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Postby Napkizemlja » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:38 am

AT&T just happy they ain't the bad guy in this story for once.
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Postby Des-Bal » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:41 am

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So the individual salespeople were slam selling. Or so just outright forging consent?


I mean you're talking about hundreds of thousands of cases they did a whole lot of shit. They both signed people up without their knowledge or consent and forced people to sign up.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:43 am

But yeah, it will never cease to amaze me just how far some people will go in order to defend blatantly anti-consumer practices like this.
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Postby Telconi » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:43 am

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Comcast sucks, no shit, the relevant part is they have sucked for decades.

Since I know you can read, and I know you can tell dates, one would think one would be aware that most of the violations in the complaint dates to Obama's presidency, yet I see no blame of his FCC here.

Your problem here isn't trump or Obama for that matter. For the most part what cable operator has a license to act where and how they act is a local issue. If municipalities would not renew the cable franchises of bad actors, cable companies would have more incentive not to break the law. Even here Comcast pays their fine and moves on. Restrict their ability to renew and win franchises in the state, they will clean up their act.



You seemed to miss the point.

The point was, ISP's where already being greedy back before they had the power to be even more greedy.

Trump's FCC did indeed give them the power to be more greedy under the idea of trusting the ISP's to not make us pay more for the same service.

That fine btw, was millions less then what the fine should be.


Title II really had nothing to do with insurance fraud. Which is essentially what this is.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:48 am

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:

You seemed to miss the point.

The point was, ISP's where already being greedy back before they had the power to be even more greedy.

Trump's FCC did indeed give them the power to be more greedy under the idea of trusting the ISP's to not make us pay more for the same service.

That fine btw, was millions less then what the fine should be.


Title II really had nothing to do with insurance fraud. Which is essentially what this is.



It didn't, but title II prevented another way of the ISP's from fucking the consumer over.

Now that's gone. The only thing left is trust and hope they won't fuck the consumer over.

In other words, there is nothing preventing them from fucking the consumer over.

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Postby Telconi » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:53 am

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Title II really had nothing to do with insurance fraud. Which is essentially what this is.



It didn't, but title II prevented another way of the ISP's from fucking the consumer over.

Now that's gone. The only thing left is trust and hope they won't fuck the consumer over.

In other words, there is nothing preventing them from fucking the consumer over.


Debatable.

I mean, they got fined...
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Postby Telconi » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:56 am

Vassenor wrote:But yeah, it will never cease to amaze me just how far some people will go in order to defend blatantly anti-consumer practices like this.


Who? I mean literally zero people have done that.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:57 am

Telconi wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:

It didn't, but title II prevented another way of the ISP's from fucking the consumer over.

Now that's gone. The only thing left is trust and hope they won't fuck the consumer over.

In other words, there is nothing preventing them from fucking the consumer over.


Debatable.

I mean, they got fined...

The attorneys wanted $171 million.

They were fined $9 million.

They worked down the fine from $171 million to $9 million.

$9 million for them is chump change.

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Postby Telconi » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:02 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Debatable.

I mean, they got fined...

The attorneys wanted $171 million.

They were fined $9 million.

They worked down the fine from $171 million to $9 million.

$9 million for them is chump change.


Yeah, but I doubt Concast is going to continue business practices that cost them money. It may not be a ton, but they still would rather not.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:16 am

I'm not surprised.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:20 am

If Comcast has been found to be breaking the law that blatantly, hand it its ass.
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Postby Des-Bal » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:23 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:The attorneys wanted $171 million.

They were fined $9 million.

They worked down the fine from $171 million to $9 million.

$9 million for them is chump change.


Do you know what happens when you go to court for doing something that a court just told you that you couldn't do? A judge hands you your testicles.
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Postby Dresderstan » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:26 am

Oh look, Comcast being absolute shit, I had no idea /s

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:27 am

Telconi wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:The attorneys wanted $171 million.

They were fined $9 million.

They worked down the fine from $171 million to $9 million.

$9 million for them is chump change.


Yeah, but I doubt Concast is going to continue business practices that cost them money. It may not be a ton, but they still would rather not.


They will just find another way to fuck consumers over.

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Postby Telconi » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:31 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
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Yeah, but I doubt Concast is going to continue business practices that cost them money. It may not be a ton, but they still would rather not.


They will just find another way to fuck consumers over.


Perhaps, I just think this is more your ideological crusade against ISPs P-ing their IS.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:48 am

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They will just find another way to fuck consumers over.


Perhaps, I just think this is more your ideological crusade against ISPs P-ing their IS.



ISP's have shown that they are not trustworthy. Letting them have the ability to not treat data as equal when they have shown they are willing to do anything for extra money is a bad idea.

Yet it is a bad idea that the Trump administration is pursuing.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:53 am

Telconi wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:

It didn't, but title II prevented another way of the ISP's from fucking the consumer over.

Now that's gone. The only thing left is trust and hope they won't fuck the consumer over.

In other words, there is nothing preventing them from fucking the consumer over.


Debatable.

I mean, they got fined...


A slap on the wrist but hey.....
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Postby Petrolheadia » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:55 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Perhaps, I just think this is more your ideological crusade against ISPs P-ing their IS.



ISP's have shown that they are not trustworthy. Letting them have the ability to not treat data as equal when they have shown they are willing to do anything for extra money is a bad idea.

Yet it is a bad idea that the Trump administration is pursuing.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:03 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:The attorneys wanted $171 million.

They were fined $9 million.

They worked down the fine from $171 million to $9 million.

$9 million for them is chump change.


Do you know what happens when you go to court for doing something that a court just told you that you couldn't do? A judge hands you your testicles.


Hmmm. I am not so sure. Comcrap was happy with the ruling.

The problem with what you describe; somebody else has to have the time and resources to sue them when they do it again.

They will as companies only learn when you really sock it to them money wise.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:11 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Debatable.

I mean, they got fined...

The attorneys wanted $171 million.

They were fined $9 million.

They worked down the fine from $171 million to $9 million.

$9 million for them is chump change.

Blame the state of Washington. It was a state AG who prosecuted them, It was a state consumer law they violated. The state legisature could have made the fines heavier. This isnt a federal issue.
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Postby Des-Bal » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:21 pm

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Hmmm. I am not so sure. Comcrap was happy with the ruling.

The problem with what you describe; somebody else has to have the time and resources to sue them when they do it again.

They will as companies only learn when you really sock it to them money wise.


Yeah they were because they got off cheap. You don't get to do that twice. If you flaut a ruling you get your ass nailed to the wall.

People will FIND the time and resources, this is a previously settled dispute. The case makes itself, the court already ruled they can't do this so they 100% knew this was happening and 100% knew that it shouldn't be- they have no defense and it's going to be a huge payday for somebody if they keep fucking around.
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Postby Aidonaia » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:21 pm

The people responsible should be replaced, not merely fined.

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Postby Telconi » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:35 pm

Aidonaia wrote:The people responsible should be replaced, not merely fined.


Company responsibility for the fine, people may very well lose their jobs over this.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:39 pm

Telconi wrote:
Aidonaia wrote:The people responsible should be replaced, not merely fined.


Company responsibility for the fine, people may very well lose their jobs over this.


Welllll not the ones who should lose their jobs.
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Postby Telconi » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:46 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Company responsibility for the fine, people may very well lose their jobs over this.


Welllll not the ones who should lose their jobs.


I would imagine we think different people should lose their jobs.
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