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by Napkizemlja » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:38 am
by Des-Bal » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:41 am
Telconi wrote:
So the individual salespeople were slam selling. Or so just outright forging consent?
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by Vassenor » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:43 am
by Telconi » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:43 am
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:
Comcast sucks, no shit, the relevant part is they have sucked for decades.
Since I know you can read, and I know you can tell dates, one would think one would be aware that most of the violations in the complaint dates to Obama's presidency, yet I see no blame of his FCC here.
Your problem here isn't trump or Obama for that matter. For the most part what cable operator has a license to act where and how they act is a local issue. If municipalities would not renew the cable franchises of bad actors, cable companies would have more incentive not to break the law. Even here Comcast pays their fine and moves on. Restrict their ability to renew and win franchises in the state, they will clean up their act.
You seemed to miss the point.
The point was, ISP's where already being greedy back before they had the power to be even more greedy.
Trump's FCC did indeed give them the power to be more greedy under the idea of trusting the ISP's to not make us pay more for the same service.
That fine btw, was millions less then what the fine should be.
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:48 am
Telconi wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
You seemed to miss the point.
The point was, ISP's where already being greedy back before they had the power to be even more greedy.
Trump's FCC did indeed give them the power to be more greedy under the idea of trusting the ISP's to not make us pay more for the same service.
That fine btw, was millions less then what the fine should be.
Title II really had nothing to do with insurance fraud. Which is essentially what this is.
by Telconi » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:53 am
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Telconi wrote:
Title II really had nothing to do with insurance fraud. Which is essentially what this is.
It didn't, but title II prevented another way of the ISP's from fucking the consumer over.
Now that's gone. The only thing left is trust and hope they won't fuck the consumer over.
In other words, there is nothing preventing them from fucking the consumer over.
by Telconi » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:56 am
Vassenor wrote:But yeah, it will never cease to amaze me just how far some people will go in order to defend blatantly anti-consumer practices like this.
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:57 am
Telconi wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
It didn't, but title II prevented another way of the ISP's from fucking the consumer over.
Now that's gone. The only thing left is trust and hope they won't fuck the consumer over.
In other words, there is nothing preventing them from fucking the consumer over.
Debatable.
I mean, they got fined...
by Telconi » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:02 am
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by Des-Bal » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:23 am
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:The attorneys wanted $171 million.
They were fined $9 million.
They worked down the fine from $171 million to $9 million.
$9 million for them is chump change.
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
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Mindset: Logos
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:27 am
Telconi wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:The attorneys wanted $171 million.
They were fined $9 million.
They worked down the fine from $171 million to $9 million.
$9 million for them is chump change.
Yeah, but I doubt Concast is going to continue business practices that cost them money. It may not be a ton, but they still would rather not.
by Telconi » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:31 am
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:48 am
by The Black Forrest » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:53 am
Telconi wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
It didn't, but title II prevented another way of the ISP's from fucking the consumer over.
Now that's gone. The only thing left is trust and hope they won't fuck the consumer over.
In other words, there is nothing preventing them from fucking the consumer over.
Debatable.
I mean, they got fined...
by Petrolheadia » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:55 am
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Telconi wrote:
Perhaps, I just think this is more your ideological crusade against ISPs P-ing their IS.
ISP's have shown that they are not trustworthy. Letting them have the ability to not treat data as equal when they have shown they are willing to do anything for extra money is a bad idea.
Yet it is a bad idea that the Trump administration is pursuing.
by The Black Forrest » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:03 pm
Des-Bal wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:The attorneys wanted $171 million.
They were fined $9 million.
They worked down the fine from $171 million to $9 million.
$9 million for them is chump change.
Do you know what happens when you go to court for doing something that a court just told you that you couldn't do? A judge hands you your testicles.
by Ethel mermania » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:11 pm
by Des-Bal » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:21 pm
The Black Forrest wrote:
Hmmm. I am not so sure. Comcrap was happy with the ruling.
The problem with what you describe; somebody else has to have the time and resources to sue them when they do it again.
They will as companies only learn when you really sock it to them money wise.
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
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Mindset: Logos
by Telconi » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:35 pm
Aidonaia wrote:The people responsible should be replaced, not merely fined.
by The Black Forrest » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:39 pm
by Telconi » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:46 pm
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