

Thanks again for proving Kojima right tho.

[Ethel mermania]

It's a state consumer fraud issue, nothing the feds are doing or not doing would change that. The FCC has nothing to do with this. It's not a federal issue.You are a one trick pony on all these comm. issues, and that trick is nothing more than Orange Man Bad.

You want to do something constructive, pass state laws that deny the right to franchise to companies who repeatedly violate state consumer protection laws. Pass laws holding corporate offices personally liable for widespread consumer fraud. Comcast would straighten right up if their cash cow were threatened.

Are you actually reading what I'm posting?

The FCC had a law that prevents companies from not treating all data as equal. Trump's administration came in, appointed Ajji Pai. Ajji Pai took that law away.

Now they can choose to not treat all data as equal, meaning downgrading customers internet speeds to other sites to artificially give there own sites what would be a speed boost.


They would have the motive to do exactly that, beacuse ISP's are greedy. Here is a case of an ISP being greedy 445,000 times. Thus proving ISP's are greedy.


In no way is this just an 'Orange Man Bad' criticism.

And you know this from personal experience?

I know this from the fact that it would be really illogically stupid to fire anyone over this.

You would be firing people for no reason whatsoever. The demand for internet exists, the job for these people still exists Title II or no.

Read?!? you mean like the thread title, or the article referenced in it. Yes I have, and neither have anything to do with orange man bad, which is the topic of the rest of your post.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Are you actually reading what I'm posting?

The FCC had a law that prevents companies from not treating all data as equal. Trump's administration came in, appointed Ajji Pai. Ajji Pai took that law away.

Now they can choose to not treat all data as equal, meaning downgrading customers internet speeds to other sites to artificially give there own sites what would be a speed boost.


They would have the motive to do exactly that, beacuse ISP's are greedy. Here is a case of an ISP being greedy 445,000 times. Thus proving ISP's are greedy.


In no way is this just an 'Orange Man Bad' criticism.




I know this from the fact that it would be really illogically stupid to fire anyone over this.

You would be firing people for no reason whatsoever. The demand for internet exists, the job for these people still exists Title II or no.

Read?!? you mean like the thread title, or the article referenced in it. Yes I have, and neither have anything to do with orange man bad, which is the topic of the rest of your post.

Comcast is an ISP. Comcast is greedy. Comcast broke the law 445,000 times. ISP's now have a legal way to be greedy. Ajit Pai paved that way. Ajit Pai was appointed by Donald Trump.


All these are facts.

[Valrifell]

20 bucks a crime. Imagine if that was all you had to pay for a speeding ticket.

The state government probably wants to financially hurt Comcast for trickery but doesn't want to bankrupt or cripple that company. It'd do no one any good if Comcast goes away where there are no other ISPs to fill any vacuum. Internet infrastructure is expensive to set up and roll out, so a company or government entity with deep pockets is required for people to be able to get a decent internet connection in most cases. Unless where they live is already heavily urban.

ISPs handle a relatively small part of Internet infrastructure. They don't handle datacenters or the physical fiber optics which make up the physical backbone of the Internet, those are handled by other companies, an ISP's job is minuscule in comparison, they let you access the Internet and use the infrastructure built and funded by other people.

More or less it's like if you had a toll at the end of your driveway.

[Ethel mermania]

Read?!? you mean like the thread title, or the article referenced in it. Yes I have, and neither have anything to do with orange man bad, which is the topic of the rest of your post.

Comcast is an ISP. Comcast is greedy. Comcast broke the law 445,000 times. ISP's now have a legal way to be greedy. Ajit Pai paved that way. Ajit Pai was appointed by Donald Trump.


All these are facts.

Not really no. they have been found guilty and are a paying a fine, so exactly how legal was it?

One trick pony.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Read?!? you mean like the thread title, or the article referenced in it. Yes I have, and neither have anything to do with orange man bad, which is the topic of the rest of your post.

Comcast is an ISP. Comcast is greedy. Comcast broke the law 445,000 times. ISP's now have a legal way to be greedy. Ajit Pai paved that way. Ajit Pai was appointed by Donald Trump.


All these are facts.

So it is about Trump. I don’t like the guy, mind you, but focus.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Comcast is an ISP. Comcast is greedy. Comcast broke the law 445,000 times. ISP's now have a legal way to be greedy. Ajit Pai paved that way. Ajit Pai was appointed by Donald Trump.


All these are facts.

Not really no. they have been found guilty and are a paying a fine, so exactly how legal was it?

One trick pony.

The legal way to be greedy is not the way that Comcast used.

I was commenting on the removal of Net Neutrality as the legal way to be greedy. Lamenting that now they can abuse this lack of rules allowing them to hurt the consumer much like they did when they did this.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Comcast is an ISP. Comcast is greedy. Comcast broke the law 445,000 times. ISP's now have a legal way to be greedy. Ajit Pai paved that way. Ajit Pai was appointed by Donald Trump.


All these are facts.

So it is about Trump. I don’t like the guy, mind you, but focus.

Hey look, Comcast broke the law beacuse there greedy.

But with the removal of NN they have a legal way to be greedy.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

So it is about Trump. I don’t like the guy, mind you, but focus.

Hey look, Comcast broke the law beacuse there greedy.

But with the removal of NN they have a legal way to be greedy.

I think you’re missing that people aren’t advocating not doing anything. What they don’t agree with is how Tittle,Title II is being employed. Nor do they approve of Comcast’s behavior.

Note: tittle, Nana? Seriously?