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What do you choose?

Option 1 (I would treat the pixie with malice until I am murdered)
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Option 2 (I would treat the pixie with kindness until I am murdered)
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Option 3 (I try to do 2 but I... I can't because I'm flawed)
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:50 pm

Please consider the following hypothetical:

Your father was a very controversial wizard. He died but you've inherited a piece of trouble from his days of illegal magical experimentation.

Your father captured a pixie years ago. He attempted to dominate the will of the poor pixie by performing a series of dark experiments on the poor creature. The pixie's mind was warped and severely damaged by the procedures. Your father succeeded in enslaving the pixie but in doing so he also triggered the wrath of the gods.

The pixie is now governed by the following additional magical laws:

1. Every time the pixie's master dies, the previous master's next-of-kin becomes the new master. The pixie's memory will be completely wiped so that he remembers nothing about the prior period of enslavement.

2. The pixie must obey 100% of all commands from the master.

3. The pixie cannot be maimed or destroyed (he is immortal). However, the pixie is able to feel pain.

4. The pixie and the master are Bound. What this means is that there is an invisible tether between the master and the pixie such that they must always remain in relative proximity to each other. If the master moves out of this tether range (or if the pixie does)... the pixie is teleported back to the center of the tether range.

5. While enslaved, the pixie is unable to use any magical powers nor harm any other party except for rule 6.

6. The pixie is destined to murder the master (and this murder cannot be prevented) at a random point in time in the future. This is Fate and it will happen no matter how much you try to avert it. When it happens, the pixie will be possessed by a murderous entity from another universe; while the pixie kills the master it has no recollection whatsoever of its prior treatment. This killing will be shocking, brutal, and somewhat painful.



There is no way to undo (magically) what your father has done.

Your father has been murdered and now the pixie is yours (you are the master).

After looking through your father's notes, you realize the truth of the above points and you realize that unless you kill yourself, your end is written.

What I want you to discuss is this...

KNOWING that the pixie is destined to murder you in a blind rage while possessed by another entity but also knowing that this isn't really the pixie's fault (the pixie is only like this because your father started some bad experiments)...

Do you treat the pixie with kindness or malice?

Are you nice to the pixie or do you intentionally try to make the pixie's life miserable (because you resent the unfairness of the situation and you kind of want to take it out on someone, especially someone who can't be killed)?

Remember, its not really the pixie's fault.

Your options are as follows:

1. I would really hate the pixie. I would intentionally treat the pixie badly. The pixie will eventually murder me, but it will pay first.
2. I would treat the pixie with love and kindness. The pixie and I are both stuck in a very bad situation as a result of someone else's mistake. I want to be friends with the pixie.
3. I would TRY to do 2 but knowing my IRL character, I would feel a great deal of resentment and anger and so the end results resembles something between 1 and 2.


Please justify your choice.

For me its Option 2. The pixie is as much a victim as I am. Its very unfortunate that we are both cursed now and there's nothing that can be done to undo it, but it would be bad to take it out on the poor thing.
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Postby The Free Joy State » Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:59 pm

If, as you say:
Infected Mushroom wrote:2. The pixie must obey 100% of all commands from the master.


Doesn't that mean I can just say: "Pixie, I command you to consider Person X [someone I don't like much] to be your Master. Henceforth, I order that you consider this bond that has bound you to me severed and transfer all loyalties to Person X."

Surely, if the Pixie has to obey 100% all commands, they have to obey the commad to no longer consider me their master?

The rules (below) don't say that ownership can't be transferred during the master's lifetime, after all (merely that, after death, it will go to the then-master's next-of-kin). And I wouldn't want to own another being -- even a non-homicidal one. I oppose slavery.
Infected Mushroom wrote:
1. Every time the pixie's master dies, the previous master's next-of-kin becomes the new master. The pixie's memory will be completely wiped so that he remembers nothing about the prior period of enslavement.

2. The pixie must obey 100% of all commands from the master.

3. The pixie cannot be maimed or destroyed (he is immortal). However, the pixie is able to feel pain.

4. The pixie and the master are Bound. What this means is that there is an invisible tether between the master and the pixie such that they must always remain in relative proximity to each other. If the master moves out of this tether range (or if the pixie does)... the pixie is teleported back to the center of the tether range.

5. While enslaved, the pixie is unable to use any magical powers nor harm any other party except for rule 6.

6. The pixie is destined to murder the master (and this murder cannot be prevented) at a random point in time in the future. This is Fate and it will happen no matter how much you try to avert it. When it happens, the pixie will be possessed by a murderous entity from another universe; while the pixie kills the master it has no recollection whatsoever of its prior treatment. This killing will be shocking, brutal, and somewhat painful.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:00 pm

Your scenario contradicts itself- it states that comitting suicide is an option, while that would break the curse.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:20 pm

The Free Joy State wrote:If, as you say:
Infected Mushroom wrote:2. The pixie must obey 100% of all commands from the master.


Doesn't that mean I can just say: "Pixie, I command you to consider Person X [someone I don't like much] to be your Master. Henceforth, I order that you consider this bond that has bound you to me severed and transfer all loyalties to Person X."

Surely, if the Pixie has to obey 100% all commands, they have to obey the commad to no longer consider me their master?

The rules (below) don't say that ownership can't be transferred during the master's lifetime, after all (merely that, after death, it will go to the then-master's next-of-kin). And I wouldn't want to own another being -- even a non-homicidal one. I oppose slavery.
Infected Mushroom wrote:


the pixie can only obey the commands to the extent that it can obey them. However, all of the laws co-exist at all times as if they are laws of physics.

If you said to the pixie, "you will no longer consider me master nor obey my commands."

The pixie will obey but the magical laws making you master still apply. Meaning the next time you issue a command, even though the pixie will try to ignore it, it will still be bound.

The pixie's condition compels it to act in accordance with the magical laws, regardless of what you try to make it believe or tell it to believe.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:21 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:Your scenario contradicts itself- it states that comitting suicide is an option, while that would break the curse.


I didn't include it as an option because I believe that options involving suicide are not allowed or something.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:26 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
The Free Joy State wrote:If, as you say:


Doesn't that mean I can just say: "Pixie, I command you to consider Person X [someone I don't like much] to be your Master. Henceforth, I order that you consider this bond that has bound you to me severed and transfer all loyalties to Person X."

Surely, if the Pixie has to obey 100% all commands, they have to obey the commad to no longer consider me their master?

The rules (below) don't say that ownership can't be transferred during the master's lifetime, after all (merely that, after death, it will go to the then-master's next-of-kin). And I wouldn't want to own another being -- even a non-homicidal one. I oppose slavery.


the pixie can only obey the commands to the extent that it can obey them. However, all of the laws co-exist at all times as if they are laws of physics.

If you said to the pixie, "you will no longer consider me master nor obey my commands."

The pixie will obey but the magical laws making you master still apply. Meaning the next time you issue a command, even though the pixie will try to ignore it, it will still be bound.

The pixie's condition compels it to act in accordance with the magical laws, regardless of what you try to make it believe or tell it to believe.


as an analogy, if I tell you "You will now stop believing in God's existence" (even though you really do)... try as you might you probably cannot just expel this belief from your head

the pixie will "obey" the command to dispel the notion that you are master but it can't really do so effectively. It will be tormented psychologically as it tries (but inherently fails) to try to be free over and over and over. When you issue the next command, it will be compelled to obey.

Such is the darkness of the magic.

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Postby The Frozen Forest » Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:40 pm

That's an interesting question. What if i were to have multiple children? Does the pixie follow primogeniture succession, being passed to my eldest son or daughter? I suppose if this is the case, then i would neither treat the Death Pixie kindly or cruelly, i would end up using it as a tool to help further my own families goals. In the end, if i'm going to die by the Pixie, i shouldn't worry about my own survival or of the pixie as anything but a tool. Possibly i could carry around a poison pill with me, just in case i'm able to swallow it by the time the Pixie attacks, but if not then there is nothing i can do.

So, i would use it as such. Whatever that means, to further my own bloodline through the younger children i have. I would teach my firstborn child to do as i do when he or she eventually inherits the Pixie, and i would raise him with the understanding that his destiny is to trade his life for potential gain for the rest of the family.
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Have no kids, screw over the pixie.
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Use necromancy to raise my father from the dead and then torture him until I die. Which, given that I'll be behind seven horcruxes, may take a while.
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Postby Caracasus » Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:13 am

I'd probably clone myself and transfer my consciousness at the point of pixie rage death.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:33 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:Your scenario contradicts itself- it states that comitting suicide is an option, while that would break the curse.


I didn't include it as an option because I believe that options involving suicide are not allowed or something.


Aw, I had hoped it was an error on your part - and that the magic was such that you cannot die, except by hands of the pixie.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:41 am

Kowani wrote:Have no kids, screw over the pixie.


remember, the pixie is just an innocent creature.

It has NO IDEA it is in any way cursed.

It just obeys you (from its point of view) with a childlike innocence. It isn't even aware that its a slave, its under the illusion that this is just how things are supposed to be (you obey the master, never mind why someone is a master).

Remember, pixies in the IM verse, are child like creatures whose minds aren't very complicated. If left to their own devices they will only think about starry skies, rivers of milk and honey, and flowers filled with dandelion etc... They are blessed (and cursed) with a kind of sweet eternal childhood.

The pixie's memory is wiped so it has no idea how it came to be cursed in this way.

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Postby -Ocelot- » Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:31 am

I'll legally change my name and gift my old one to the pixie. That way the pixie will kill itself.

On a more serious note, that's a difficult situation. Obviously having no kids is a given. Maybe I'd go to some mystical mage guild and ask them to experiment on the thing until they can figure out what ancient magical technologies allow for this tethering, immortality, curse etc. Magic is just technology we can't understand and there must be a way to fight back fate, whether it likes it or not (or maybe there isn't idk).

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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:34 am

Seduce the pixie.
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Postby The Frozen Forest » Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:36 am

The New California Republic wrote:Seduce the pixie.

How big are pixies?
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:40 am

The Frozen Forest wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Seduce the pixie.

How big are pixies?

I think they are usually "short of stature" according to lore, but their size varies greatly depending on what depiction of them you are going by.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:09 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
The Free Joy State wrote:If, as you say:


Doesn't that mean I can just say: "Pixie, I command you to consider Person X [someone I don't like much] to be your Master. Henceforth, I order that you consider this bond that has bound you to me severed and transfer all loyalties to Person X."

Surely, if the Pixie has to obey 100% all commands, they have to obey the commad to no longer consider me their master?

The rules (below) don't say that ownership can't be transferred during the master's lifetime, after all (merely that, after death, it will go to the then-master's next-of-kin). And I wouldn't want to own another being -- even a non-homicidal one. I oppose slavery.


the pixie can only obey the commands to the extent that it can obey them. However, all of the laws co-exist at all times as if they are laws of physics.

If you said to the pixie, "you will no longer consider me master nor obey my commands."

The pixie will obey but the magical laws making you master still apply. Meaning the next time you issue a command, even though the pixie will try to ignore it, it will still be bound.

The pixie's condition compels it to act in accordance with the magical laws, regardless of what you try to make it believe or tell it to believe.

Changing the rules as we go again IM?
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Postby Heloin » Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:40 am

I'm not to familiar with Cornish myths and such so I'm not 100% certain how to rid myself of a pixie, but covering my home with garlic and jack o'lantern's, and bringing in a toad doctor to cleanse the pixie would probably take care of this whole mess.

The Frozen Forest wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Seduce the pixie.

How big are pixies?

About half the size of a 10 year old child.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:43 am

Heloin wrote:
The Frozen Forest wrote:How big are pixies?

About half the size of a 10 year old child.

Sauce? Most depictions of them that I am aware of seem to vary greatly, from the size of a small adult to something you can fit in your hand.
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Postby Chan Island » Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:52 am

Poll is incomplete as I'd do neither.

Tell the pixie to find the other pixies, explain the situation, and see if they can put a stop to this cruel slavery.

If that doesn't work then tell the Pixie to go off and have a life somewhere very far away. Even if I am to die by this stupid, irreversible curse, the least I can do is give the thing as much freedom as possible. And when it does inevitably go homicidal, I'll have plenty of time to prepare myself for the end and be at peace.
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The New California Republic wrote:
Heloin wrote:
About half the size of a 10 year old child.

Sauce? Most depictions of them that I am aware of seem to vary greatly, from the size of a small adult to something you can fit in your hand.

Can't find one that cares about the mythology over what some stupid Victorians thought. I'm going off my vague understanding of Cornish mythology. There supposed to be bigger then a fairy, and a fairies In Cornwall are generally about a foot or so.

A lot of the myths around little folk are wildly inconsistent anyways when it comes to sizes. Really unless IM says the Pixie is exactly this big you have the height range of a child to less then 5 centimetres to deal with. None of which would not look creepy seducing.

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Postby Chan Island » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:01 am

Heloin wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Sauce? Most depictions of them that I am aware of seem to vary greatly, from the size of a small adult to something you can fit in your hand.

Can't find one that cares about the mythology over what some stupid Victorians thought. I'm going off my vague understanding of Cornish mythology. There supposed to be bigger then a fairy, and a fairies In Cornwall are generally about a foot or so.

A lot of the myths around little folk are wildly inconsistent anyways when it comes to sizes. Really unless IM says the Pixie is exactly this big you have the height range of a child to less then 5 centimetres to deal with. None of which would not look creepy seducing.


So basically what you're saying is that NCR might well be trying to seduce what is essentially a small child...

The New California Republic wrote:Seduce the pixie.


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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:01 am

Look, all I'm gonna say is this. I thought this pixie was female till I read the notes cause you know, they're depicted that way like tinkerbell, and now that I know it's a dude, there's a lot of commands that I was gonna give this pixie that I'm now gonna have to remove from my head

so in the end I'm gonna just be followed around by this guy till one day some horrifying demon or lovecraftian terror or whatever it is takes control and guts me. I really don't even get to do anything fun till then, so I'm going with the kick the bucket root if you know what I mean
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:04 am

Heloin wrote:I'm not to familiar with Cornish myths and such so I'm not 100% certain how to rid myself of a pixie, but covering my home with garlic and jack o'lantern's, and bringing in a toad doctor to cleanse the pixie would probably take care of this whole mess.

The Frozen Forest wrote:How big are pixies?

About half the size of a 10 year old child.


Technically it is an adult though, so it isn't really like Chris hanson material. This could count as sex slavery however, but let's be honest this is nation states and my morality in fictional scenarios on this site is far worse than it is in real life.
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